Has anyone noticed that the movie industry is far less colors ruck than music. To think both Viola Davis and Lupita, Kerry and Taraji can share a spotlight you haven't seen that for years in music.
'Tinashe isn't pushing herself'
LordT I've heard it all.
Home girl writes all her songs, produces them not to mention she actually performs on stage with her all, unlike your faves. Shes been in the industry since she was a child.
She's had several mixtapes and her record label is ****.
She's determined, she's constantly saying she will own the year - the background on her phone is even a ****ing Grammy
Tinashe pushes and pushes herself -- her mother is also on Twitter encouraging fans to request her songs on the radio.
Even if Tinashe doesn't 'push herself' it's obvious she's at a disadvantage as a black female
It's ridiculous
Yeah, I feel like light-skinned privilege has gotten worse in the last 10 years and it really sucks. Not only that but it's hard for any artist period to really solidy their careers currently, there's a lot of what I like to call "filler artists" in the mainstream that are very flash in the pan but are successful and the truly talented ones are done dirty. I'm going off topic here but seriously the music industry needs to be revamped.
All of this. There's so much against 'darker' skinned female soloists and anyone who tries to say there isn't is clearly ignorant or choosing not to believe what's happening right in front of them. I don't think it'll be changing anytime soon either, unfortunately
It's funny because 20 years ago you had Toni Braxton, Brandy, TLC, En Vogue, Whitney etc. Sharing the spotlight that's like gone today. It's funny.
Maybe I'm remembering incorrectly but didn't we have POCs dominating the industry not that long ago in the 2000's, in terms of top 10 singles/albums? Although using POC is doing too much cause they were mostly black from what I remember. And mostly male
It's like they're only a few spots available for light skinned women in mainstream Hollywood. If you are dark skinned forget about it, unless you're portraying a slave or something demeaning, you won't be taken seriously (ie. Lupita)
Anyone who is saying Tinashe's music is whack hasn't listened to her debut. Aquarius is one of the best albums I've heard and AHOD flopping is criminally unjust.
Y'all are mentioning the whole "millionaire" thing for Zendaya. She's a celebrity it's expected for her to be rich. What I meant was she's not winning in her fields right now. Yes she might be a singer but where are her hits ?? how many copies did her last album sell? Same goes for all the other occupations she has. It's not fair to put her in that list with Beyonce and Rihanna.
Has anyone noticed that the movie industry is far less colors ruck than music. To think both Viola Davis and Lupita, Kerry and Taraji can share a spotlight you haven't seen that for years in music.
This!!!!
I guess it's because the movie industry needs a variety of actresses/actors for every specific role... 'black sassy woman' isn't cutting it anymore but you're right TBH!
This is the reason why I don't think my dearest Normani will cement her status as the Beyoncé of 5H. Everything is against her, the type of music she'll end up releasing will be Urban Pop like Tinashe's and the industry seems to have a thing for white-passing POC and just white female soloists - if you look at the last two girls to have properly broken out (Ariana and Meghan) it's obvious.
It is ironic, ten years ago I could have easily said Mani would be so successful and selling records easily but it seems unlikely that she will at this point. No matter how good her music will be.
There are so many talented female soloists who are struggling to gather radio support e.g Tinashe, Ciara, Sevyn and FKA Twigs.
There's always privilege involved, but 9/10 it comes down to the material. None of these women make the type of pop music top 40 plays.
A lot of truth to this, but I feel like the advocates need to be strongly directing it at the labels, producers, etc. It's not the audience that's opposed to diversity, it's the people in charge. And I don't think they get the amount of fumes they deserve at all (a lot of it actually seems to be channeled to those who are advantaging from teh system, but in no way, shape, or form are responsible for it. For example, Macklemore and his Grammy)
Of course, this doesn't mean racism is the only reason Tinashe is struggling to make it huge or Nicki hasn't won a Grammy. Things like talent and marketing absolutely do come into play as well, but it is true that they start off on a disadvantaged playing field when starting out, and particularly when trying to get signed to or pushed by a label.
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Originally posted by Mike91
There's always privilege involved, but 9/10 it comes down to the material. None of these women make the type of pop music top 40 plays.
Privilege mainly plays a role behind the scenes, like with getting pushed by a label or signed to one. That's where the major disadvantages come in. Most listeners don't care whatsoever about the artist's race as long as they like the song
It's like they're only a few spots available for light skinned women in mainstream Hollywood. If you are dark skinned forget about it, unless you're portraying a slave or something demeaning, you won't be taken seriously (ie. Lupita)
A lot of truth to this, but I feel like the advocates need to be strongly directing it at the labels, producers, etc. It's not the audience that's opposed to diversity, it's the people in charge. And I don't think they get the amount of fumes they deserve at all (a lot of it actually seems to be channeled to those who are advantaging from teh system, but in no way, shape, or form are responsible for it. For example, Macklemore and his Grammy)
Of course, this doesn't mean racism is the only reason Tinashe is struggling to make it huge or Nicki hasn't won a Grammy. Things like talent and marketing absolutely do come into play as well, but it is true that they start off on a disadvantaged playing field when starting out, and particularly when trying to get signed to or pushed by a label.
Privilege mainly plays a role behind the scenes, like with getting pushed by a label or signed to one. That's where the major disadvantages come in. Most listeners don't care whatsoever about the artist's race as long as they like the song
!!!!!!!! I don't think people realize that the audience does NOT care about skin color when listening to music. Some of the biggest hits of the year have been by black males.
People want what's great. And while what is considered "great" is debatable, people still flock to what they want to hear. Unfortunately R&B isn't popular on the charts right now. It's not as much a color thing as much as it is a sound thing.
There's always privilege involved, but 9/10 it comes down to the material. None of these women make the type of pop music top 40 plays.
Ciara can lol
Body Party & I'm Out??
And Tinashe: Party Favours (guaranteed if ****ing Selena Gomez sang that it would've been a minor hit), Bet, All Hands On Deck, Feels Like Vegas can EASILY be a hit
And Mike91, you telling me if Adele was a black woman, she would be this successful? Since you claim the audience doesn't care about colour when it comes to music?
!!!!!!!! I don't think people realize that the audience does NOT care about skin color when listening to music. Some of the biggest hits of the year have been by black males.
People want what's great. And while what is considered "great" is debatable, people still flock to what they want to hear. Unfortunately R&B isn't popular on the charts right now. It's not as much a color thing as much as it is a sound thing.