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Discussion: Myths about Racism and Privilege
Member Since: 9/18/2011
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You finally threaded this!
Yes, a lot of it is TRUE too.
In addition, I'll link yall to a blog I created stating why BET is NOT racist
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Member Since: 6/2/2012
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Amazing. 
A black people can be racist towards a white person, but white people aren't discriminated in society and have the privileges. End of discussion.
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
Posts: 3,366
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There is no excuse for yall's ignorance because the receipts get printed out everyday on a daily a simple google search or visit to the library can help some of you.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
ITS TRUE 
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here, but I JUST posted this. Y'all have the whole internet at your disposal. Use it. Please.
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You must be living in a different world to me then because if you genuinely believe 99% of employers would hire a white man with a criminal record over a black man with a degree then you are delusional 
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Member Since: 11/20/2011
Posts: 3,275
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Originally posted by ImmaSlave4u
It's so pathetic. If they ****ing stopped and realized there's other things that's "oppressing" them like their ****** social skills/awful personalities, they'd realize it's not "oppression" keeping them down.
it's their bad skin and internalized self-loathing.
If somebody doesn't like me or doesn't hire me for a job i don't assume it's because i'm gay, but they automatically jump to the conclusion that it's a racial thing.
Meanwhile these whiny ****ers sit there and make ****** powerpoints about how it was a "black thing" and not a "wow your personality sucks" thing.
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While there are parallels that you can draw among all forms of systemic oppression, discrimination based on race and sexual orientation are not completely analogous. You can hide your sexual orientation. A person of color usually cannot disguise their race.
OP should link to Derailing for Dummies as well, if OP hasn't already, because a good many of the rebuttals included here are listed there. Everything from "you're overly sensitive" to "there's something wrong with you for noticing race." Just the other day on the Lilly Allen thread, someone pointed out the obvious about the portrayal of the black back-up dancers in Allen's new video, and someone had the gaul to insinuate that said commenter was racist for pointing out that the dancers were black.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 11,808
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Originally posted by Samuel
I don't believe that for a second and neither does anyone else |
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Originally posted by Kamil24
A right is something entitled to all human beings. A privilege is not, it is an extra. From what I am aware, I have no extra privileges than anyone else around me.
And I have a really hard time believing the bolded part. Maybe in other parts of North America/US?
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You have a hard time believing such things because you're not on the receiving end of it.
It doesn't affect how you get hired.
It doesn't affect how you get served at a restaurant.
It doesn't affect how you or your children receive an education.
I understand that White people do not live perfect lifestyles and that everyone has problems.
You'd have to be a fool to believe otherwise.
However, White people do benefit from White privilege simply because they are White.
Not all Whites are aware of this, but that doesn't change the facts.
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Member Since: 11/13/2009
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Nice OP
We need multiracial versions of this smiley btw
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Member Since: 4/7/2009
Posts: 34,961
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Originally posted by Kamil24
I have never experienced that where I live.
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Because you're not conscious of it.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
Posts: 17,221
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Originally posted by SebaMonster
Amazing.
white people aren't discriminated in society and have the privileges. End of discussion. |
That, I can agree with. And it's basically what Jennifer was trying to say.
What I don't agree with, however is: - All racist people are white
- People cannot blend other cultures inside their personal lives
- Equality doesn't solve racism
- A black person can be racist towards a white person (). Racism is wrong, no matter which race the victim is .
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
Posts: 3,366
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Originally posted by Samuel
You must be living in a different world to me then because if you genuinely believe 99% of employers would hire a white man with a criminal record over a black man with a degree then you are delusional |
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Is racial discrimination a thing of the past?
Debates about the relevance of discrimination in today's society have been difficult to resolve, in part because of the challenges in identifying, measuring, and documenting its presence or absence in all but extreme cases. Discrimination is rarely something that can be observed explicitly.
To address these issues, I recently conducted a series of experiments investigating employment discrimination. In these experiments, which took place in Milwaukee and New York City, I hired young men to pose as job applicants, assigning them resumes with equal levels of education and experience, and sending them to apply for real entry-level job openings all over the city.
Team members also alternated presenting information about a fictitious criminal record (a drug felony), which they “fessed up to” on the application form. During nearly a year of fieldwork, teams of testers audited hundreds of employers, applying for a wide range of entry level jobs such as waiters, sales assistants, laborers, warehouse workers, couriers, and customer service representatives.
The results of these studies were startling. Among those with no criminal record, white applicants were more than twice as likely to receive a callback relative to equally qualified black applicants. Even more troubling, whites with a felony conviction fared just as well, if not better, than a black applicant with a clean background.
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http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2008/08/0...nces-for-hire/
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Black applicants without criminal records are no more likely to get a job than white applicants just out of prison, according to a Princeton University study of nearly 1,500 private employers in New York City.
The study, “Discrimination in Low Wage Labor Markets,” was conducted by sociology professors Devah Pager and Bruce Western . It is the largest and most comprehensive project of its kind to date.
The study, which investigated discrimination against young male minorities and ex-offenders by employers, also showed:
• Young white high school graduates were about twice as likely to receive positive responses from New York employers as equally qualified black job seekers;
• Ex-offenders face serious barriers to employment; a criminal record reduced positive responses from employers by about 35 percent for white applicants and 57 percent for black applicants.
Even without criminal records, however, black applicants had low rates of positive responses, about the same as the response rate for white applicants with criminal records. Hispanics also faced discrimination by employers, but were preferred relative to blacks.
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Apparently. 
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
Posts: 17,221
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Originally posted by Latch
You have a hard time believing such things because you're not on the receiving end of it.
It doesn't affect how you get hired.
It doesn't affect how you get served at a restaurant.
It doesn't affect how you or your children receive an education.
I understand that White people do not live perfect lifestyles and that everyone has problems.
You'd have to be a fool to believe otherwise.
However, White people do benefit from White privilege simply because they are White.
Not all Whites are aware of this, but that doesn't change the facts.
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Excuse my cheek, but do you have any reciepts, statistics, research etc.?
I'm sorry but you can't be seriously expecting us to believe you without proof.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Samuel
You must be living in a different world to me then because if you genuinely believe 99% of employers would hire a white man with a criminal record over a black man with a degree then you are delusional |
You know what you're right. Guess which world I live in! 
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What I don't agree with, however is:
All racist people are white white supremacy Google it tho
People cannot blend other cultures inside their personal lives ofc they can but to a point obv like don't use it to exploit them duh
A white person with a criminal record is more likely to get a job than a black person with a degree (  ) Google is really useful
Equality doesn't solve racism I already explained this
A black person can be racist towards a white person ( ). Racism is wrong, no matter which race the victim is. ok sure whatever ignore what's been stated like 50 times alreadeh |
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Good. Whites need to stop playing the victim.
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Member Since: 4/24/2011
Posts: 17,221
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
You know what you're right. Guess which world I live in! |
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white supremacy Google it tho
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Hispanics cannot be racists?
Asians cannot be racists?
Arabs cannot be racists?
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
Posts: 37,192
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One academic discipline doesn't get to control the meaning of an entire word.
Racism means one thing in sociology, and something else in different contexts.
It's also INCREDIBLY American-centric to make it "white vs. everyone else." There's massive amounts of racism in Asia between different cultures of Asians. Irish and Italians have been "undesirable" races in America at different points. There's massive wars/genocide committed in Northern Ireland between two different sects of white people.
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Member Since: 1/5/2012
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Originally posted by Latch
I'm sorry if you felt attacked,
I wasn't trying to attack you I just think that gif is really funny.
Seriously, though, which points do you disagree with?
Let's discuss.
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So I started outlining my thoughts on the presentation but it ended being incredibly long, hard to keep up with, and ultimately too much work.
But overall, I disagree with almost all the points and most of my counter-arguments have already been posted in this thread. I also don't feel like being attacked by others and labeled a racist because I have different opinions, so that's that.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/31/2012
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Originally posted by Georges
Hispanics cannot be racists?
Asians cannot be racists?
Arabs cannot be racists?
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They can be prejudiced, sure. But racism is institutionalized FOR THE 51ST TIME. So no.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
Posts: 22,128
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fantastic read, she's very educated on this stuff
but she's wrong that misandry is not a thing and she also towards the end begins to veer towards expecting white people to be sorry for the unearned advantages they have and that's not something i support
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 21,846
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Originally posted by lasersss
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That study is very vague and doesn't even tell us how many men were used in the study, and even then it doesn't say at all that the black men had a degree over the white men which is the example the other member used.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 21,846
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
They can be prejudiced, sure. But racism is institutionalized FOR THE 51ST TIME. So no.
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NO IT'S NOT You can't just decide you want to change the meaning of a word. It doesn't work like that. Prejudice and racism are the SAME thing. Every reliable source agrees
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