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Celeb News: Sony bamboozles judge/Kesha not released
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Originally posted by Reserved
Sony should just drop her and that's it. i'm sure she won't release more albums with them, so what is their point?... they are just ruining their brand
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Lol They don't need Ke$ha but they are keeping her to effectively seal the loophole that could destroy labels like Sony, Interscope,Universal etc into releasing their acts because of the same alibis.
Sony is a very powerful entity in the music industry. They'll weather this than a Ke$ha would in the same situation.
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Originally posted by GotSkill
No. That's just a terrible idea. We don't want a legal system where any woman can accuse any man of such things and have him thrown in jail without any evidence.
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Mess, an average woman can't just lie about rape. That's heartless. Plus, majority of rape cases always turn out to be accurate.
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Originally posted by Dark Matter
That's not how the law works, especially when the alleged victim is using the alleged rape to get out of her record deal, instead of seeking justice for being raped. That's why the whole thing is suspect - Kesha isn't actually seeking justice for an alleged rape, she's using it only as a reason for getting out of a record deal, which isn't normal.
Dr Luke hasn't actually been investigated for alleged rape. Kesha hasn't actually formally gone to the police and told them he raped her. This unfortunately makes it look like to any respectable judge that Kesha doesn't want this rape case that deeply investigated, because the moment it is, it could be found untrue and actually used against her trying to get out of her record deal.
Further more, there's actually more suggesting that Dr Luke didn't rape her or even have sex with her, than that he did. Dr Luke has the support of Kesha's peers, even artists that have no relationship with Dr Luke, such as Lady Gaga and Kelly Clarkson, who have both publicly called fowl on Kesha and her team for lying. Then there are celebrated artists like Katy Perry, Britney Spears, Nicki Minaj, Max Martin, Bonnie McKee, etc. who are still very involved with Dr Luke as recently as today.
As slimy as the music industry is, L.A. Reid would send the Fifth Harmony girls to do recording sessions with Dr Luke if he believed he was a rapist. This counts for something, and unless Kesha gets the courage to take the rape allegation further, it's just a case of he said/she said with no real objective, that is sliding towards Dr Luke's favour.
If the judge today believed Dr Luke raped Kesha, she would be out of the record deal. Sadly the US law, one of the biggest Japanese companies in the world and most of the music industry don't believe her. Simple as that sadly.
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I'm not a fan of your pseudo logic chain. It makes it seem like you're asserting a fact and that's just not true. Kesha hasn't brought the rape case to court and therefore it's probably not rape? How about, the court of law doesn't recognize rape that has actually happened and it would be a waste of time on keshas part to pursue.
Moreover, people are questioning why she would decide to not take up sonys offer. I don't think it's so farfetched that she would rather not continue funding her alleged rapists career.
I'm not even going to address all these random accusations regarding "kesha" playing the blame game with other celebrities. Kesha didn't do any of that, her lawyer/mom played that game and it's disingenuous to attribute that to kesha. You and I both know that none of us know what her sides case consisted of, considering none of us have been informed. It's clear some sketchy stuff has occurred behind the scenes looking at Sky's tweet other occurances in the past few months
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Originally posted by B'Day
Mess, an average woman can't just lie about rape. That's heartless. Plus, majority of rape cases always turn out to be accurate.
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Then let them be proved accurate in a court of law. That's what the justice system is for.
No one should be imprisoned just on the word of someone else without being giving the opportunity to defend themselves. THAT would be heartless.
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Originally posted by B'Day
Mess, an average woman can't just lie about rape. That's heartless. Plus, majority of rape cases always turn out to be accurate.
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Originally posted by B'Day
Mess, an average woman can't just lie about rape. That's heartless. Plus, majority of rape cases always turn out to be accurate.
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Sexism at its finest, a man can be a victim too and ratios doesn't mean anything as truth is the ultimate goal for any justice system. ,Heard "How to make a murderer"? if anything a man accused of rape has more to lose than a woman who has lied of being raped.
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Why the hell isn't this a bigger new outlet? Like this should be constantly talked about on local news stations, the view, the view, the real, dr Phil etc etc. It should be trending on Twitter and Facebook. It's not a big story for the Internet and GP, and it should be. Why the hell isnt?
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Originally posted by GotSkill
No. That's just a terrible idea. We don't want a legal system where any woman can accuse any man of such things and have him thrown in jail without any evidence.
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Don't make me laugh with your man tears. For now it's the other way around and I don't want a legal system where 97 out of 100 rapists receive no punishment at all, stop with that shitcuse. I don't want a legal system where I have a 3% chance to get any justice.
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This is so sad. Ugh
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Has anyone mentioned the fact that Kesha is not simply ASKING SONY TO RE!EASE HER FROM HER CONTRACT?
She is basically asking the court to hold SONY liable for "sexual abuse and battery, sexual harassment, gender violence and more" and asking for monetary compensation.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr...Top+Stories%29
People really wonder why they wouldn't fight that?? They should just hand over money??
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I haven't been following the debate in this thread but I personally know 2 young women who have lied about being raped and abused just because they didn't like a guy, so that does happen.
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The Dr Luke stans are wow but if this was their fave pop girl
Glad to see a few girls showing support. I find it really sad not a lot of people have showed support towards Kesha. I'm sure most stay away because its against DR LUKE the hitmaker!! the one that has worked with pretty much all the relevant pop girls and the ones that were relevant at some point. The sad part is that lets say this was Taylor Swift and a less relevant producer it would be way different.. really heartbreaking and to see some gays being so nasty is really
Who are you to judge a rape victim nd what she should've done??
You wont know how it feels.
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Originally posted by TasteOfYourLips
Don't make me laugh with your man tears. For now it's the other way around and I don't want a legal system where 97 out of 100 rapists receive no punishment at all, stop with that shitcuse. I don't want a legal system where I have a 3% chance to get any justice.
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GTFO with that feminist-made up statistics. The true percentage is virtually unknown. And there have been reports of false rape accusations that could range from 2%-10%
And FYI,3% of false rape accusations in real numbers means a failure of justice. That's a pretty big number to consider.
This is why it's hard to support Ke$ha with her fans sensationalizing everything because their fave told them so.
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Originally posted by TasteOfYourLips
Don't make me laugh with your man tears. For now it's the other way around and I don't want a legal system where 97 out of 100 rapists receive no punishment at all, stop with that shitcuse. I don't want a legal system where I have a 3% chance to get any justice.
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The justice system is flawed, it's not perfect. And it will never be. But if you can't see anything wrong with locking someone up, in some instances for decades, without affording him his day in court to defend himself and prove his innocence, then there's something wrong with the way you look at the world.
Rape victims should be encouraged to report rape as soon as it happens in order to collect as much evidence as possible.
The accused should have his day in court to fight the allegations.
A jury of their peers or a judge will then decide whether the evidence is enough to imprison someone.
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Well she didn't have any evidence of the rape happening. And that's all that matters. You can NOT just say someone sexually assaulted you and expect him to be locked up and his life destroyed.
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