[Codex]

http://mobile.news.com.au/world/euro...-1227515922792

"Serbian border police say that 90 per cent of those arriving from Macedonia, some 3,000 a day, claim they are Syrian, although they have no documents to prove it. The so-called Balkan corridor for the migrant flight starts in Turkey, then goes through Macedonia and Serbia before entering the European Union in Hungary.

“You can see that something is fishy when most of those who cross into Serbia enter January first as the date of their birth,” said border police officer Miroslav Jovic. “Guess that’s the first date that comes to their mind.”

Reminds me of how the percentage of Syrians in the Eastern Train Terminal in Budapest doubled when Merkel said that Germany is accepting all Syrians. Mess @ them not even bothering to come up with a somewhat legit fake birthday.

[Domination]

They need to limit the flow of migrants/refugees and stop trying to play savior.

[Adonis]

Originally posted by Deuces

Is Greece in a position to be helping anyone though? Legitimate question.

I think the answer could be alluded to from what I stated in my post. Dont pick bits and pieces and miss the part where I said Germany could allow Greece to help those coming through.

[GypsyLife]

Originally posted by Deuces

Speaking of little action has the EU come to consensus? Or are they still playing a game of hot potato.

Is this the best contribution to put into this discussion?
At least some of ya'll try instead of posting and co-signing a one liner.

[Dynamo]

Originally posted by freebitch26

this thread

[shayne]

It's funny how the USA got away from this when they literally caused the situation.

[Siberian Tiger]

Americans are always safe thousands miles away from any mess they help to start, why would they be bothered to care?

[LuLuDrops]

Romania: we will help but...

The country said it could take a maximum of 1,800 but reminded the EU that sources are limited and stated that if EU wants to enact a quota then Romania should be let in the Schegen Area.

[Tropez]

Originally posted by shayne

It's funny how the USA got away from this when they literally caused the situation.

Originally posted by Siberian Tiger

Americans are always safe thousands miles away from any mess they help to start, why would they be bothered to care?

Respectfully, can you explain why?

[Reader]

Originally posted by Tropez

Respectfully, can you explain why?

By destabilising the region with the UK's help when they punched out Gadaffi, who kept Libya stable, and backing "rebel-led groups" with arms in Syria who were fighting the current Assad regime.

[Jicky]

I read this article on Japanese times the other day. Uruguay received some Syrian refugees last year who now want to leave the country for Germany. Reason: Uruguay does not offer enough money to live on for a family of 5. Hm this says it all...
Full article here : http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/201.../#.Ve6SrYpHmc3

[Tropez]

Originally posted by Reader

By destabilising the region with the UK's help when they punched out Gadaffi, who kept Libya stable, and backing "rebel-led groups" with arms in Syria who were fighting the current Assad regime.

I did some more research and it was a proxy war, with many countries involved in the situation.

And how does Libya connect to this? I know it was the Arab Spring at this time. And the US along with a few nations were reluctant to get involved until chemical warfare and other worse things happened.

And many countries were attacked for not being involved in Syria early to stop the use of chemical weapons.

Originally posted by Jicky

I read this article on Japanese times the other day. Uruguay received some Syrian refugees last year who now want to leave the country for Germany. Reason: Uruguay does not offer enough money to live on for a family of 5. Hm this says it all...
Full article here : http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/201.../#.Ve6SrYpHmc3

Which I don't blame, really these refugees should be going to countries that can financially help them until they have settled in. They don't speak the language, I don't see how they would even find a job.

[Jicky]

Originally posted by Tropez

I did some more research and it was a proxy war, with many countries involved in the situation.

And how does Libya connect to this? I know it was the Arab Spring at this time. And the US along with a few nations were reluctant to get involved until chemical warfare and other worse things happened.

And many countries were attacked for not being involved in Syria early to stop the use of chemical weapons.



Which I don't blame, really these refugees should be going to countries that can financially help them until they have settled in. They don't speak the language, I don't see how they would even find a job.

Seriously? The guy already has a job. Uruguay is probs the richest country in South america.

My salary is around 850 euros. With this logic maybe any EU citizen who is worse of then the German tax payer should just move to Germany and apply for asylum on economic basis coz we all deserve more, right?

[Reader]

@Tropez because Libya's infrastructure was destroyed, the country became the first route from North African mainland to Europe, which was abused by the criminal trafficking gangs. When the first waves of migrants started hitting Europe's shores the response was misguided and messy, which in turn allowed/caused the surge from all over. Australia had the right idea in turning away boats, saving lives and keeping itself stable.

The U.S. should help out.

[AnneBoleyn]

Migrants storm police lines and march into traffic on Hungarian motorway before going to SLEEP on the road









Hundreds of migrants broke through a police line near a refugee centre and marched against oncoming traffic on a motorway hard shoulder heading for Budapest.

A group of around 200 refugee walked some nine miles along the M5 motorway – and even set up camp for the night on the road – before police negotiators persuaded some to board buses to take them back to a nearby registration centre.

The migrants were part of a 1,000-strong crowd who had earlier pushed past a police line at a refugee collection point at Roszke – the first stop before people are brought in for registration.

Meanwhile, fresh clashes erupted between police and migrants on the Greek island of Lesbos last night, which authorities said was 'on the verge of explosion', as Britain and France pledged to accept tens of thousands more refugees from the record influx.

Evangelos Meimarakis, leader of Greece's hard-right New Democracy party which could return to power this month, said the country should strengthen its borders so as not to send 'the message that "it's good over here, come over".'


In Hungary, police earlier closed a section of the motorway near Roszke, close to the Serbian border, after the group climbed over a barrier and onto the motorway, which leads to the capital.

Clashes broke out between police and migrants, sick of the long delays at the overcrowded holding centres, with officers using pepper spray on some of the crowd.

There were scuffles throughout Monday as migrants chanting 'Freedom!' protested at having to wait for hours in the open for buses to take them for registration.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...come-here.html

[Tropez]

Originally posted by Jicky

Seriously? The guy already has a job. Uruguay is probs the richest country in South america.

My salary is around 850 euros. With this logic maybe any EU citizen who is worse of then the German tax payer should just move to Germany and apply for asylum on economic basis coz we all deserve more, right?

I was speaking in general. But this article says they aren't too happy there, and some rather go back to Lebanon.

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-syr...sewhere-2015-9

Originally posted by Reader

@Tropez because Libya's infrastructure was destroyed, the country became the first route from North African mainland to Europe, which was abused by the criminal trafficking gangs. When the first waves of migrants started hitting Europe's shores the response was misguided and messy, which in turn allowed/caused the surge from all over. Australia had the right idea in turning away boats, saving lives and keeping itself stable.

The U.S. should help out.

The country should and can do more, but I feel like it won't happen until Germany or the UK calls them out on it. Until then, the anti-immigration in the country is much to high to allow them in. From what I know, it takes too long to admit them in due to strong security checks.

[Brunette Ambition]

Originally posted by freebitch26

this thread

I hope you get banned.

[GypsyLife]

Originally posted by Jicky

Seriously? The guy already has a job. Uruguay is probs the richest country in South america.

My salary is around 850 euros. With this logic maybe any EU citizen who is worse of then the German tax payer should just move to Germany and apply for asylum on economic basis coz we all deserve more, right?

850? the average salary in Poland is about 800 before taxes
And that's about the highest in Eastern Europe and they complain that those countries need to take in more refugees.

[stevyy]

salaries are based on economic strength of a country. If you earn 850€ in Poland you can live a great life there. If you earn 850€ in GER you couldnt even afford a 2 bedroom flat in any of the big western cities.

In Germany you need a net salary of around 2000€ to not belong to the lower-income-classes.

[stevyy]

Originally posted by BrunoASC

It is very easy for Germany to look like the good guy since they are so far from all the entrances that these refugees and migrants use to get into Europe. Western europe should send aid to where the problem is coming from and stop acting like the peripheral countries are being xenophobic and racist.
Luckily Portugal, despite all the economic problems, already accepted the number of people that the EU said we have to welcome and also we have the navy helping in the mediterranean.

Syria is a war ridden country with not western presence.. nobody in their right mind would send financial aid to the country, god knows who is going to get it and what they may purchase with it...

Also, the EU cannot trust Turkey in any aspect. Erdogan is a modern dictator. The level of corruption there is unheard-of.. it equals some african countries actually. Sending money to turkey makes sure, that it is not used for the cause. We all know Erdogan is going to use it to get rid of the Kurds..

It is basically the same for many eastern european countries. Greece has received 300bn euros since 2010 and look where they are now... on the brink of bankruptcy. Macedonia and co... hell no. EU states would need to actively go into those countries and build up houses and import food, clothes, and no sovereign state would allow that.

so the dilemma is that you cannot change the situation at the basis. you can only deal with the people when they are in your country.