[ezra]

Hive & Kats by miles

[Haribo]

Originally posted by lonnie

The Hive, just yesterday one was saying BEYONCE, the album sold 3.8 million when it hasn't even crossed the 3.5M mark. They also combine ringtones as sales.

Ringtones/mastertones are sales. Ringtones/mastertones are single sales. They replaced physical single sales and then got replaced by digital downloads. Keep on seething.

[Scandal & Media]

Originally posted by lonnie

Don't the little monsters say that Artpop sold 2.5M
Or that BTW sold 8M
Or that TF/TFM sold 17M
Don't even

ARTPOP is at 2.3M according to IFPI as of early this year, BTW is over 7M (def under 8M), and TF has sold over 12M + 6M from TFM, equalling 18M. But anyways...

[GrandMomCookies]

The navy

[Womanizah]

I've seen some of the Navy bringing up "50 million albums" and the Army pulling the 100 million figure when she's closer to 90. I don't know about the Hive, but it isn't a stretch like adding 20 million albums to your fave's receipts.

[Haribo]

Originally posted by Womanizah

I've seen some of the Navy bringing up "50 million albums" and the Army pulling the 100 million figure when she's closer to 90. I don't know about the Hive, but it isn't a stretch like adding 20 million albums to your fave's receipts.

You must have confused the Hive with another fanbase.

[idkher]

Originally posted by Scandal & Media

ARTPOP is at 2.3M according to IFPI as of early this year, BTW is over 7M (def under 8M), and TF has sold over 12M + 6M from TFM, equalling 18M. But anyways...

IFPI reports shipments not sales. And the other two are just lies lmao

Originally posted by Womanizah

I've seen some of the Navy bringing up "50 million albums"

That literally never happened, every Rihanna stan knows her album sales are around 30-32 million

[kyris89]

ALL

[lonnie]

Originally posted by Haribo

Ringtones/mastertones are sales. Ringtones/mastertones are single sales. They replaced physical single sales and then got replaced by digital downloads. Keep on seething.

whatever you say
You're the only people I see bragging about ringtones which are almost free to purchase
I swear to God y'all have me dying
Bragging about sounds that are meant to come to your phone when someone is calling you

Originally posted by Scandal & Media

ARTPOP is at 2.3M according to IFPI as of early this year, BTW is over 7M (def under 8M), and TF has sold over 12M + 6M from TFM, equalling 18M. But anyways...

IFPI merely reports shipments and not sales sold. As for TFM I highly doubt it did over 6 million but I will gladly take back what i said if there are valid sources to back it up

[Haribo]

Originally posted by lonnie

whatever you say
You're the only people I see bragging about ringtones which are almost free to purchase
I swear to God y'all have me dying
Bragging about sounds that are meant to come to your phone when someone is calling you

Free to purchase? You're really embarrassing. By the way, as a chart expert, you should know that several countries included ringtone/mastertone sales into their traditional single charts.

[Mariano]

Yes at Billboard and Microsoft, IFPI being monsters

[lonnie]

Originally posted by Haribo

Free to purchase? You're really embarassing. By the way, as a chart expert, you should know that several countries included ringtone/mastertone sales into their tradional single charts.

which are almost free to purchase

OK then go on posting the ringtone sales I guess
And what about the sales I saw from Africa, where did you get those? I'd like to see some artists' stats too
Ringtones' costs btw vary with the subscribed service, some cost close to nothing tbh
I'd like to see how much those ringtones cost though

[conseeded]

the shakira stans are shameless about their inflations

[Haribo]

Originally posted by lonnie

OK then go on posting the ringtone sales I guess
And what about the sales I saw from Africa, where did you get those? I'd like to see some artists' stats too

You don't even seem to realize that you also include them. And I get African sales from certifications and estimations, and I do the same for Rihanna, FYI.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by Haribo

You don't even seem to realize that you also include them. And I get African sales from certifications and estimations, and I do the same for Rihanna, FYI.

No offence meant but it close to impossible to track sales in the continent in general, only a few countries I can actually just think of South Africa which tracks album sales. Those estimations therefore are highly unreliable, whether you're doing it for Rih or Bey or anyone else in particular.

[Haribo]

Originally posted by lonnie

No offence meant but it close to impossible to track sales in the continent in general, only a few countries I can actually just think of South Africa which tracks album sales. Those estimations therefore are highly unreliable, whether you're doing it for Rih or Bey or anyone else in particular.

Nobody tracks sales in Africa, we're obviously talking about shipments. At the end of the day, that doesn't change anything, anyway.

[ally23]

Clearly ARMY..

[lonnie]

Originally posted by Haribo

Nobody tracks sales in Africa, we're obviously talking about shipments. At the end of the day, that doesn't change anything, anyway.

Shipments where and how accounted by which source?
You are basically pulling numbers out of the air and calling it estimations from shipments
Then you add these unreliable numbers to the album sales and claim that it doesn't change anything?!

And this is why I say Hive is the most notorious for inflation

[Aurora]

Originally posted by ezra

Kats by miles

Maybe on Venus LOL. Kats are one of the least likely to inflate. What would we say, 6 #1's in a row instead of 5?

Unless you're talking about Capitol's 11M Teenage Dream stat that nobody actually believes unlike Monsters who believe Interscope's stats about Gaga but w/e.

[taytay]

Army.. bomt not sold 30m britnet not sold 100 m albm etc etc.. these figures biggest inflated figures all the time.. and army has most inflated figures group