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Discussion: the essential janet.
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janet. is like the blueprint to so many of my favourite albums since which is why I love it so much. Rhythm Nation is obviously one of the best albums of all time as well though so I like the two pretty much equally.
Both are better than anything from her contemporary and absolute legendary albums.
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Control > janet. > Rhythm Nation > Unbreakable > Velvet Rope (I guess) > Damita Jo > All For You > Janet Jackson > Discipline > 40YO > Delta Street
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Quality wise:
Control = RN >>> Velvet Rope > janet. > Unbreakable >>> Damita > AFY > the rest
My faves:
TVR > RN > Control > Unbreakable tbh > janet. > Damita Jo > the rest
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RN1814 > TVR > Control > janet. > Unbreakable > Damita Jo > All For You > Janet Jackson > 20. Y.O. > Dream Street > Dick
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Control > Rhythm Nation 1814 > The Velvet Rope > janet. > Unbreakable > Damita Jo > All for You > Janet Jackson > 20YO > Dream Street > Discipline
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Control is the one with the least filler/useless tracks so I love it. janet. could've been her best if the weaker tracks were replaced by the b-sides.
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Control is really fun, and pretty much filler-free which is fantastic. But artistically, I feel like janet. is more ambitious and I respect that.
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And while we're still doing the endless album ranking debates we agree this is her best video right?
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Originally posted by Mirrorwriting
Control is really fun, and pretty much filler-free which is fantastic. But artistically, I feel like janet. is more ambitious and I respect that.
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TVR is most ambitious lol, it takes all of janet.'s shallow attempts at emotional intimacy and social awareness and articulates them so much better.
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
TVR is most ambitious lol, it takes all of janet.'s shallow attempts at emotional intimacy and social awareness and articulates them so much better.
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Oh yeah definitely. I just find a couple of the TVR tracks a bit weak personally.
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Originally posted by Mirrorwriting
Oh yeah definitely. I just find a couple of the TVR tracks a bit weak personally.
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I think janet. has much higher highs and much lower lows than TVR. There's nothing as bad as "TBTLY" on TVR, its interludes are actually interesting and not just time wasters, and every song has something different to say, while janet. gets sonically and lyrically repetitive in the second half. I dunno, I just think she really poured herself into the album and wanted to make something she could be proud of, while a good bit of janet. feels phoned in.
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janet. is by far the worst of the big 4 albums. I also prefer Damita Jo and All for You but that's just me, I can see why people would disagree. janet. is way more iconic too.
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Originally posted by Subomie
87.
"Clap Your Hands"
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10 - ECNEICSNOC
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8.5 - KingsOfLeon1994
8 - eli's_rhythm, StonedSoulPicnic
7 - Mr. Wonder
6.9 - Buyonce1814
6.5 - rockwitu08
6.43 - °ColdFire°
6 - Vilppu, Alongoria13, Quicksand, conatus, Theus, Tom Vercetti
5 - Smooth Criminal, T.C, TheGreatestX, lovesong
4 - Subomie, HonourableVomit, Aerosol, Reverie, Bitchcraft
3 - maurixrosup, Imogene
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1 - That Bad Eartha, Auburn
0 - Ventitonic
Obviously Rich Harrison was a hot commodity during the Damita Jo sessions, but none of his songs with Janet made the album. Honestly, this song has some cute moments, but that hook is really irritating to my ears. I agree with her decision, I don't think it was strong enough to make the final album.
Aerosol and Auburn agree with me, calling the song "an earache" and "SO annoying", respectively. eli's_rhythm comes to the song's defense, "a jam with a proper Rich Harrison dreamy middle eight", yes that is one of the better parts.
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Rhythm Nation > The Velvet Rope > Control > janet. > Unbreakable > Damita Jo > All for You >> Discipline > Janet Jackson >>> 20 YO > Dream Street
Bolded ones are wonderful, the rest tho.
Rhythm Nation is the best of the best, no doubt. Since I'm kinda a new fan, what's her best tour in your opinion guys?
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Velvet Rope tour is my fave. She was so cool, energetic but relaxed, it had some of her more creative performances, and it's my favorite Janet album so I'm biased.
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RN1814>Control>janet.>TVR>Unbreakable>AFY>Damita Jo=JJ>20 YO>>>>Dream Street>Disappoint
This is the correct order. ATRL needs to calm down with overrating Damita No.
Also if you classify Discipline as a Janet album, but call JJ a mixtape then you are basically trash imo.
Sorry I missed it but Daybreak (which should have been the furthest 20YO track) is really the only song I'm mildly upset about leaving. I'm glad people dragged Unbreakable a bit. It is great, but not big four.
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Quote:
Originally posted by That Bad Eartha
RN1814>Control>janet.>TVR>Unbreakable>AFY>Damita Jo=JJ>20 YO>>>>Dream Street>Disappoint
This is the correct order. ATRL needs to calm down with overrating Damita No.
Also if you classify Discipline as a Janet album, but call JJ a mixtape then you are basically trash imo.
Sorry I missed it but Daybreak (which should have been the furthest 20YO track) is really the only song I'm mildly upset about leaving. I'm glad people dragged Unbreakable a bit. It is great, but not big four.
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Damita Jo is definitely better and more cohesive than All Filler for You and Unlistenable
I actually love AFY and Unbreakable so much I'm just having fun with nicknames lol
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DJ is not nearly as good as Unbearable.
So nice to stan for someone who legitimately released one of her best albums in 2015.
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Damita Jesus is definitely better than End of Career for You.
It may not have great highs but is far more consistent and cohesive than the latter.
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Originally posted by Theus
Damita Jesus is definitely better than End of Career for You.
It may not have great highs but is far more consistent and cohesive than the latter.
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Wow tru!
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