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Discussion: Atheists & Agnostics Hangout Thread.
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Originally posted by FBF
What do you guys think of death though ? Do you think there's nothing after ? Do you make a separation between the "mind" and the "body", scientifically it's proven that energy never dies, so what happens to our energy ?
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same thing that happens before we were born
why would anyone be stressed out with how life goes after we die? Can you imagine people like Hitler turning into an energy and lurking people? or people from medival times?
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If there's anything after death, it's most likely reincarnation, everything else just sounds silly to me. I mean, reincarnation sounds stupid too, but I just think it's the most probable scenario after death, idk.
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Originally posted by FBF
What do you guys think of death though ? Do you think there's nothing after ? Do you make a separation between the "mind" and the "body", scientifically it's proven that energy never dies, so what happens to our energy ?
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There is nothing after death just like there was nothing before death.Just like there is nothing after an animal dies.Or a plant. The only reason we think there is something is because humans are the only animals on the planet who are capable of constructing such abstract and complex thoughts.
When you die your body decays. Your brain doesn't function anymore and your senses stop working.
In short you are no longer able to "experience" anything.
As for the "energy never dies" I assume you are refering to the fact that when animals including humans die the "energy" gets "re-used" as nutrition for fungus,worms or other animals and therefore goes back into the circle of life and isn't lost.
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Originally posted by FBF
What do you guys think of death though ? Do you think there's nothing after ? Do you make a separation between the "mind" and the "body", scientifically it's proven that energy never dies, so what happens to our energy ?
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To me, death is just the end of life. I want to believe there's something after but I just don't think there is.
Everyone always talks about this "energy" idea but the truth is we're all just an arrangement of cells and when our time is up, these cells die. The "energy" people think we seem to have is just electrical impulses in our mind and when those cells die out, the signals stop being sent and we shut down and degrade to nothing. It's really that simple... and depressing.
Edit: Oh wait you're talking about the conservation of energy and not just some weird "energy" people think we have. Well Lucas explains it above.. our body mass just degrades and decomposes.
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the same questions actually haunted me for awhile as FBF but I think Lucas just answered them
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I think it annoys me just as much when people misuse the "agnostic" excuse as when they use the "it's faith" one.
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nnnn, no wonder why people think we atheists are so depressed when we look at death for what it is.
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Thank you all for your answers, I watched your videos Wonderland.
It's such an interesting subject, the fact that some animals can virtually be immortals too blurs the line between life and death, reading about near death experiences is also very interesting.
Do you guys believe in cryopreservation (not sure about the english term) ? Do you think it'll ever be a thing ?
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I don't really understand the science behind cryopreservaation or why anybody would wish to go through with it. Wake up in a strange world without a friendly face in sight all for the most likely futile dream of having your illness cured? Sounds dreadful to me
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Originally posted by Ecstasy
I don't really understand the science behind cryopreservaation or why anybody would wish to go through with it. Wake up in a strange world without a friendly face in sight all for the most likely futile dream of having your illness cured? Sounds dreadful to me
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You never wondered how the world used to be, or how it'll look like ? I'd go through it if it becomes a thing tbh.
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Originally posted by FBF
You never wondered how the world used to be, or how it'll look like ? I'd go through it if it becomes a thing tbh.
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Honestly, aren't you more curious to put an end to all of the pondering about what comes after death if anything comes at all?
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I have no doubt cryopreservation will one day be capable of keeping humans alive, possibly forever but that doesn't really sound appealing to me. More horrifying to be honest.
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Originally posted by Ecstasy
Honestly, aren't you more curious to put an end to all of the pondering about what comes after death if anything comes at all?
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I want to live. I mean I'm not scared of death, because well you don't feel anything so there's nothing to be scared of, but I enjoy living so much that if I had the option to keep myself alive, I would
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Originally posted by Lucas32
I have no doubt cryopreservation will one day be capable of keeping humans alive, possibly forever but that doesn't really sound appealing to me. More horrifying to be honest.
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And I get that you feel that way, it's a choice !
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Originally posted by FBF
I want to live. I mean I'm not scared of death, because well you don't feel anything so there's nothing to be scared of, but I enjoy living so much that if I had the option to keep myself alive, I would
And I get that you feel that way, it's a choice !
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I definitely see why it sounds appealing to many people and I am not denying there is curiosity in me when it comes to seeing how our world will turn out, what advancements will be made and things like that but as a whole it sounds off-putting to me. I mean what if the people you love aren't doing the same. Would one have to start over every time? Find new people every time?And what would be the effect on an already overpopulated earth? There are too many questions for me to embrace the thought to be honest but I do see the appeal.
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I want to live
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<<<<< You in about 50 years
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Originally posted by Lucas32
I definitely see why it sounds appealing to many people and I am not denying there is curiosity in me when it comes to seeing how our world will turn out, what advancements will be made and things like that but as a whole it sounds off-putting to me. I mean what if the people you love aren't doing the same. Would one have to start over every time? Find new people every time?And what would be the effect on an already overpopulated earth? There are too many questions for me to embrace the thought to be honest but I do see the appeal.
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You start over multiples times in life as it is, a new city, a new job, friends going away, ...
As far as the overpopulated earth question goes, people will stop procreating, look at the birth rate in developed countries, it's getting lower and lower.
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Bitch I'm 21 Give me at least 60 more years
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Honestly FBF, you should watch the finale of 6 Feet Under to cure all these anxieties about your life. Join the winning team
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Originally posted by FBF
You star over multiples times in life as it is, a new city, a new job, friends going away, ...
As far the overpopulated earth question, people will stop procreating, look at the birth rate in developed countries, it's getting lower and lower.
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But I feel like it would be different because it would be a completely different time and a completely different situation but I do see your point that it surely isn't impossible to adjust to whatever situation you wake up in.
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Originally posted by Ecstasy
Honestly FBF, you should watch the finale of 6 Feet Under to cure all these anxieties about your life. Join the winning team
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true!
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