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Poll: Do you believe in God?
View Poll Results: Do you believe in God?
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Yes Christian.
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52 |
41.27% |
Yes Muslim.
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10 |
7.94% |
Yes Hindu.
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Yes Buddhist.
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1 |
0.79% |
Yes other.
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5 |
3.97% |
Maybe/Agnostic.
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22 |
17.46% |
No.
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28.57% |
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Nope it's not.
It comes from clouds.
Clouds also come by a process, we go back to the sea, how does it happen? because of heat. We go back to the sun.
Why is everything connected and why is it perfect? that's the question.
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But earth is one in trillions though.
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Member Since: 11/4/2010
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Originally posted by Bahjat
What?
You can't say that. at all.
We don't even know how the weather condition was before.
And we don't know how the Earth was, continents were connected as some believe.
You can't say ''The ones in Europe... etc.''
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you can though. there's fossil records of deceased animals which once lived thousands of years ago. it's how we know man evolved from ape; there's fossils of many different stages of human evolution all over the world (though primarily in africa). if one species spreads to different environments (to africa and to europe for example), the ones living in africa could experience harsher climates and other environmental issues which would cause them, over a long period of time, to change physically to adapt to their new climate. that change doesn't have to happen to all members of the species, hence why a colony of a species living in europe may stay the same when a colony of the same species in africa could evolve.
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Originally posted by RCL
there is no god . and dont give me the "he made us + universe"
ur mom + dad made u using (egg + sperm)
the universe + earth has been proven to have been made by science/physics etc ..
and if god made jesus .. who made god?
jesus/allah/buddah and others .. are just belief that has been going on for thousands of years that keep people company .. .. so ![psyduck](images/smilies/images/smilies/psyduck.gif)
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Don't waste your breath, there's really no point arguing. I learnt it over the years. I've been an atheist since about 14. You can disprove every single point that theists make, but they'll keep jumping onto new and new topics and in the end when they are totally cornered and out of arguments, they just fall back to something like "you need to see the light and let Jesus into your heart"
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by NaughtyDog
Why we have the moon, sun, stars, etc all of that can be traced back
This planet is able to keep us alive due to its position in the solar system and the way it was transformed, but to get the jist of it you need to understand the concept of Deep Time. The Earth wasnt hospitable till millions of years after it was formed. It was formed 4.5 billion years ago and the first signs of life came around 3.8 billion years ago. So you can see how it had many years to change its atmosphere and acidic levels. Even then we wouldnt be able to survive on this Earth for a billions years more due to oxygen levels not being how they are now.
All of this took time, just like it took time to develop reproductive organs and the way species mate.
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Exactly. Due to it's position in the solar system.
Why are we specially here on Earth? (The perfect planet for us)
And yes it had many years to change but creatures have lived here since the day life appeared.
You also cannot prove what you said, because Science discoveries keep changing, and what they believed in the whole time could change with a new discovery.
And some of those things are still just speculations.
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Originally posted by Signs
But earth is one in trillions though.
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It's what we all see though. It's what we can talk about.
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Exactly. Due to it's position in the solar system.
Why are we specially here on Earth? (The perfect planet for us)
And yes it had many years to change but creatures have lived here since the day life appeared.
You also cannot prove what you said, because Science discoveries keep changing, and what they believed in the whole time could change with a new discovery.
And some of those things are still just speculations.
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Most of those things are not speculations, they are theories formed due to evidence which trumps any of a God (hint there is no evidence). Scientist can measure the oxygen levels of years past by analyzing ice sheets from there they can decipher how the atmosphere would have been years ago.
We are here in this planet because it can sustain life... just like there are probably thousands of planets that can and probably do as well. We have a whole universe to explore, stop thinking humanity is something special. This world, life, will continue on years after we are gone.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Nope it's not.
It comes from clouds.
Clouds also come by a process, we go back to the sea, how does it happen? because of heat. We go back to the sun.
Why is everything connected and why is it perfect? that's the question.
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You've got it all the wrong way round
We are here because the weather conditions were perfect for us, for life, to live, to evolve, etc.
Not the other way round. The weather and the sun and trees and cloud weren't made specifically for us so that we could live
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
Posts: 19,910
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Exactly. Due to it's position in the solar system.
Why are we specially here on Earth? (The perfect planet for us)
And yes it had many years to change but creatures have lived here since the day life appeared.
You also cannot prove what you said, because Science discoveries keep changing, and what they believed in the whole time could change with a new discovery.
And some of those things are still just speculations.
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Not sure if trolling at this point
You know how .....
Actually you know what.. never mind. I'll take my own advice.
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Why is there rain to keep planets alive?
Who cares about this????
Why do we have the sun? What about the moon and stars? Why is anything on this earth useful to us and keeps us alive?
You can't just say there's no God, this is a big and a serious subject.
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How do you know it's your particular god, not one of the others?
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Katie
How do you know it's your particular god, not one of the others?
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There only one God ?
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Originally posted by Katie
How do you know it's your particular god, not one of the others?
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I didn't say that it was MY god.
And ''my'' God is the one that most people believe in, the one that never came on Earth, the one that's unseen.
The things that are keeping me to my religion are the Scientific notions that are in the Quran.
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Originally posted by NaughtyDog
Most of those things are not speculations, they are theories formed due to evidence which trumps any of a God (hint there is no evidence). Scientist can measure the oxygen levels of years past by analyzing ice sheets from there they can decipher how the atmosphere would have been years ago.
We are here in this planet because it can sustain life... just like there are probably thousands of planets that can and probably do as well. We have a whole universe to explore, stop thinking humanity is something special. This world, life, will continue on years after we are gone.
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From what I've read online, there's no evidence or proof.
I'll do a bigger research at a point.... but as of now I just came back from BLACK days, I've been feeling awful about this subject.
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Member Since: 11/4/2010
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Originally posted by Bahjat
From what I've read online, there's no evidence or proof.
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surely you're trolling now lol. there's centuries of evidence supporting the origin of species, evolution, the formation of the universe, etc
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Everyone in these threads is always so ![psyduck](images/smilies/images/smilies/psyduck.gif)
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by Bahjat
The things that are keeping me to my religion are the Scientific notions that are in the Quran.
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Like what ?
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Member Since: 11/27/2011
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Originally posted by callum
surely you're trolling now lol. there's centuries of evidence supporting the origin of species, evolution, the formation of the universe, etc
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I am not.
You don't get it, this is an important subject to me and it has been leading me to awful days.
I just came to the conclusion yesterday that there's definitely someone out there. After reading so much online and reading about religions and all...
Sorry if I don't make sense at a point (or all of them), I'm not a scientist nor a professor, I'm just trying to learn and speak out about my beliefs.
I still have faith in my religion.
And after all, I'm just a 17 year old guy trying to find an answer.
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Member Since: 6/14/2012
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Originally posted by Bahjat
Actually it's not as simple as that...
The question isn't who made us, the question is who made this possible?
The idea of mating sounds pretty normal and simple but I mean.. who made it possible?
It happened accidentally?
Why are we specially in this planet? the one the fits us the most.
Why is there rain to keep planets alive?
Who cares about this????
Why do we have the sun? What about the moon and stars? Why is anything on this earth useful to us and keeps us alive?
You can't just say there's no God, this is a big and a serious subject.
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Ask god maybe he'll tell you ![party](images/smilies/images/smilies/party.gif)
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Originally posted by Muggwa
Everyone in these threads is always so ![psyduck](images/smilies/images/smilies/psyduck.gif)
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I can't close on mobile ![lmao](http://atrl.net/forums/images/smilies/images/smilies/lmao.gif)
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