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Discussion: Why isn't South America a global force?
Member Since: 4/24/2012
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Originally posted by Dancefloor
I'm from Mexico (northern territory) and let me tell you, we don't have many rights. The center, especially the capital, is a little bit more friendly, but people are still not open to it. It is getting better though with newer generations, but people don't really like to speak about it. No one wants to open a debate because they're too uncomfortable. I think that's also an issue with Latin America, people would rather turn their heads away to social issues than face them because of fear.
I do think catholicism is a huge issue here. Women get it especially hard. Abortion is seen as something awful, yet it is known that the rich, including politicians, take their daughters to do it in clandestine places. They're the first ones to say it should be criminalized when questioned in public. Talk about double morality.
Of course, the biggest issue is still education. A lot of people don't even finish primary school. The government doesn't invest in education appropriately because they KNOW an educated population will actually demand more, so they continue to keep them ignorant. For example, in Mexico, our current, idiotic president spent millions of dollars buying PLASMA TVs that he then gave to the poor so that they could watch their favorite programs. Now you need to know that NOTHING about our television is cultural in any way. Telenovelas, what every teenager and housewife watches, are filled with the same recycled stories about a woman in search of prince charming her savior and it always ends with MARRIAGE because apparently that's what you need to strive for here. Oh, and don't forget to marry in the catholic church. There is even a program called "La Rosa de Guadalupe (Guadalupe's Rose)", which supposedly teaches you some values in order to go to heaven, of course, you have to pray and be catholic to do so. The biggest reason though is that mass media are basically the President's bitches and he is portrayed as the second coming of Christ; independent media outlets are the ones who actually report about corruption, violence, etc., but it is only accessible to people with money/more education via the internet.
I could go on, but it's already long enough to bore, and to be honest I'm getting a little depressed writing about this.
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I think in time people will wake up.
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Member Since: 4/23/2007
Posts: 16,416
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Originally posted by Moonview
Chile:
Inequality between rich people and poor people.
Centralism (Santiago, the capital, has a population of almost 6 million and our country is just 17 million).
Corruption.
Base their economy in exportation of commodities and not in industrialize the country.
Expensive college education.
Although, the country is pretty stable and grow in a good rhythm. It's safe, it doesn't have that much violence and has the highest life expectancy of Latin America, with 81,7 years. They are making changes to have a more equal society and everyone has the same chance to success and go to college, for example.
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Chile and Uruguay are the KING and QUEEN of Latin America, tbh. I know there are some issues, but you guys are years and years ahead of the rest of us.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
Posts: 23,857
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Yeah I agree with everyone else Corruption and all that jazz. Brazil looks like it has the potential to be soooo much more too
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 5,444
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Originally posted by Lexiel
It all boils down to COLONIALISM.
The way our countries were depleted of their natural resources and our societies shaped with the mixed cultures of African slaves, aboriginal natives and European invadors created an amalgalm that is very heterogeneous in a society that is still very young in its independence and was left to fend for itself by corrupt and power hungry leaders after the invadors from Spain, Portugal and other countries took what they wanted and left.
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Came here to say something like that
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 5,444
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Gosh, I get so sad/frustrated knowing Brazil could be big
And seeing this thread just reminded of that
Sometimes I just think it's all a joke
Like, police officers watching a man beat a woman and saying they can't do anything; corrupt politicians ****ING RULING THE CHAMBER OF DEPUTIES, presidents who don't make any sense...
I mean
WTF???
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Member Since: 11/1/2011
Posts: 936
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Originally posted by igninton
Sis...
they're religious af.
Religion is really important there and it's impregnated in their culture (homophobia is really a thing there). Also crime is really significant there.
Criminal, homophobic YET religious people. Literally the Western Middle East. (I'm not saying everyone in the Middle East is a criminal, y'all know what I mean, do not take my words out of context).
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homophobia isnt really a thing here, gay marriage is legal in almost every country
i think the real problem is corruption
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 5,444
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Originally posted by Dazed
homophobia isnt really a thing here, gay marriage is legal in almost every country
i think the real problem is corruption
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WHAT??????
How can you say that? Gays are abused here all the time, wtf
And just cause gay marriage is legal in a country doesn't mean its population is gay friendly
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
Posts: 26,226
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Originally posted by Dancefloor
I'm from Mexico (northern territory) and let me tell you, we don't have many rights. The center, especially the capital, is a little bit more friendly, but people are still not open to it. It is getting better though with newer generations, but people don't really like to speak about it. No one wants to open a debate because they're too uncomfortable. I think that's also an issue with Latin America, people would rather turn their heads away to social issues than face them because of fear.
I do think catholicism is a huge issue here. Women get it especially hard. Abortion is seen as something awful, yet it is known that the rich, including politicians, take their daughters to do it in clandestine places. They're the first ones to say it should be criminalized when questioned in public. Talk about double morality.
Of course, the biggest issue is still education. A lot of people don't even finish primary school. The government doesn't invest in education appropriately because they KNOW an educated population will actually demand more, so they continue to keep them ignorant. For example, in Mexico, our current, idiotic president spent millions of dollars buying PLASMA TVs that he then gave to the poor so that they could watch their favorite programs. Now you need to know that NOTHING about our television is cultural in any way. Telenovelas, what every teenager and housewife watches, are filled with the same recycled stories about a woman in search of prince charming her savior and it always ends with MARRIAGE because apparently that's what you need to strive for here. Oh, and don't forget to marry in the catholic church. There is even a program called "La Rosa de Guadalupe (Guadalupe's Rose)", which supposedly teaches you some values in order to go to heaven, of course, you have to pray and be catholic to do so. The biggest reason though is that mass media are basically the President's bitches and he is portrayed as the second coming of Christ; independent media outlets are the ones who actually report about corruption, violence, etc., but it is only accessible to people with money/more education via the internet.
I could go on, but it's already long enough to bore, and to be honest I'm getting a little depressed writing about this.
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Mexico IS NOT part of south america
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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Besides everything already stated, we were European colonies, they stole huge part of our riches.
Anyway, the Southern Cone nations (Chile, Argentina and Uruguay) may not be a global force, but they have in common high standards of life and very progressive societies. I'm happy with where I live in
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by Swag
Mexico IS NOT part of south america
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He didn't say it was. But he was referring to Latin America and tbh, his experience is valid.
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Member Since: 11/1/2011
Posts: 936
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Originally posted by Phil
WHAT??????
How can you say that? Gays are abused here all the time, wtf
And just cause gay marriage is legal in a country doesn't mean its population is gay friendly
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i was talking about Chile-Argentina, and i know that gays are abused here, but aren't they in almost every country around the world? at least we have rights and if you get abused/offended you could eventually take legal actions so its not like we are in the middle east
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Member Since: 4/24/2012
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I'm learning some things I honestly had no idea about, like the United Fruit Company. OMG. I love my country but we do have a dirty history.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Sunderland 4ever
Corruption.
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This. Chile, Argentina, Brazil, Venezuela constantly dealing with E°MO°TION sized SABBOTAGES makes them impossible to breakthrough.
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