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Album: Lady Gaga - 'Joanne'
Member Since: 5/19/2012
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Originally posted by J a y
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I know!
It's so good on speakers!
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Opacho
While those who are open to various music genres, not just 'BOPTZ xDD!' are thrilled with what we've heard so far  |
Oh my god. Everyone needs to shut up with this sort of logic. It's such a cop-out from any real criticism of this era.
There are LOTS of people with very diverse taste in music who don't love the Joanne era so far  It has nothing to do with genre... it has everything to do with being bland and anonymous. Million Reasons could 100% be any Katy or Rihanna piano ballad (and Monsters would probably be dragging it).
If anything, I suspect the monsters who are going "you just DON'T UNDERSTAND! because it's NOT POP! YOU OBVIOUSLY WANT BOPS!" are the ones who listen to little beyond top 40 pop. Of course this sounds revolutionary if you don't listen to other music, even though going acoustic or even country is a pretty worn-out career move.
Like, I'm ****ing cackling at some Monsters in here. Usernames that basically scream RED_ONE_STAN97 and PutYourPawsUp4Ever, yet now they're claiming they always secretly wished Gaga lost this costume and did this kind of music? 
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by J a y
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You are really the most intelligent and well-spoken person here always coming with reasonable arguments. 
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 42,704
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Originally posted by Aciid
I'm so devastated still. I wanted more PI's. I wanted rock, I wanted alt pop. Why did the country influence turn out to be true UGH. It's just not my cup of tea. I pray that the rest of the album is different. Please let it be.
And I was one of those people that defended her new direction and thought she was doing the right thing  |
There are a bunch of other tracks left so maybe you'll like them more?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Girl ayo is stuck in my head and i've only listened to it twice
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Opacho
It's so funny to me how the only ones who hate the album so far are the ones who months ago had a problem with me insinuating that this album might end up being not dance, more rock and ballad filled 
While those who are open to various music genres, not just 'BOPTZ xDD!' are thrilled with what we've heard so far
Maturity, okie dokie!!!
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MR is just kinda terrible, I'm a Dope stan but that was a true dirge.
PI is kinda her best lead single though.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by H-I-M
Don't bother, they think that for us a good song = uptempo dance EDM, yet some of us have songs like Bloody Mary in her top10 discography.
Basically if you're not slayed mama by what she has released so far this era, you don't want her to grow and you're not open to different genres, because let's be honest, Gaga can do no wrong.
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I mean BM is hardly an experimental song but yes this is a good sentiment
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
Posts: 21,188
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If anything Gags is just trying to help bridge the gap between those "pop only gays" (not referring to Aciid, just the majority of her fan base) and other music genres while also making the kind of music she likes.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I'm loving 2016. So many people crying over Lemonade, ANTI, and Joanne being a **** you to their pop discography, but I'm loving it!
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Member Since: 11/5/2010
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saw this on posted on popheads. a comment found from youtube:
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"We want 2010 Gaga." 2010 Gaga was literally a character that embodied the idea of fame, so the music was catchy but generic. It was purposefully flashy and shallow, like her costumes. Fame Monster Gaga got a bit darker, her performances started to make a point. Born This Way was her attempt to begin to use her fame as a platform for good and activism. Fame wasn't all bad - it gave her a new position to reach people. ArtPop was experimental, trying to create pop music that wasn't generic but actually art (not my favorite album, but I appreciated what she was trying to do). Cheek to Cheek was part of her reinvention, along with The Sound of Music tribute and AHS - show the world that Gaga wasn't just flash and glitter but an actual talented human being. And Joanne, it seems, is her more personal album, stripping away the character of Gaga to who she really is.
Guys, artists are allowed to reinvent themselves. You don't have to like it, but instead of complaining she should go back to a different place in her life and career, just relisten to the music she has made that you like. If you like The Fame, listen to that album all you want. But don't discredit her journey or tell her you don't want "Joanne" because you want another "Fame." She's past that character in her life.
And honestly, who cares if this flops? She has established other outlets for her creative energy that go beyond creating pop music. She'll be just fine. So let's chill with the negativity and let's all listen to the Gaga we prefer. I prefer this Gaga to the previous incarnations, but if you like a different Gaga, that's great.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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ANYWAY, will MOTHA be doing other masterpieces or just these three on her dive bar tour? Any tea on that?
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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I'm perfectly okay with people not liking this era musically so far,
but please don't say that we're pretending to like it. The other way
around too, don't say that someone is illiterate for not liking the music.
Just state your opinion and let it go. Thank you.
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
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I feel like we're gonna get Sinner's Prayer or Ayo next week
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Member Since: 12/7/2008
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So, Mark Ronson wrote/produced all songs except Come To Mama
BloodPop: Ayo, John Wayne, Dancin In Circles, Perfect Illusion, Million Reasons
Hilary Lindsey: Ayo, Grigio Girls, Million Reasons
Emile Haynie: Come to Mama
Beck: Dancin in Circles
Florence Welch: Hey Girl
Kevin Parker: Perfect Illusion
Ronson only: Diamond Heart, Hey Girl, Joanne
Josh Homme (guitars): Diamond Heart, Perfect Illusion, John Wayne
Father John Misty: Sinner's Prayer, Come to Mama
Thomas Brenneck : Sinner's Prayer
RedOne: Angel Down
Gaga only: Just Another Day
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Aciid
I'm so devastated still. I wanted more PI's. I wanted rock, I wanted alt pop. Why did the country influence turn out to be true UGH. It's just not my cup of tea. I pray that the rest of the album is different. Please let it be.
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Perfect Illusion was definitely a bait-and-switch. I got so excited when Kevin Parker was working on this album, but then it was only one song, d.
Did you listen to Sinner's Prayer and A-Yo yet? They're not what you were hoping for, but they still sound promising.
At any rate, I'll continue to anticipate her eventual rock album, d. It's clearly the genre she's most naturally suited for... ah well.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Jeiboy
Nnn this MELTDOWN..KII
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It's not a meltdown, it's more disappointment than anything. It's just weird when a fave you've followed since the very beginning releases music you don't like for the first time and switches everything you thought she was in a punch.
Lemme just focus on PI for now and hope for more tracks I like.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by H-I-M
Don't bother, they think that for us a good song = uptempo dance EDM, yet some of us have songs like Bloody Mary in her top10 discography.
Basically if you're not slayed mama by what she has released so far this era, you don't want her to grow and you're not open to different genres, because let's be honest, Gaga can do no wrong.
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Of course she can do wrong.
Bad Kids
Judas,
Everything on The Fame sans its singles and Summerboyg
90% of ARTPOP
It's just that... some people enjoy good music regardless of what genre it is, and some (like you H-I-M, I still remember our little convo about how you hate everything urban and hip-hop) dismiss songs if they're not the same exact **** the artist they latched onto's been doing since the moment they started stanning them.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Emile Haynie has produced Come to Mama? Excited for this 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Saskia
saw this on posted on popheads. a comment found from youtube:
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It's really underappreciated and lowkey her best album, but no, no it was not.
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Member Since: 5/13/2011
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Originally posted by infrared
I'm loving 2016. So many people crying over Lemonade, ANTI, and Joanne being a **** you to their pop discography, but I'm loving it!
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Then we'll need just Katy to complete the **** you circle of 2016. 
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