[Dämon]

Originally posted by 19SLAYty9

Born THis Way should be bigger. It was the lead single after an era full of RedOne songs that all slayed. However, none of the other singles from BTW were as Big as Alejandro.

TEOG was pretty close. True Alejandro sold slightly more, but both are pretty close if you take a look at their sales

[19SLAYty9]

Originally posted by Aden

RedOne's last hit was in 2009 but he worked with Gaga in 2011 and the one RedOne-produced song that got released tanked. Yet y'all still think he can get her hits nowadays. HA.

this had a lot of different reasons.
1) It was overshadowed by BTW the single because she released it too early.
2) People were starting to find her preachy and annoying
3) She didn't hype it as much as BTW
4) the previous single was about gay rights which turned off a lot of the GP
5) it was a song titled 'judas' and was released in the week of Easter.

[19SLAYty9]

Originally posted by Venus Temple

You honestly think Starships is bigger than BR, PF, JD...?

It was. It may not have peaked as high but it still broke the vevo record and was in the top 10 for 21 weeks.... longer than just dance/br/pf/etc. It also didn't peak in it's debut week.... it didnd't even peak in it's debut month.

[Dämon]

Originally posted by 19SLAYty9

this had a lot of different reasons.
1) It was overshadowed by BTW the single because she released it too early.
2) People were starting to find her preachy and annoying
3) She didn't hype it as much as BTW
4) the previous single was about gay rights which turned off a lot of the GP
5) it was a song titled 'judas' and was released in the week of Easter.

Kii.

1. If a song is a guaranteed hit, it'll smash (see: Dark Horse smashing on its own)
2. Doesn't make sense, cause then she went on to have her biggest opening week ever, both in the US and WW, and then went on to have the biggest tour of her career
3. Kii.
4. See point 2.
5. That could be iT, or simply people didn't like the song.

[Poe Dameron]

Originally posted by Cyanide

Everyone pay close attention to Ruth Hogben and Brandon Maxwell's activity over the next few days as they're the only two I know are 100% confirmed to be involved. Not allowed to say anything else. I work really closely/have worked at The Collective Shift, so draw in the lines from there.

Is this nick4bty's dupe?

[SHICD]

Originally posted by Aden

RedOne's last hit was in 2009 but he worked with Gaga in 2011 and the one RedOne-produced song that got released tanked. Yet y'all still think he can get her hits nowadays. HA.

We've always said that Gaga and RedOne need each other to be successful.

[19SLAYty9]

Originally posted by Dämon

Kii.

1. If a song is a guaranteed hit, it'll smash (see: Dark Horse smashing on its own)
2. Doesn't make sense, cause then she went on to have her biggest opening week ever, both in the US and WW, and then went on to have the biggest tour of her career
3. Kii.
4. See point 2.
5. That could be iT, or simply people didn't like the song.

but she had her biggest opening week ever b the gays and that 99 cent deal. billboard even said she would've sold like 600k without the deal.

[Dämon]

Originally posted by 19SLAYty9

but she had her biggest opening week ever b the gays and that 99 cent deal. billboard even said she would've sold like 600k without the deal.

Lmfaoooo are you a troll? Even without the deal, it'd still be her highest opening week in the US AND WW. And a mess at you claiming "the gays" caused her to have her biggest opening week ever YET you literally said Judas wasn't successful because BTW turned off the GP for being too gay. why didn't "the gays" support judas then.

[Aden]

Starships being bigger than Poker Face and Bad Romance

Bye

[State of Grace.]

[Car Radio]

Originally posted by Aden

Starships being bigger than Poker Face and Bad Romance

Bye

[H-I-M]

Originally posted by Dämon

Biggest hit of their career

DJWS - 2013
Mark - 2014/2015
Bloodpop - 2014/2015
RedOne - 2009.

Thoughts?

This is truly getting embarrassing. Yes RedOne had his biggest hits early in his career, which also applies to Gaga by the way (drag your own fave a bit), but at the same time he was able to continuously spam worldwide hits after hits from 2008 to 2012-13.

While most of the other producers you named have what, two hits ? So how's that supposed to prove anything ?

That's like saying that DJ Seeb (I took a pill in ibiza) is overall more relevant and successful than all the producers on your list because he just had his only hit, in 2016.

[LadyGagaStan93]

Originally posted by Dämon

Lmfaoooo are you a troll? Even without the deal, it'd still be her highest opening week in the US AND WW. And a mess at you claiming "the gays" caused her to have her biggest opening week ever YET you literally said Judas wasn't successful because BTW turned off the GP for being too gay. why didn't "the gays" support judas then.

It is you can tell by how the posts are formatted in here. Just trying to rile everyone up dddd.

[Brunette Ambition]

ronson will prevail in the end.

[Dämon]

Originally posted by LadyGagaStan93

It is you can tell by how the posts are formatted in here. Just trying to rile everyone up dddd.

I see how it is.

[H-I-M]

Keep quoting and getting your life at that obvious troll

[Solar]

Originally posted by H-I-M

This is truly getting embarrassing. Yes RedOne had his biggest hits early in his career, which also applies to Gaga by the way (drag your own fave a bit), but at the same time he was able to continuously spam worldwide hits after hits from 2008 to 2012-13.

While most of the other producers you named have what, two hits ? So how's that supposed to prove anything ?

That's like saying that DJ Seeb (I took a pill in ibiza) is overall more relevant and successful than all the producers on your list because he just had his only hit, in 2016.

Whoops just in time for my after lunch tea



But I get the Mark Ronson preference. He might not be a consistent commercial force in music but the critics simply adore his music and production.

[Komet blu]

Originally posted by H-I-M

This is truly getting embarrassing. Yes RedOne had his biggest hits early in his career, which also applies to Gaga by the way (drag your own fave a bit), but at the same time he was able to continuously spam worldwide hits after hits from 2008 to 2012-13.

While most of the other producers you named have what, two hits ? So how's that supposed to prove anything ?

That's like saying that DJ Seeb (I took a pill in ibiza) is overall more relevant and successful than all the producers on your list because he just had his only hit, in 2016.

clock a bit with that logical thinking.

[Dämon]

Originally posted by H-I-M

This is truly getting embarrassing. Yes RedOne had his biggest hits early in his career, which also applies to Gaga by the way (drag your own fave a bit), but at the same time he was able to continuously spam worldwide hits after hits from 2008 to 2012-13.

While most of the other producers you named have what, two hits ? So how's that supposed to prove anything ?

That's like saying that DJ Seeb (I took a pill in ibiza) is overall more relevant and successful than all the producers on your list because he just had his only hit, in 2016.

And nowhere did I claim otherwise. I did claim, however, RedOne's last hit was released in 2012, which is a fact, while all those I named scored a hit afterwards.

overall more relevant and successful than all the producers on your list because he just had his only hit, in 2016

Again, where did I claim that. You're just twisting my post, when I didn't talk about relevance or which had the most "successful career". I stated facts, and you understand what you wanna understand.

I have more faith in them than in RedOne, since they got a hit in the CURRENT state of the music industry, not ****ing 4 years ago. Especially after listening to his new song, which is just generic garbage.

[romonster]

Someone brought up Cyanide's post in our base:

Originally posted by Cyanide

Everyone pay close attention to Ruth Hogben and Brandon Maxwell's activity over the next few days as they're the only two I know are 100% confirmed to be involved. Not allowed to say anything else. I work really closely/have worked at The Collective Shift, so draw in the lines from there.

and this was mindtrappa's response:

Probably related to the meetings she's been having this week. The Collective Shift produce music videos for the most part, all of which are directed by Inez and Vinoodh.