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Celeb News: Janet Jackson: I spotted Lady Gaga first; I want a duet
Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by Captain Planet
Yes, a Mariah fan should know.
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Mariah topped Janet two decades ago, last decade and still has a potential to make another comeback this decade.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by fabbriche
Mariah topped Janet two decades ago, last decade and still has a potential to make another comeback this decade.
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Emancipation WAS Mariah's comeback and her last chance.
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Member Since: 8/8/2008
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Originally posted by fabbriche
Mariah topped Janet two decades ago, last decade and still has a potential to make another comeback this decade.
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I wouldn't be so sure about that this time honestly.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by inspiration4
EDIT: but there's no definitive way too measure something as subjective as "impact". But i will say i'm convinved that if both janet and Gaga retired from the game now, Gaga would have a more significant legacy 20 years from now. My opinion? Yes. But i'm pretty sure i'm right
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No, people would just think of GaGa as a flash-in-the-pan, sorta like Lauryn Hill.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by Captain Planet
Yes, a Mariah fan should know.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by inspiration4
EDIT: but there's no definitive way too measure something as subjective as "impact". But i will say i'm convinved that if both janet and Gaga retired from the game now, Gaga would have a more significant legacy 20 years from now. My opinion? Yes. But i'm pretty sure i'm right
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This part fails for the reason that Janet has been around for 26 years and can still top a chart, no matter the chart she topped it. Gaga has a lot to prove, notice how many girls dropped to the ground from our generation so far, Britney, Bey, and Pink are the only survivors.
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by Satellites
This part fails for the reason that Janet has been around for 26 years and can still top a chart, no matter the chart she topped it. Gaga has a lot to prove, notice how many girls dropped to the ground from our generation so far, Britney, Bey, and Pink are the only survivors.
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Alicia, Kelly (sorta), Rihanna (if you call her our generation).
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by inspiration4
EDIT: but there's no definitive way too measure something as subjective as "impact". But i will say i'm convinved that if both janet and Gaga retired from the game now, Gaga would have a more significant legacy 20 years from now. My opinion? Yes. But i'm pretty sure i'm right
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That's not true at all.
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Member Since: 10/28/2008
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Originally posted by Satellites
This part fails for the reason that Janet has been around for 26 years and can still top a chart, no matter the chart she topped it. Gaga has a lot to prove, notice how many girls dropped to the ground from our generation so far, Britney, Bey, and Pink are the only survivors.
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That line made me burst into fits of giggles.
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by Satellites
This part fails for the reason that Janet has been around for 26 years and can still top a chart, no matter the chart she topped it. Gaga has a lot to prove, notice how many girls dropped to the ground from our generation so far, Britney, Bey, and Pink are the only survivors.
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I wouldn't neccessarily say it fails even though it's purely my opinion. Especially since my opinion is based 100% off the impact Gaga has been able to achieve and maintain compared to her peers, and also the legends.
Yes many people have already have bowed out, but none of those "girls" had 1/4 of the success Gaga had. Not only that, but Gaga's peak has been immensly bigger than all of those you just listed. Notice i said "peak", not longevity. She is the first person since Michael and Madona to completely transcend music. She is a movement. She dominates pop culture for any and everything she does or says, from MTV to CNN..
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
That's not true at all.
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Hence it saying "MY opinion"
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Alicia, Kelly (sorta), Rihanna (if you call her our generation).
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Alicia yes, Rihanna boy please, GGGB is the only thing she has to her name at the moment.
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by inspiration4
I wouldn't neccessarily say it fails even though it's purely my opinion. Especially since my opinion is based 100% off the impact Gaga has been able to achieve and maintain compared to her peers, and also the legends.
Yes many people have already have bowed out, but none of those "girls" had 1/4 of the success Gaga had. Not only that, but Gaga's peak has been immensly bigger than all of those you just listed. Notice i said "peak", not longevity. She is the first person since Michael and Madona to completely transcend music. She is a movement. She dominates pop culture for any and everything she does or says, from MTV to CNN..
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You think she's bigger than Britney ever was? Who are you trying to fool?
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by Captain Planet
Emancipation WAS Mariah's comeback and her last chance.
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Originally posted by Wildhope
I wouldn't be so sure about that this time honestly.
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Originally posted by Satellites
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Mariah won't let her star dim completely until she breaks or evens that Beatles' 20 #1's. Anyway, she's only exactly 40. It's too early for her to retire. She still has some unfinished business. What she needs is a baby or a divorce to draw inspiration from to write incredible songs again.
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by inspiration4
I wouldn't neccessarily say it fails even though it's purely my opinion. Especially since my opinion is based 100% off the impact Gaga has been able to achieve and maintain compared to her peers, and also the legends.
Yes many people have already have bowed out, but none of those "girls" had 1/4 of the success Gaga had. Not only that, but Gaga's peak has been immensly bigger than all of those you just listed. Notice i said "peak", not longevity. She is the first person since Michael and Madona to completely transcend music. She is a movement. She dominates pop culture for any and everything she does or says, from MTV to CNN..
Hence it saying "MY opinion"
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one name britney spears
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by Satellites
Alicia yes, Rihanna boy please, GGGB is the only thing she has to her name at the moment.
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She's STILL here though and she will probably smash with the new era. The world wrote her off as a one-hit wonder after Music of the Sun.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by inspiration4
I wouldn't neccessarily say it fails even though it's purely my opinion. Especially since my opinion is based 100% off the impact Gaga has been able to achieve and maintain compared to her peers, and also the legends.
Yes many people have already have bowed out, but none of those "girls" had 1/4 of the success Gaga had. Not only that, but Gaga's peak has been immensly bigger than all of those you just listed. Notice i said "peak", not longevity. She is the first person since Michael and Madona to completely transcend music. She is a movement. She dominates pop culture for any and everything she does or says, from MTV to CNN..
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Oh boy please, all this time I'm thinking you are talking about her sales and everything that goes with it and you're talking about what she did for music, Britneys impact when she arrived on the scene makes Gagas look like nothing. Beyonce popularitys among the critics that matter is not comparable to anyone and she has every accolade possible to back it up and is the most awarded female artist of the last 20 years along with arguably being the most marketable woman to ever come to Hollywood, she fits every frame from music, television, movies, clothing, you name it.. On top of that they have been consistent for more than 10 years, Beyonce & Britney have yet to flop one time over the course of +10 years that in itself is HUGE. Im not knocking Gaga at all but until she shows she can last like the other girls there is no comparison AT ALL. Yes she is wildly popular but all of them have been at one point whether we admit it or not. For everything you can name that is so impactful im sure a Britney stan and a Beyonce stan can name something as well. She got all of hers at one time, they got theirs over a period of time but it still happened. They lasted, the question is can she?
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
She's STILL here though and she will probably smash with the new era. The world wrote her off as a one-hit wonder after Music of the Sun.
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She hasn't been here as long as them though. Beyonce debuted in 1997 and has a career total of 55 million physical album sales, Britney has even more, and Pink isn't too far behind along with Alicia Keys.
Gaga is on Rihannas tail already with 2 albums.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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I believe Gaga's aritistic imprint has surpassed Britney in a pop cultural context.
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If you want to talk talent then you know exactly how this is about to go.
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Rihanna (if you call her our generation).
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I would say no. She's had 5 years, but 2007 is basically her "starting point" I would say.
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