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News: TIME: Amnesty for Immigrants?
Member Since: 3/18/2012
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Originally posted by ReginaPhalange
Immigrants should be stopped at the border and sent packing. As Pauline would say, we're closed
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This.
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Member Since: 12/9/2009
Posts: 13,069
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Race is not a factor in the way you are making it out to be. Most of the poor immigrants just happen to be that race.
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oh man.
Yea this is going nowhere.
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Member Since: 4/10/2011
Posts: 14,331
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Originally posted by ReginaPhalange
Immigrants should be stopped at the border and sent packing. As Pauline would say, we're closed
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Yes.
Imma need Republicans to fight this ********.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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some of you guys are full of crap. you do realize how hard it is to get into the country legally, right? you know how it takes YEARS? and that some people can't SURVIVE THAT LONG? are you really gonna condemn people to having terrible lives for years with little escape or condone sending them back to their old lives once they escape? and it's usually because of xenophobia too, about how they're apparently rapists or drug sellers or something. i don't understand why people have so little empathy
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 19,066
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Originally posted by Newt
oh man.
Yea this is going nowhere.
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If everyone at the south of border was Caucasian, the same issues would still apply, so I don't what your point is?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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There seems to be a discrepancy between the act and people already here in this thread. People entering are breaking the law, and granted if they're caught crossing they should be sent back unless they're asylum seekers. But people already here, who have been here for years, they are part of America and should be afforded representation. They're paying taxes and acting as part of our society. Removing them destroys families and lives since children would be Americans; they should be allowed naturalize because it's what's right, not what's convenient to people hypothetically worried about competing for a job at McDonalds.
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Member Since: 4/10/2011
Posts: 14,331
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Originally posted by accelgors
some of you guys are full of crap. you do realize how hard it is to get into the country legally, right? you know how it takes YEARS? and that some people can't SURVIVE THAT LONG? are you really gonna condemn people to having terrible lives for years with little escape or condone sending them back to their old lives once they escape? and it's usually because of xenophobia too, about how they're apparently rapists or drug sellers or something. i don't understand why people have so little empathy
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It's hard for a reason.
Why should someone who can't even speak the language thats printed on our ballots be allowed to vote
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 16,371
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
If everyone at the south of border was Caucasian, the same issues would still apply, so I don't what your point is?
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The fact that you believe that is bothersome. If 1000 Irish/British women and children were to be deported from Massachusetts or New York there would be outrage, communities would protest and the media would latch onto it. Something would be done or at the very, very least a loud resistance would be heard.
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Member Since: 12/9/2009
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
If everyone at the south of border was Caucasian, the same issues would still apply, so I don't what your point is?
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You are incredibly naive if you truly believe this
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Member Since: 4/10/2011
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Originally posted by Rusty
The fact that you believe that is bothersome. If 1000 Irish/British women and children were to be deported from Massachusetts or New York there would be outrage, communities would protest and the media would latch onto it. Something would be done or at the very, very least a loud resistance would be heard.
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Liberals always wanting to use racism as their main argument point.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by itsAllen
Liberals always wanting to use racism as their main argument point.
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Conservatives always wanting to pretend those bad people just happen to be Mexican/Arab/Communists.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 12,199
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Originally posted by accelgors
some of you guys are full of crap. you do realize how hard it is to get into the country legally, right? you know how it takes YEARS? and that some people can't SURVIVE THAT LONG? are you really gonna condemn people to having terrible lives for years with little escape or condone sending them back to their old lives once they escape? and it's usually because of xenophobia too, about how they're apparently rapists or drug sellers or something. i don't understand why people have so little empathy
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Let's look after our own citizens first before giving compassion to illegals
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by itsAllen
It's hard for a reason.
Why should someone who can't even speak the language thats printed on our ballots be allowed to vote
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ok you're just stupid. that has literally nothing to do with anything. and it's pretty messed up to ignore the opportunity to make people's lives not hell just because you don't want to accept them into the oh-so-elite society of america. it shouldn't be hard.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Rusty
There seems to be a discrepancy between the act and people already here in this thread. People entering are breaking the law, and granted if they're caught crossing they should be sent back unless they're asylum seekers. But people already here, who have been here for years, they are part of America and should be afforded representation. They're paying taxes and acting as part of our society. Removing them destroys families and lives since children would be Americans; they should be allowed naturalize because it's what's right, not what's convenient to people hypothetically worried about competing for a job at McDonalds.
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Why shouldn't we be worried about the guy who needs that McDonald's job? They are paying taxes and contributing too. If anything, they should be the priority. Just b/c you've been here a while, does automatically give you participation rights. The children can leave with their parents, and birthright citizenship needs to end, because children are now being used as anchor babies.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by A Bomb
White ppl commit the majority of these crimes tho.  |
No one ever says anything about those immigrants that are European. It's the Mexicans that get all the negative attention.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by itsAllen
Liberals always wanting to use racism as their main argument point.
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maybe because racism is an important and common problem, and people often are biased in their judgments of people from other countries because of it, which has a lot to do with this issue???
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
If everyone at the south of border was Caucasian, the same issues would still apply, so I don't what your point is?
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i don't remember hearing about an issue when all those white Cubans left Cuba for america
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Why shouldn't we be worried about the guy who needs that McDonald's job? They are paying taxes and contributing too. If anything, they should be the priority. Just b/c you've been here a while, does automatically give you participation rights. The children can leave with their parents, and birthright citizenship needs to end, because children are now being used as anchor babies.
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omg stop.  you have no idea what you're talking about.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Rusty
The fact that you believe that is bothersome. If 1000 Irish/British women and children were to be deported from Massachusetts or New York there would be outrage, communities would protest and the media would latch onto it. Something would be done or at the very, very least a loud resistance would be heard.
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Originally posted by Newt
You are incredibly naive if you truly believe this
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People would be outraged for the South Americans, as well. And plenty people of all races would support the action if those immigrants were illegal.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by Rusty
There seems to be a discrepancy between the act and people already here in this thread. People entering are breaking the law, and granted if they're caught crossing they should be sent back unless they're asylum seekers. But people already here, who have been here for years, they are part of America and should be afforded representation. They're paying taxes and acting as part of our society. Removing them destroys families and lives since children would be Americans; they should be allowed naturalize because it's what's right, not what's convenient to people hypothetically worried about competing for a job at McDonalds.
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Most of the countries these people come from don't afford the same things to American citizens. Why should we? Additionally, they aren't paying taxes because they aren't even on the books. So no SS Tax, no Unemp Tax, no Medicare and no income tax and the list goes on. Why should people who broke the law get special treatment over those people who went through the process the correct way? I don't have a hunt in this game but it seems to me immigration activists and their sympathizers act like these people are entitled when they've already shown a reckless disregard for the laws of the US.They have some nerve bringing their old outdated conservative anti gay ideas over to the US. They need to stay in their own country and work to improve it. Running away doesn't solve anything.
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