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Video Clip: Russia: Gay men beaten on camera
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Originally posted by Fernando.
i really doubt they got punched and attacked for being gay. they probably provoked them , there is always a second half of the story.
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Yeah, because nobody ever gets attacked for just being gay. Like that's never happened before! It must be nice to live in Utopia??
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Originally posted by Fernando.
i really doubt they got punched and attacked for being gay. they probably provoked them , there is always a second half of the story.
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You don't follow a whole lot of news do you...
It's ILLEGAL and you will get arrested in Russia if you even wear 'gay clothes' (anything with the rainbow flag etc), so imagine when people find out you're actually gay.
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Yeah, because nobody ever gets attacked for just being gay. Like that's never happened before! It must be nice to live in Utopia??
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i think its just you along with the other extreme liberals on this site who are paranoid of homophobes. but hey u create your own little world
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Ugh it' so ****ing disgusting that this is happening in a country with such a rich, beautiful culture.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
Why not? Most of those were in the past and today, those countries are trying to go in the right direction towards equality for all. No country is perfect, yes, but Russia actively glorifies this kind of behaviour and even worse, it's done through propaganda and lies. It's barbaric and a lot more than a LGBT-centric issue, it really calls into question what morals they have as a society and why they should be allowed be celebrated as such. Turkey can't even become an EU member, because of it's human rights policies, yet Russia has no problem getting this accolade. It's sickening.
Russia is lucky it has a lot of money, because that's all that is making this seem acceptable. No way they would set up the Olympics in a North African city, because that would probably be a "danger" to more than the gays, and of course, there wouldn't be the money to whitewash that.
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Yes, but the whole world doesn't have to follow the same moral values as us. In fact, in terms of population, we're clearly a minority. An enlightened minority perhaps, but a minority nonethless. The Olympics present themselves as universal and thus outside of the games (no discrimination etc.) they cannot impose specific moral values on a country's policies or allow only those who follow the path we deem as right to host. If they did, they would be taking the risk of having several dozen countries (and perhaps their allies and neighbours) leave the Olympics which would defy the whole purpose of the games.
The EU is a different matter. It is a political institution and presents itself that way without ambiguity. The IOC is a sports organisation first and foremost and I can understand their desire to stick to that despite pressure from all sides.
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I thought my town was homophobic but this is just horrible. And people saying that they were "asking for it" are slightly homophobic.
This just sounds horrible to hear, but it's kind of a situation in which the present gay people in Russia can't win.
if they don't stand out, if they don't do parades, everything will stay just the same and Russia will continue to be homophobic. If they do stand out they'll get beaten up but at least there might be some progress. They're in a way, unfortunately, the ones who have to endure the pain for the next generation. Which just goes to show how ****ed up this world is.
We have to sacrifice people for things to get better.
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
Yes, but the whole world doesn't have to follow the same moral values as us. In fact, in terms of population, we're clearly a minority. An enlightened minority perhaps, but a minority nonethless. The Olympics present themselves as universal and thus outside of the games (no discrimination etc.) they cannot impose specific moral values on a country's policies or allow only those who follow the path we deem as right to host. If they did, they would be taking the risk of having several dozen countries (and perhaps their allies and neighbours) leave the Olympics which would defy the whole purpose of the games.
The EU is a different matter. It is a political institution and presents itself that way without ambiguity. The IOC is a sports organisation first and foremost and I can understand their desire to stick to that despite pressure from all sides.
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I whited out the parts I read, but won't be addressing. Much like the Olympics and other international companies have done to the LGBT community, regarding this matter
Not all countries follow our morals, no, but they should, because it's the right way to be heading. As Hilary Clinton said, "Don't be on the wrong side of history". If it's causing videos like this one, then it's most definitely the wrong side and it baffles me how people can't see that clearly
I know the EU is a different matter, seeing as I am a citizen of it. I was merely using it as an excuse, and already stated that wealth was the IOC's main incentive. Which is of course wrong, but hey ho... that's the world we live in. Money over people.
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Originally posted by Fernando.
i think its just you along with the other extreme liberals on this site who are paranoid of homophobes. but hey u create your own little world
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You say liberal like it's an insult?
I'd much rather be liberal, than naive and ignorant
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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The day Russia's Putin dies is the only time you'll see the end of barbarism .Currently his brought back the cold war culture and propaganda.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by L.B GAGA
The day Russia's Putin dies is the only time you'll see the end of barbarism .Currently his brought back the cold war culture and propaganda.
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Not necessarily, they can easily bring in a successor and use the government owned news channels to make him seem as good/if not better. Like North Korea. Change can only come from the people, and sadly with videos like this, it looks like they're happy with Putin
I do agree about him bringing back that culture though. Definitely giving me Stalin/Mussolini/Hitler teas...
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Giving me nazi Germany teas... The wrong person at the head of Russia and people seem ready to follow with hate and violence...
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Nooo
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They forced a gay man to rape himself with a glass bottle
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What the **** did I just watch. How ****ing disgusting is that!
I'm so pissed watching this, I'm gay as would **** those guys up.
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Originally posted by J a y
They forced a gay man to rape himself with a glass bottle
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That's painful to watch.
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Originally posted by SlayingOnTheEarth
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What?
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Originally posted by Thomasuxx
What?
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That's what was said earlier in this thread by someone else, he's using it to mock that user, not seriously saying it.
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people are actually justifying this???
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un-f***ing-believable
if I lived there I would carry a weapon and just start killing motherf***ers. if y'all want to make it legal to attack gay people, then it should be legal for them to kill in their defense of these f***ing bigots
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