It cracks me up to see people calling the surprise release a great "marketing plan", or "desperate for sales"
In reality, that was such a HUGE risk, one of the biggest made by any pop star, ever. I remember it took over 24 hours for her to appear on iTunes and so many, some even in this thread, said it was because "no one cared", which was believable because of the way she released with no notice or promotion.
She didn't promote her album AT ALL prior to release, I don't care that some biased posters think otherwise, this is a huge reason as to why it was a risk. Who releases an album without a lead single, or a lead video, or a radio release? No one in the pop world.
She released the way she did because she has a fond love of music, not single success, or celebrity like many pop stars, she wanted people to respect her music and listen to it the way it should be listened to.
Her album was a kiss-off to the horrible issue the music industry is currently facing with piracy, or with label control, or with consumption. This was her answer to all of that and she delivered it with an amazing body of work in a very risky, but successful way.
It was a HUGE risk! One of the biggest risk ever! Some stores didn't even sell her album because of its release.
All of this flaming hot tea is just too much for ATRL
And i'm not even a Beyonce hardcore stan.
But i respect real artistry when i see it. I don't let anyone alter my mind, which is what most ATRLers suffer from.
They think they're all that, trying to drag Beyonce for not having a #1 hit in such a long time, just because their fave is keeping it basic, and recycling her past #1 to get even more #1, even though the music is CRAP. And they think they can drag you with those receipts.
Child, learn to accept MUSIC. Learn to ENJOY music, without caring if the song hit #1 or not.
This is why someone has to break the rules, in order to force, in a way, the music industry to start changing things up. Beyonce attempted that, and SUCCEEDED.
You have the audacity to come for Beyoncé when you have that thing in your avatar...LOL
Call me when Britney can...
I fail to see what Britney has to do with this conversation.
Also, performing onstage with one of the most popular and mainstream acts of today sure cements this facade the Hive is trying to promote that she's so over the music industry's calculus ways.
But both songs had impact, even though they didn't go #1. I seriously don't know anyone who's not familiar with Drunk In Love. And i live in a country where Pop Culture is irrelevant.
I mean, the entire VMA crowed was BOPPING and singing along to these songs. That's IMPACT. People are creating memes from those songs. That's IMPACT. People are using references from those songs daily. That's IMPACT.
And you're telling me a #1 on the charts is more important than that?
Yeah, it is for the people who are driven by success, and numbers, and awards, and sales and charts.
REAL artists are more about creating quality music that can have an impact on the world and not just reach a number on the charts and then be forgotten.
I get what you mean by wanting more people to hear those songs. I feel the exact same way with Nicole. As a devoted stan, i know how much she is capable of. I know how much TALENT she possesses and that she's being criminally kept in the shadows and is being underused. But as long as she serves me music that AFFECT me, that INSPIRE me, that's all i can ask as a fan. I still try to educate the people that still think Nicole is a silly bubble gum pop artist and a mediocre singer. But that's all i can do. That's why i don't give a **** anymore if people call her a flop. Yeah, she's a flop, she doesn't have hits, she doesn't have sales. But she has ARTISTRY. She has IMMENSE talent. That is FAR more important than hit songs.
I don't know if you get what I' trying to say.
Being underexposed on TV is helping her actually I think. It's creating the mystery/VIP aura around her and all her appearances become an event because of that.
I fail to see what Britney has to do with this conversation.
Also, performing onstage with one of the most popular and mainstream acts of today sure cements this facade the Hive is trying to promote that she's so over the music industry's calculus ways.
I fail to see what Britney has to do with this conversation.
Also, performing onstage with one of the most popular and mainstream acts of today sure cements this facade the Hive is trying to promote that she's so over the music industry's calculus ways.
What does performing a tribute for Stevie Wonder have to do with that?
Pretty Hurts pop radio release canceled, Flawless remix release butchered, Partition almost went top 20 and people love this song no promo, 7/11 released on her personal page and would've broken the vevo record if released on her vevopage. There were tons of missed opportunities this era because she wasn't trying.
it sounds as though you care more about the chart listings and the fake accolades, like vevo records, more than the body of work and what it represents. just because she didn't feel like aligning to her peers and the way they put out music doesn't mean she's not trying.
You would know, one was overshadowed each time since she went solo and still is.
Can't be overshadowed when name Artist/Female Of An Entire Decade. Make sense. I know that's hard for some of u Brtiney stans, but at least try. Baby steps
Still doesn't change the fact she never had success,fame and popularity that for an example Britney,Gaga,Katy,Miley even Xtina at their peak had
So yeah she got overshadowed each by an other artist
All OF this TEA. Let me go and buy "BIG FAT LIE" in support of Nicole
hahaha. You know what though? It's Nicole who made me see things the way they are with the music industry. She is being very out-spoken about the industry lately and it made me see the light.
She talked about the Pop Prison, and how she wants to OUT-LIVE that phase. And as she grows older, and knows what she wants to do musically, and in relation to the legacy she wants to leave behind, she cares even less about all that crap that most pop girls have to deal with.
An artist's legacy should be based on the quality of their MUSIC. Not by how many #1 they've had. Especially these days, when it's so easy to buy yourself a #1, with streaming, label's help, radio payola and all these social networks.
Beyonce has already out-lived the Pop world, and has build a great legacy, and will continue to build her legacy, without having to worry about sales and #1s. She is much bigger than a few hit songs.
Being underexposed on TV is helping her actually I think. It's creating the mystery/VIP aura around her and all her appearances become an event because of that.
I think it's good for her
She's not interesting in interviews anyways.
I wouldn't say she's no longer trying because she knew what she was doing with that digital drop. She put a lot of effort into the era and making it successful, she wanted people to buy the album not the singles.
I'm sorry, but what makes you think any of the 90s pop girls have anything to prove?
Beyoncé has nothing to prove.
Britney has nothing to prove.
Christina has nothing to prove.
They've already dominated and had the world talking about them, they already had multi-million selling albums and they were the girls to beat in every stage of their careers.
People never stop talking about them, so what makes you think they have something to prove? Just because you don't like one of them?
Log out, drink some tea, go shopping and try to let go of all that bitterness. Every great artist achieves greatness because of their effort and talent.
it sounds as though you care more about the chart listings and the fake accolades, like vevo records, more than the body of work and what it represents. just because she didn't feel like aligning to her peers and the way they put out music doesn't mean she's not trying.
EXACTLY
I hate how a VEVO record is something to brag about these days. Like, are you guys for real?
I will say it again. THIS is why the music industry is declining, and unless more artists start breaking the rules and the standards, like Beyonce did, the music industry will eventually fall to oblivion.
Being underexposed on TV is helping her actually I think. It's creating the mystery/VIP aura around her and all her appearances become an event because of that.
Basically. She spends a lot of money on PR, she'd rather not tarnish her specific image by being over exposed. And it will also tarnish her intrigue. Imo bey hasn't really got a personality. It's better that we see her in small doses, otherwise people will catch on and get bored.