BLaCKPoWeR, what voice type do you think Melonie Daniels and Twinkie Clark are?
I think Luke James is a Full-Lyric Tenor or maybe even a Spinto Tenor (but that might be pushing it).
His voice is a bit darker than other tenors in the game (Chris, Bruno, Justin [both of them], Adam Levine)
BLaCKPoWeR, what voice type do you think Melonie Daniels and Twinkie Clark are?
I think Luke James is a Full-Lyric Tenor or maybe even a Spinto Tenor (but that might be pushing it).
His voice is a bit darker than other tenors in the game (Chris, Bruno, Justin [both of them], Adam Levine)
Lol my name is Clark call me Clark Let me tell you that I am not an expert, just someone who reads and talks about this stuff a lot. I may not be able to tell you specifics for sure, but then again, I could because some things are just obvious lol.
Never heard of them, do you have videos?
Luke James is such a great vocalist man. I think he's a full-lyric. Have you heard of that Avery Wilson guy from Vine/the X-Factor? Is it possible to be a leggiero and a full-lyric at the same time? bc
I agree with BLaCKPoWeR that you're a lyric tenor. If you don't mind me asking, what style of singing are you being trained for?
Trained for classical/19th-century style. Self-teaching contemporary. I have to reevaluate my contemporary voice since I'm starting to notice doing half of the things I did in that recording practically gave me a monster head-ache (the higher notes, specifically) and throat irritation (falsetto usage). I only fit where I'm comfortable and the lower register that you hear is my modal voice and I'd rather focus on that than push higher than I need to when I don't need to. Most of the lower notes you hear I can go a full octave lower (other than the E2, that's where I hit my vocal fry area).
Lol my name is Clark call me Clark Let me tell you that I am not an expert, just someone who reads and talks about this stuff a lot. I may not be able to tell you specifics for sure, but then again, I could because some things are just obvious lol.
Never heard of them, do you have videos?
Luke James is such a great vocalist man. I think he's a full-lyric. Have you heard of that Avery Wilson guy from Vine/the X-Factor? Is it possible to be a leggiero and a full-lyric at the same time? bc
I thought I heard of Avery Wilson before and I remember seeing this he did with Stevie Mackey.
I could only DREAM of my voice being that agile cause...
Let me be a flop and up front say I know zero about this stuff, but for Michael since you've listed him as a Leggiero Tenor, what sort of voice does that describe? His lower register went pretty unutilized on his official releases, here's a decent example of it:
His upper is a mix of the adlib OWs! () he does which I've seen written before range from D5 to C#6 and D6, and more soft adlibs like in Blame It On The Boogie, apparently D5. At 3:01 here there's high harmonizing in the background; supposedly this is Michael's highest recorded note, an F#6.
Once again, I have no clue what half of this means
Lol my name is Clark call me Clark Let me tell you that I am not an expert, just someone who reads and talks about this stuff a lot. I may not be able to tell you specifics for sure, but then again, I could because some things are just obvious lol.
Never heard of them, do you have videos?
Luke James is such a great vocalist man. I think he's a full-lyric. Have you heard of that Avery Wilson guy from Vine/the X-Factor? Is it possible to be a leggiero and a full-lyric at the same time? bc
And yes, Luke is incredible. I wanna see him in concert. I haven't heard of Avery Wilson, can you recommend some songs or videos?
As for being both a leggiero and full-lyric, are you saying is voice is agile but darker than typical leggieros?
Trained for classical/19th-century style. Self-teaching contemporary. I have to reevaluate my contemporary voice since I'm starting to notice doing half of the things I did in that recording practically gave me a monster head-ache (the higher notes, specifically) and throat irritation (falsetto usage). I only fit where I'm comfortable and the lower register that you hear is my modal voice and I'd rather focus on that than push higher than I need to when I don't need to. Most of the lower notes you hear I can go a full octave lower (other than the E2, that's where I hit my vocal fry area).
Yea, if you're getting headaches and stuff from doing it, just focus on things in your natural tessitura until you get more into your training.
Let me be a flop and up front say I know zero about this stuff, but for Michael since you've listed him as a Leggiero Tenor, what sort of voice does that describe? His lower register went pretty unutilized on his official releases, here's a decent example of it:
His upper is a mix of the adlib OWs! () he does which I've seen written before range from D5 to C#6 and D6, and more soft adlibs like in Blame It On The Boogie, apparently D5. At 3:01 here there's high harmonizing in the background; supposedly this is Michael's highest recorded note, an F#6.
Once again, I have no clue what half of this means
He sounds like an entirely different person singing down there.
And yes, Luke is incredible. I wanna see him in concert. I haven't heard of Avery Wilson, can you recommend some songs or videos?
As for being both a leggiero and full-lyric, are you saying is voice is agile but darker than typical leggieros?
Not only that, but he has incredible sustaining power - which is why I think he's a FULL-lyric voice.
Twinkie gotta be a soprano (idk what specifically, I think full-lyric, idk ask someone who knows better ) and @ that Melonie chick. The only other two people I've heard of with similar apparatuses (big as hell, contralto AND soprano) are Rachelle Farell and Maria Callas. Wow. I think they are called 'sfogato sopranos'.
edit: I didn't watch the third video, is that Twinkie singing that bass line, oh my goodness
Soprano sfogato ("Vented" soprano) is a term which, in the art of singing, designates a contralto who is capable—by sheer industry or natural talent—of extending her upper range and being able to encompass the coloratura soprano tessitura. It is sometimes called soprano assoluta.
Mariah does have a decent head voice, but I would say it's the least impressive part of her voice. And she almost NEVER uses it.
I said she most commonly uses them, not that she doesn't use head voice and it's definitely quite underdeveloped compared to her other registers. Funny thing about her head voice is that it was at it's peak during her decline. And yes her nodules are mostly to blame for that.
I can't be bothered to listen to the guy's you are showing but here's a full lyric tenor to compare him to
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The thing about Falcon's though is there quite bright in there upper register, like in the other video with Vanessa you can tell Chaka just doesn't have that ease. She's probably just a light dramatic Mezzo(Mezzo doesn't have Spinto)
Is this thread about actual famous singers/vocalists their vocals or us atrlers?
I love singing but i know i have a terrible techique, i know i'm constantly forcing my throat muscles and it hurts, it's something i've been doing for years so it's became a habit of mine by now and i can't help it so i decided to just stop singing
I got checked the other day and apparently my vocal chords are fine but my throat kinda hurts from time to time
Yeah i know i should go see voice teacher but I'm kinda low on time/coins
Not only that, but he has incredible sustaining power - which is why I think he's a FULL-lyric voice.
Twinkie gotta be a soprano (idk what specifically, I think full-lyric, idk ask someone who knows better ) and @ that Melonie chick. The only other two people I've heard of with similar apparatuses (big as hell, contralto AND soprano) are Rachelle Farell and Maria Callas. Wow. I think they are called 'sfogato sopranos'.
edit: I didn't watch the third video, is that Twinkie singing that bass line, oh my goodness
Yea. i think he's a full-lyric tenor. He kinda reminds me of Luke a little.
And yes that's Twinkie doing the bass/baritone line
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what kinda FREAKS /look at The Lord
I figured Melonie would be. I kinda think Twinkie is too, but of course I could be wrong.
Is this thread about actual famous singers/vocalists their vocals or us atrlers?
I love singing but i know i have a terrible techique, i know i'm constantly forcing my throat muscles and it hurts, it's something i've been doing for years so it's became a habit of mine by now and i can't help it so i decided to just stop singing
I got checked the other day and apparently my vocal chords are fine but my throat kinda hurts from time to time
Yeah i know i should go see voice teacher but I'm kinda low on time/coins
Yea, never push or force your voice. Thankfully no damage has been done. You can look on youtube for certain training videos. Though be careful as not everyone knows what they are talking about.
Tori Kelly also has amazing agility, so ****ing smooth
Yes, I love her and her voice. Incredible agility and more importantly, nice musicianship. She uses the melisma tastefully, where it compliments the music. The only thing I say she should work on is her mix. Sometimes she tenses up, closing off her throat as she belts past a certain point.
Is this thread about actual famous singers/vocalists their vocals or us atrlers?
I love singing but i know i have a terrible techique, i know i'm constantly forcing my throat muscles and it hurts, it's something i've been doing for years so it's became a habit of mine by now and i can't help it so i decided to just stop singing
I got checked the other day and apparently my vocal chords are fine but my throat kinda hurts from time to time
Yeah i know i should go see voice teacher but I'm kinda low on time/coins
Well one supplemental cheap thing you could do would be to check out the library for books for beginners on vocal technique.
But honestly the improvement you want to see is going to take a coach. You can read and talk about it all you want, but until you actually start gaining muscle memory through your passaggi and begin to keep a neutral larynx while singing the "forcing of the throat muscles"(probably a habit you're going to have to break since you've done it for so long) will inhibit and possibly damage your voice.
Is this thread about actual famous singers/vocalists their vocals or us atrlers?
I love singing but i know i have a terrible techique, i know i'm constantly forcing my throat muscles and it hurts, it's something i've been doing for years so it's became a habit of mine by now and i can't help it so i decided to just stop singing
I got checked the other day and apparently my vocal chords are fine but my throat kinda hurts from time to time
Yeah i know i should go see voice teacher but I'm kinda low on time/coins
Learn to breathe from your diaphragm, this is the most important thing to learn and underpins pretty much all aspects of your technique
You can learn this online as you can actually feel if you are doing it right
Other then that try not to force your voice to do anything it can't do with ease
Yes, I love her and her voice. Incredible agility and more importantly, nice musicianship. She uses the melisma tastefully, where it compliments the music. The only thing I say she should work on is her mix. Sometimes she tenses up, closing off her through as she belts past a certain point.
Once her and JoJo work on that, they'll be set.
+1 ALL of this. Her and Jojo sound so similar, along with Jessie J. Tori's mix is getting better though, if you compare the G5s in her Thinking Bout You Cover to her live performances of Nobody Love, the G5s sound MUCH better.
Can we talk about Demi Lovato's INSANE improvement over the past month really?
+1 ALL of this. Her and Jojo sound so similar, along with Jessie J. Tori's mix is getting better though, if you compare the G5s in her Thinking Bout You Cover to her live performances of Nobody Love, the G5s sound MUCH better.
Can we talk about Demi Lovato's INSANE improvement over the past month really?
Left is recent, right is from August.
Ehh. Not really hearing much of a improvement. I need to hear with better sound quality.