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Discussion: Is the BTW era losing momentum?
Member Since: 1/4/2009
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Originally posted by omgitsralph
She's actually doing fine. See, this is the problem here, ATRLers are all about sales and **** and ATRLers believe that's what makes up an era. An era isn't all about sales, it's also about the audiences. The 'Born This Way' era is a perfect example of the saying "Music isn't all about sales, it's about gathering the people together". I wish sometimes ATRL would shut the **** up with the receipts.
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I agree with this. I'm not trying to say that sales don't matter "as long as the music is good" but when you are able to bring your tour to ****ing India, it really says a lot. People there probably don't even buy music and the market doesn't contribute to ww sales, but I would take popularity there over any number ones. same for brazil, indonesia etc.
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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Sadly it kind of is
She needs to release "Bloody Mary" or "Heavy Metal Lover" or "Government Hooker" and I'm sure
it will get back on track
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
Posts: 9,650
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Originally posted by mons†er
Remember radio has really only been focused on Adele. Britney , Bey and Gaga are all on singles 3 and 4. If BTW is dead then so are FF and 4. And also take into account Gaga has sold more than Katy Perry and almost outsold Rihannas latest efforts in about less than half the time. She's doing well however she isn't living up to the overhype.
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Originally posted by fromargentina
BTW era lost its momentum when Judas flopped( Little Monster will say it reached top 10, I know but it flopped anyway)
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For a world that is so ignorant with ignorant people like you, it is such a big deal.
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Member Since: 6/23/2011
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Yes, a little bit. I think it's because of The Edge of Glory and You and I (though the video for You and I has easily become one of my favorite videos of hers). I think the next single will be awesome and spark up some excitement, and then of course, the BTW ball will start.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by mons†er
Remember radio has really only been focused on Adele. Britney , Bey and Gaga are all on singles 3 and 4. If BTW is dead then so are FF and 4. And also take into account Gaga has sold more than Katy Perry and almost outsold Rihannas latest efforts in about less than half the time. She's doing well however she isn't living up to the overhype.
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LOL...no. "I Wanna Go" and "Til The World Ends" were successful radio hits for Britney, and Katy Perry had hits reach over 100M AI. So, I don't see how radio is only focusing on Adele. Beyonce and Gaga are the only ones who truly had average success at radio this era.
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Member Since: 4/21/2011
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Member Since: 8/2/2010
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Originally posted by Honey Eyes
Exactly: a short stadium tour, a break and then come back with funny, dance music.
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and IMO she needs to leave behind the Born this way mentality yes we all get it already it was cute and heartwarming at first but its been drilled and its enough.
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Member Since: 3/18/2011
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So.
I think Judas killed the era, ultimately. The Edge of Glory being rush released confused the public (in the US and Worldwide). The interest between Judas and TEOG was was divided (anyone who said that Judas wasn't played in clubs is delusional). The era was close to being back on track with the Edge of Glory, but then they released You and I a bit too early (imo). You and I was not the best follow-up for the momentum (what bit that was created) that they had worked towards making.
Her next single choice is putting her at another pivotal point of the era. If she chooses wrong (and doesn't follow through with the release with good promo and videos and good press) then this era's success is going to only diminish even further (until they get tour revenue).
She needs to just let TEOG and YAI run their course and die down. So, by the time that November rolls around (and The Greatest Thing is already released, hopefully, and working its way up the charts) she can release (in my opinion the best follow up to YAI) Marry The Night. She can make MTN work at this point. Refreshing single, video, and many promo opportunities + it has a seasonal advantage. It'll also be the first -real- dance song since Judas (and the most radio friendly since Born This Way [or arguably Alejandro]).
So, in short, yes, it has lost momentum; however, it is not quite to the point where momentum cannot be obtained.
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Originally posted by Я×R
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And I bet you took 69 straight (I don't know if you are) hours just to look up/make that. Poor you.
I see why your jealous, some Asian countries do not accept straight up hoes in their countries.
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Member Since: 2/1/2010
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and this bitch NEEDS to take a break too..I don't understand why she doesn't take a break.is she scared or something ? no ONE will ever forget her.she needs to disappear for a year and come back in full force
but I kinda think she will never take a break
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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Originally posted by -Lewymocha-
Gurl.... it's as over as the Goodbye Lullaby era
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No.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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Another problem is that the singles are getting solid numbers and airplay peaks, but it's not enough. They're also having underwhelming longetivity.
Born This Way sold a lot but had a short life on radio. It spent 20 weeks on the Hot 100, so only 14 when it wasn't #1. A six-week #1 should spend more time than that on the Hot 100.
The Edge of Glory only lasted so long because of the airplay. The digital performance was very average.
And then Judas...Yeah.
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Member Since: 1/28/2009
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Since Judas tbh.. but Marry The night can do wonders
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Member Since: 5/27/2010
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Originally posted by Я×R
you know something's wrong when you have to release a new single every two months and promote the hell out of them just to get mediocre success
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But what does it mean when you promote the hell out of your album for a full year, have five #1s to push it, and it still can't break 4m WW even after all that time?
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Member Since: 11/29/2006
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Originally posted by omgitsralph
And I bet you took 69 straight (I don't know if you are) hours just to look up/make that. Poor you.
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You wish I found them in another board where they were comparing the promo of Gaga, Rihanna, Katy, Brit, etc
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Member Since: 2/1/2010
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Originally posted by Я×R
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gurl don't even try
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Member Since: 11/6/2010
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I think sheiebe and bloody mary could still be pretty big hits.
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Kinda .. not really. As soon has she picks a song as a single that the majority of the fans like the hype will be back.
And when she starts touring even more attention will be noticed
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Originally posted by izzy
and this bitch NEEDS to take a break too..I don't understand why she doesn't take a break.is she scared or something ? no ONE will ever forget her.she needs to disappear for a year and come back in full force
but I kinda think she will never take a break
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She's just a workaholic. She's always been like that since her childhood.
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Originally posted by frantic
Since Judas tbh.. but Marry The night can do wonders
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Yes, this song will rebuke all the basic souls.
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