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Stats: $83,040,746 - ArtRave Boxscores & Receipts - Official Thread
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Originally posted by TanguyMonsterr
Again, maximal capacity =\= avaible tickets for a show. The Tel Aviv show was sold out, since we don't have anything to prove it wasn't.
And for the Vancouver, I can't use fans' information. Especially when we were told by some fans that the Dubai would bring way more than 10,000 people when it did not. I only believe LiveNation's receipts, which are the more official we have. And for the map, if all the sections are in blue, it doesn't mean all the seats can be bought. It means there is at least ONE seat that can be bought in that section. That's why, once everything is sold out, they add some back seats. Because those weren't on sales before, but since the demand was high enough, they added some.
And let me tell you that if there are some empty seats, it doesn't mean the show isn't sold out. It can mean many things :
-Someone bought them and tried to re-sell them but failed.
-Someone who should have attented couldn't and wasn't able to sell its tickets.
If the show is reported as sold out, all the tickets have been bought, and that's all that matters.
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This is not fan receipts, this is the tickets available shown on the interactive map of the show, everyone can see and count them. If there were 2k tickets left and empty seats that were available on Ticketmaster then why do you still think the show was sold-out ? I mean... I still can't believe you're trying to find excuses while you have receipts and pictures...
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The excuses. Gaga selling out all but one of her shows is the big giveaway that they are just saying sold out to make it look good.
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Originally posted by Rainbow Unicorn
I still can't believe you're trying to find excuses while you have receipts and pictures...
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Because I don't.
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Originally posted by MarryTheMonster
Wait is that real stats  the reviewers said 5500-7000 though, and it was almost 9000 
They should've moved it to Oslo Spektrum tbh but Telenor Arena sounds more big and WOW I guess
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All those kats... 
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I love the OP, it's really clear !
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Originally posted by Rainbow Unicorn
About Tel Aviv, this is the interview/article of the promoters + Ronen Audi on September but here there are talking about 23,000 sold, which seems to be a lie by seeing the boxscores, but it means that the capacity was bigger. Actually, Hayarkon Park can hold 50k, so... No way, there weren't only 19k on sale. I can't find the proper article where the promoters were saying that 35,000 tickets will be sold, but they said it on TV, on Channel 2. The producers said they had sold over 25,000 tickets, and that the final destination would be 35,000. They also expected financial loss, because Gaga was promised $1.5M from advance and the tickets sale wasn't amazing. Sorry, I can't give you another proof for this one, I'll understand if you don't believe me. But just believe the fact that the park can hold 50k.
About Vancouver, it's simple. All the seats were available :
- artRAVE :
http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...psc25717cb.png
- Born This Way Ball :
http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...ps0abfac60.png
All the seats available (like the BTWBall) = the maximum capacity is used, which means 15k (she did an average of +15k at the BTWBall).
And this is how the show looked, you can see some empty seats that were sold-out before the reschedule :
http://scontent-b.cdninstagram.com/h...08098541_n.jpg
Several monsters (from GGD+ATRL) counted the tickets left and there were between 1.5k and 2k tickets left :
http://atrl.net/forums/showthread.php?t=468404&page=751
Live Nation reports shows as sold-out even if they weren't. And not only for Gaga you know...
Also, do you remember Gaga's show last year in Tacoma ? It was a big mess. ALL the tickets were available (about 20k).
http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/...ps9d02ea6c.png
People on the upper level were pushed to the lower level and Live Nation still reported the show as sold-out with 14k/14k. |
the endless babbling^^?
How hard is it to understand; lets put it this way: I'm at a lemonade stand. It's not my lemonade stand I'm there for school and there's people that own it. I bring a gallon of lemonade and sell all of it to the customers that show up. That means I SOLD OUT of my lemonade, does it not?
That's exactly what LiveNation does with any tour. Offer up a fixed number of showtickets and if they all get purchased - the show is sold out. I don't get the incessant need to bang on and on in sadness about how you think it's 'corrupt!!' You've been hanging around a certain tumblr blog a little too much, tbh 
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Originally posted by ezra
the endless babbling^^?
How hard is it to understand; lets put it this way: I'm at a lemonade stand. It's not my lemonade stand I'm there for school and there's people that own it. I bring a gallon of lemonade and sell all of it to the customers that show up. That means I SOLD OUT of my lemonade, does it not?
That's exactly what LiveNation does with any tour. Offer up a fixed number of showtickets and if they all get purchased - the show is sold out. I don't get the incessant need to bang on and on in sadness about how you think it's 'corrupt!!' You've been hanging around a certain tumblr blog a little too much, tbh |
This discussion ended a month ago. I don't know why we should re-talk about it.
Everyone has its own opinion, I think TanguyMonsterr agree with that too. Everything is ok. 
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Lady Gaga, Lady Starlight
O2 Arena London, U.K.
Oct. 23, 25-26, 2014
$4,631,817
42,845 /42,845
3 / 3
$144.79, $56.31
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation UK
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ATRL Senior Member
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Originally posted by Shelter
Lady Gaga, Lady Starlight
O2 Arena London, U.K.
Oct. 23, 25-26, 2014
$4,631,817
42,845 /42,845
3 / 3
$144.79, $56.31
Live Nation Global Touring/Live Nation UK
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slay a bit Gaga 
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New boxscores (part 1).
Lady Gaga,
O2 Arena
London, U.K.
$4,631,817
42,845 / 42,845
Lady Gaga
Phones 4u Arena
Manchester, U.K.
$1,625,149
14,719 / 14,719
Lady Gaga
Palau Sant Jordi
Barcelona, Spain
$1,420,987
17,513 / 17,513
Lady Gaga
Barclaycard Arena
Birmingham, U.K.
$1,329,847
12,092 / 12,092
Lady Gaga
Hallenstadion
Zurich, Switzerland
$1,314,684
13,259 /13,259
Lady Gaga
SSE Hydro
Glasgow, U.K.
$1,278,571
11,554 / 11,554
Lady Gaga
Lanxess Arena
Koln, Germany
$1,139,559
13,189 / 13,189
Lady Gaga
O2
Dublin, Ireland
$1,117,109
11,497 / 11,497
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AWESOME NUMBERS!
(except Portugal, but who cares...)
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ATRL Senior Member
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my date slaying
Lady Gaga
SSE Hydro
Glasgow, U.K.
$1,278,571
11,554 / 11,554
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(Part 2/2)
Lady Gaga
Zenith
Paris, France
$1,071,553
12,301 / 12,301
Lady Gaga
Wiener Stadthalle
Vienna, Austria
$1,055,678
11,586 / 13,598
Lady Gaga
Mediolanum Forum
Milan, Italy
$989,889
10,852 / 10,852
Lady Gaga
O2 World
Berlin, Germany
$950,331
10,555 / 10,555
Lady Gaga
MEO Arena
Lisbon, Portugal
$365,313
7,345 / 7,345
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Quote:
Originally posted by TanguyMonsterr
Lady Gaga
MEO Arena
Lisbon, Portugal
$365,313
7,345 / 7,345
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Originally posted by Reaper
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When will your fave 
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Originally posted by Reaper
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1. I hope you don't try to start ****, because you can leave. I'm already tired of this.
2. Don't act surprise. We knew for sure it would be bad. Portugal is in a terrible situation. Not many people can sell out a show there, so it was pretty sure the gross would be terrible.
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TOTAL GROSS (Europe): $26,518,955
TOTAL GROSS: $79,156,836.
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Sweden hasn't even reported for Miley's show at the same arena, and that was on May 28th. What is going on
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Originally posted by Reaper
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This is the only bad number tbh, and this is not surprising. Look at the other great numbers.
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