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Celeb News: Janet Jackson: I spotted Lady Gaga first; I want a duet
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
@ people brining up Janet's sales from back in the Dark Ages.
Anyway, Gaga has already collaborated with Elton John, a bigger legend than Janet, so...
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If Elton's sales from the '70s and '80s are accountable today, so are Janet's from the '90s.
They collaborated? Did they make a song for her new album? Random, but Janet has in fact collab'd with Elton also btw
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Originally posted by Lasers
Janet has had her time. But when she was in her era she shat.
Do you actually think when Lady Gaga turns 40+ she can still be able to compete with a younger generation?
if so, your completely delusional.
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Where the **** in my post did I say that?
Besides, when your brother's a legend, it's a lot easier to get a huge recording deal.
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See, this is why I only use Beyonce, Alicia Keys, etc. (of all the artists today).
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Originally posted by inspiration4
Alternatively...if Janet can at least match the worldwide impact Gaga has had, then we can talk...
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Oh no you did not.
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
I would be the first to say that GaGa's era rival's anybody's peak, including Janet's. She may not have a movie etc going on but that's because she's new, Janet was a veteran--plus she had her family--by the time she starred in Poetic Justice.
GaGa did it all on her own, and she is every bit as big as any new superstar can be. The only people bigger were Madonna during Like a Virgin/True Blue, MJ during Thriller and maybe a couple others like Whitney (Bodyguard) and Prince (Purple Rain). It's obvious that GaGa will one day be in their realm.
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The site's biggest Janet stan throws a curved ball and shuts DOWN those who are truly delusional
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Oh no you did not.
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see your post above
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Where the **** in my post did I say that?
Besides, when your brother's a legend, it's a lot easier to get a huge recording deal.
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When Janet got her contract with A&M, Michael had not even finished recording Thriller. She got signed because of Joe, same reason Michael got a solo career.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Where the **** in my post did I say that?
Besides, when your brother's a legend, it's a lot easier to get a huge recording deal.
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your saying that we are bringing up Janet's sales from the "dark ages". That's because Janet came out over twenty years ago. of course Janet at 40 isnt gonna be as popular as Janet in her 20's.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
Where the **** in my post did I say that?
Besides, when your brother's a legend, it's a lot easier to get a huge recording deal.
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LMAO! Janet got a record deal long before Michael was labeled a "legend" or as acclaimed as he is today. If you're insinuating Janet is/was only popular because of her family/Michael, then you need to check the stamps. Janet's first two records were flops, and Michael was pretty popular circa 1982. So...
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Originally posted by inspiration4
The site's biggest Janet stan throws a curved ball and shuts DOWN those who are truly delusional
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.........Sit down.
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
I would be the first to say that GaGa's era rival's anybody's peak, including Janet's. She may not have a movie etc going on but that's because she's new, Janet was a veteran--plus she had her family--by the time she starred in Poetic Justice.
GaGa did it all on her own, and she is every bit as big as any new superstar can be. The only people bigger were Madonna during Like a Virgin/True Blue, MJ during Thriller and maybe a couple others like Whitney (Bodyguard) and Prince (Purple Rain). It's obvious that GaGa will one day be in their realm.
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You've been smoking so i'll let that one slide honey, she had a re release when Janet did it all with one album and no re release. Her chart run is unmatchable and her sales were through the roof. If you're talking impact then okay, but sales wise no one of today can match the legends at their peaks.
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Originally posted by HarrySapphire
...and whose fault was that?
You can't expect your label to send your maid to sing for you
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I don't know if I would put the blame on Janet for the Discipline era. While it was doomed from the start--her career has been in a downward spiral since 2004 and only her true fans really cared--Feedback was leaked in December and they didn't get her on TV until February. Feedback was the most-downloaded song (illegally) ever at the time but all the buzz had faded by the time they actually started promoting it. It had a decent peak for a solo Janet song (her best, in fact, since Someone to Call My Lover), but it fell off quickly and so did the album.
She promoted for about a week, and then L.A. Reid in all his brilliance decided that "Rock With U" would be the next single (and not "LUV" which Janet wanted). Since it flopped (even on the Dance charts), they stopped putting money into the project. It could have at least been certified Gold if L.A. had followed Janet's savvy. Ironically, LUV outpeaked Rock With U on the Hot 100 Bubbling Under.
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Originally posted by Satellites
You've been smoking so i'll let that one slide honey, she had a re release when Janet did it all with one album and no re release. Her chart run is unmatchable and her sales were through the roof. If you're talking impact then okay, but sales wise no one of today can match the legends at their peaks.
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Of course not, that's not a fair comparison. But TF+TFM have sold about the same as Control, I think.
I don't think GaGa has had some kind of runaway impact that puts Janet to shame, you're probably right about it being on RN1814/janet. level. Since I wasn't alive then, I would have no idea of how dominating those albums really were. I do know that RN1814 was the best-selling album of 1990, it spawned #1 hits in three different calendar years and is the only album ever to have seven top five singles. Of course, the RN tour was also the highest-grossing debut tour of all time and I'm shocked that, despite inflation, that record is still unbroken.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
Of course not, that's not a fair comparison. But TF+TFM have sold about the same as Control, I think.
I don't think GaGa has had some kind of runaway impact that puts Janet to shame, you're probably right about it being on RN1814/janet. level. Since I wasn't alive then, I would have no idea of how dominating those albums really were. I do know that RN1814 was the best-selling album of 1990, it spawned #1 hits in three different calendar years and is the only album ever to have seven top five singles. Of course, the RN tour was also the highest-grossing debut tour of all time and I'm shocked that, despite inflation, that record is still unbroken.
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Okay then so what the hell was your previous post about? I said no one today can rivals legends at their peaks and you jumped in and said The Fame era was bigger than the .janet era.
I know they can't be compared which is why I posted it all to show the major difference when inspiration4 said Gagas 2 years have been greater than Janets 25.
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Originally posted by ashuduff
I love how Eli comes in here and says one word to shut the haters up.
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But yeah it looks very fake to me. Janet doesn't say "awesome." Metro UK??
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It's hard to compare GaGa's peak to Janet's peak, since the climate is so different (back then, album sales were more dominate than single sales, but now, single sales are more dominate than album sales). I think my problem is trying to discredit Janet because she's no longer relevant. No artist stays relevant forever; when GaGa's gimmick runs out, you will see. (I really GaGa by the way).
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Originally posted by Satellites
Okay then so what the hell was your previous post about? I said no one today can rivals legends at their peaks and you jumped in and said The Fame era was bigger than the .janet era.
I know they can't be compared which is why I posted it all to show the major difference when inspiration4 said Gagas 2 years have been greater than Janets 25.
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I didn't know he said that last part That's just silly.
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People are cruel towards has beens.
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Originally posted by fabbriche
People are cruel towards has beens.
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Yes, a Mariah fan should know.
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Originally posted by Satellites
Okay then so what the hell was your previous post about? I said no one today can rivals legends at their peaks and you jumped in and said The Fame era was bigger than the .janet era.
I know they can't be compared which is why I posted it all to show the major difference when inspiration4 said Gagas 2 years have been greater than Janets 25.
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Youy read that the wrong way. While i was refrencing Gaga about two year peak i was not referencing Janet on the "50 years surviving the industry". Obviously she's done better than survive
I was just attempting to point out that longevity is NOT everything. You can easily shave the last 15 years off the career's of Michael and Madonna's carrer's and their impact remains. Therefore, my point was that specific "peaks" can be rather indictive of an artist's overall impact depending on how massive the peak is
EDIT: but there's no definitive way too measure something as subjective as "impact". But i will say i'm convinved that if both janet and Gaga retired from the game now, Gaga would have a more significant legacy 20 years from now. My opinion? Yes. But i'm pretty sure i'm right
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