I don't understand how Beyoncé fans can say record sales were more alive in the 80s and 90s and then turn around and say Beyoncé is outselling these 5 females. OF COURSE she is going to outsell them because these 5 ladies are not in their prime any longer.
That's also asking why hasn't Beyoncé been able to outsell her debut album? Why has 4, ST, and even Lemonade sold considerably less than her previous efforts? You cannot gloat about Beyoncé outselling these women who are not in their prime.
But.. did you even read what you quoted? I didn’t say that Beyoncé is selling more than Madonna or Mariah and therefore is on their level, I said that for her generation, Beyoncé is on their level when compared to the sales and impact of her peers.
Bey is going to follow Tina Turner's lead and is just going to do it WAY better, so y'all hunties should prepare yourselves for Beys commercial comeback in her mid 40s, singing James Bond themes, getting Oscars, etc.. Y'all will GAG when Queen is going to be the first female to win 30 Grammys, getting a new prestigious award named after her, selling out tours at 55 while you're favs are vacationing. It's always been like that. See y'all in the future when Bey is going to celebrate 30 years in the industry with another multiplatinum album while your "legends" lost their selling power after 10-15 years in the business. Bey is next level, but keep bathing in nostalgia. Have fun looking at the Beyonce Tower in Melbourne and other statues that will follow. Not everybody has that.
liiiiiike. this.
She is already the most respected popstar out there, and she continually is improving.
I hope some of the hive in here were trolling cause it's one thing to say bey Might join these legendary ladies some day. But to say she as surpassed them Is a slap in the face especially when bey has token a page from each of their blue prints. Like, janet and whitney were the FIRST women of color to have their videos played on MTV, and along with Michael broke down so many racial barriers for black artist today. But, I wouldn't expect a bunch of young people to understand that.
Yall are moronic and full of unjust hate. Beyoncé has been SLAYING the game since 1997! That's 20 years. Lets compare.
Whitney 1985-2005
Mariah 1990-2010
Janet 1982-2002
Madonna 1982-2002
She may not have sold as many raw numbers but she's more respected nd powerful than ANY of them were! Those are FACTS! Whitney didn't hob nob with the leader of the free state. Janet doesn't have the raw ability as her and Mariah was often looked as often cartoonish and "wayward", the exact opposite of Beyoncé's mysterious, serious artistic reputation. Madonna is the ONLY one who's iconism is stronger than Beyoncé's. Say what you want about her but she's at the APEX of her career, 20 years after debuting. Those ladies from earlier all crashed and burned within that same 2 decade mark. (Janet-superbowl, Whitney , Mariah went *******). Even Madonna was the laughing stock of the 90's with the SEX Book and her shenanigans (although she was still omnipresent)> Beyoncé is compared to MICHAEL for a reason. Tey don't even compare her to Tina and Diana anymore and yall are TRYING it with Janet and Mariah of all people Compare them to Rihanna, not BEYONCE. She's treated almost as a national TREASURE. Her album making abilities surpass Whitneys. Her perfromances are more acclaimed than Janets. And her starpower DWARFS Mariahs. Beyoncé is the female incarnate of Michael. With obvious Madonna influence sprinkled on for good measure. Yall did ENTIRELY too much in this thread
Bey is going to follow Tina Turner's lead and is just going to do it WAY better, so y'all hunties should prepare yourselves for Beys commercial comeback in her mid 40s, singing James Bond themes, getting Oscars, etc.. Y'all will GAG when Queen is going to be the first female to win 30 Grammys, getting a new prestigious award named after her, selling out tours at 55 while you're favs are vacationing. It's always been like that. See y'all in the future when Bey is going to celebrate 30 years in the industry with another multiplatinum album while your "legends" lost their selling power after 10-15 years in the business. Bey is next level, but keep bathing in nostalgia. Have fun looking at the Beyonce Tower in Melbourne and other statues that will follow. Not everybody has that.
Yall are moronic and full of unjust hate. Beyoncé has been SLAYING the game since 1997! That's 20 years. Lets compare.
Whitney 1985-2005
Mariah 1990-2010
Janet 1982-2002
Madonna 1982-2002
She may not have sold as many raw numbers but she's more respected nd powerful than ANY of them were! Those are FACTS! Whitney didn't hob nob with the leader of the free state. Janet doesn't have the raw ability as her and Mariah was often looked as often cartoonish and "wayward", the exact opposite of Beyoncé's mysterious, serious artistic reputation. Madonna is the ONLY one who's iconism is stronger than Beyoncé's. Say what you want about her but she's at the APEX of her career, 20 years after debuting. Those ladies from earlier all crashed and burned within that same 2 decade mark. (Janet-superbowl, Whitney , Mariah went *******). Even Madonna was the laughing stock of the 90's with the SEX Book and her shenanigans (although she was still omnipresent)> Beyoncé is compared to MICHAEL for a reason. Tey don't even compare her to Tina and Diana anymore and yall are TRYING it with Janet and Mariah of all people Compare them to Rihanna, not BEYONCE. She's treated almost as a national TREASURE. Her album making abilities surpass Whitneys. Her perfromances are more acclaimed than Janets. And her starpower DWARFS Mariahs. Beyoncé is the female incarnate of Michael. With obvious Madonna influence sprinkled on for good measure. Yall did ENTIRELY too much in this thread
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Whitney 1985-2005
Whitney last album in 2009 debuted at number 1 on the billboard hot 200 and went platinum.
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Mariah 1990-2010
Mariah Has a very successful Vegas residency, not to mention she has her children's book
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Janet 1982-2002
Her most recent album debuted at number 1 on the billboard 200
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Madonna 1982-2002
you're kidding right in 2008 she had the best selling female tour of all time and in 2012 she scored the second best selling female tour of all time. this was all WAY past her prime.
you do realize there will be a time where beyonce won't be dominate on the charts. in fact radio hasn't messed with her since IASF. Not only is it funny that you try to discredit these legendary women to uplift beyonce yet all these women have albums, impact and eras bigger than beyonce. Also beyonce has praised and cited each of these women as a influence, as has stated FROM HER MOUTH that they are the reasons she wants to sing and if it wasn't for these ladies she wouldn't be where is was today.
Beyoncé on whitney
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Beyonce recalls meeting Houston when she was 15. "She was the ultimate legend. The ultimate woman," writes the new mom.
"Not only was she confident, poised, stunningly beautiful and intelligent, but she was sincere and kind. She took the time to make everyone feel like they were very important to her."
More than admiration for her kindness, Beyonce says she is most enamored with Houston's legendary pipes. "Her voice was perfect. Strong but soothing. Soulful and classic. Her vibrato, her cadence, her control," she says.
And what singer didn't grow up practicing to Whitney Houston songs? Beyonce certainly did. The singer adds, "I, like every singer, always wanted to be just like her...She is our queen and she opened doors and provided a blueprint for all of us."
Beyoncé on janet
Beyoncé on Madonna
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"I think about Madonna and how she took all of the great things she achieved and started the label and developed other artists. But there are not enough of those women
Not to mention her haunted video is clearly inspired by Madonna
Beyoncé on Mariah
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Beyoncé has repeatedly said that Mariah was the reason she wanted to be a singer when she was just a teenager belting out Vision of Love in her room
I suggest you look up these women history before you come for them again
Yup. She's inspiring all of these new artists AND all of these Big names in Pop Girl music are fans of her work. (Let me add co-signs from legends Luther Vandross, Stevie Wonder, Aretha Franklin, Boys II Men, Tina Turner, Prince, Patti Labelle, Tony, etc..just add to her reputation)
Whitney last album in 2009 debuted at number 1 on the billboard hot 200 and went platinum.
Mariah Has a very successful Vegas residency, not to mention she has her children's book
Her most recent album debuted at number 1 on the billboard 200
you're kidding right in 2008 she had the best selling female tour of all time and in 2012 she scored the second best selling female tour of all time. this was all WAY past her prime.
you do realize there will be a time where beyonce won't be dominate on the charts. in fact radio hasn't messed with her since IASF. Not only is it funny that you try to discredit these legendary women to uplift beyonce yet all these women have albums, impact and eras bigger than beyonce. Also beyonce has praised and cited each of these women as a influence, as has stated FROM HER MOUTH that they are the reasons she wants to sing and if it wasn't for these ladies she wouldn't be where is was today.
Beyoncé on whitney
Beyoncé on janet
Beyoncé on Madonna
Not to mention her haunted video is clearly inspired by Madonna
Beyoncé on Mariah
I suggest you look up these women history before you come for them again
I was referring to all 6 of these ladies slaying consistently for 20 years! Reread what I said. You wear a Beyoncé avi to troll ATRL. Just chill. What did she ever do to you
beyonce is definitely bigger than Janet EVER was, but not the other girls mentioned... yet!
And that's the kicker!
All these ladies are FAR past their prime and Beyoncé is literally about to scoot Madonna off the touring throne. She's sold more records than Janet in her 20 year career. Won more Grammys than Mariah. And managed to be in CHARGE of her career. Unlike Whitney who was majorly Clive's student. People argue Matthew was that to Beyoncé but unlike Clive, Matthew allowed Beyoncé to execute her own ideas along as they stuck to his marketing plans. Whether people like it or not, Beyoncé is considered an AWARD winning songwriter. Whitney was FORCED to not write songs (FACTS!). The mere fact that this thread has over 50 ACTUAL pages proves that people have been waiting for this conversation. And its happening Sh'es already been coronated as the QUEEN of entertainment. Just give it up
It's hilarious that you said Madonna was done in 2002 when she dominated the world with Confessions, had big hits like Hung Up and 4 Minutes, a 400m grossing tour and a 300m grossing tour. Even in this decade Beyoncé can't even achieve half of what Madonna did at her third decade and B's supposedly at her prime. The double standard from the hive is pathetically ridiculous.