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Celeb News: Gus Kenworthy apologizes for topless cultural appropriation
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
The people in here acting like they have a right to tell minorities what they're allowed to be offended by. Gtfo I can see both sides of the coin, only because it's Halloween. But honestly, if you're not native american, you have absolutely zero say in this.
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The people in here acting like they can tell other people what to dress up as.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by princedonte
So if he was ugly he wouldn't have said anything?
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Like????
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by JonnyCat
If there is no bad intent, then I feel like people should be less sensitive.
I mean, if a little caucasian girl loves the movie Pocahontas or an african-american loves Frozen, I believe they should have the right to dress like one of the characters for Halloween. The photo from this Gus guy though does make it look like he's trying to draw attention and he shouldn't have used a peace-sign.
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I also see it a bit differently when people are dressing up as actual characters. These things always get messy, but I don't think anyone should be chastised for dressing up as Pocahontas/Mulan/Tiana/Elsa or whatever. It gets messy when you have people running around dressed up as an "indian", or "tribal man" or something.
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Member Since: 8/4/2010
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Originally posted by NLX
So if a white person or anyone for that matter dressed up as
an African walking around with a spear and what not for Halloween...
Y'all wouldn't see the problem?
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The costume itself isn't offensive, but why dress up in traditional cultural garments that a culture/people still treat with respect on a night to celebrate mockery. It's almost mocking someone's beliefs/customs at this point.
I know I wouldn't feel right if I saw a a non African person dressed up in tradtional African clothing.
Everything should be great with tolerance.
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Member Since: 9/12/2012
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White people will never understand what it feels like to have your culture appropriated.
They steal from everyone and they can't season their food properly.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
The people in here acting like they have a right to tell minorities what they're allowed to be offended by. Gtfo I can see both sides of the coin in these Halloween debates, mainly because it's Halloween and it's meant to be for fun. But honestly, if you're not native american, you have absolutely zero say in this.
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Going by your logic, straight people shouldn't fight for gay rights?! And men shouldn't fight for gender equality?! Stupid logic.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Can't_M!ss_This
The thing is, really, how far will this go? If you dress up as a witch, you're "making fun of" wiccans and appropriating "witch culture". I wish people would worry about the issues closer to home, like what kind of laws their local politicians are passing and the poverty and homelessness that is invisibly surrounding them
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First of all, that's a completely different scenario, if only because witches =/= Wiccans. The concept of witchcraft predates Wicca.
The problem with stuff like this is that a lot of the time, it just assumes all Native Americans are just one big pastiche to be portrayed. There's evidence of so many tribes and so many variations between those tribes. It's basically the equivalent of slipping on a dashiki and saying you're an "African" for Halloween.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by KyIe
The people in here acting like they can tell other people what to dress up as.
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You mean people get upset when they see their traditional, cultural and sometimes religious garb being taken and used for fun and games? Color me shocked!
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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I'm glad he apologized. I was a bit disappointed when I saw his Instagram post but I'm glad he was able to apologize for it.
Mess at his team deleting the post within an hour it was posted though.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by NLX
Who said anything about blackface?
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i assumed that when you said "a white man dressing up as an african with a spear", you meant a white man who put on black face, tribal wear and a spear
my mistake
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Member Since: 8/4/2010
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
But honestly, if you're not native american, you have absolutely zero say in this.
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That's like saying: "unless you're straight, you don't have a day" or "unless you're a woman, you have no say"
Preposterous! It's called empathy.
I can relate to someone just as much if I can see myself in their shoes.
Y'all sound very ignorant, tbh.
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Member Since: 11/18/2011
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
I also see it a bit differently when people are dressing up as actual characters. These things always get messy, but I don't think anyone should be chastised for dressing up as Pocahontas/Mulan/Tiana/Elsa or whatever. It gets messy when you have people running around dressed up as an "indian", or "tribal man" or something.
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I agree, but I still feel like something shouldn't be turned into more than it really is. Sometimes people can dress a certain way and there honestly is no negative purpose behind it. In this case though, like I said, it does look like he was seeking attention because of the pose and his use of the peace-sign.
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Hmm, he seems like a dumb narcissist.
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Member Since: 5/9/2012
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some Gays wanting people to be open mind about sexuality, but living in the past and always complaining about cultural appropriation, and now just because a halloween costume.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
You mean people get upset when they see their traditional, cultural and sometimes religious garb being taken and used for fun and games? Color me shocked!
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Then stay offended! What do you not understand???? I frankly don't care about what people are offended by and I don't expect other people to care by what I am offended by. Its the United States. And as much as a cliché this argument is it IS a free country. People have the right to be upset with this guy for his costume, but HE HAS THE RIGHT to wear the costume if he really wants to. I'm sick and tired of seeing people like you try and tell other people how to act. Don't interact with this guy if you don't like it.
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Member Since: 8/4/2010
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Honestly, there was nothing to apologize for. Gus just didn't know better because he never had to, so now he does.
This is just a teachable lesson for all to learn from.
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I can't believe all racism here. You guys want people to accept you for being gay, but you can't stand up for other minorities?
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Originally posted by Obsession
First of all, that's a completely different scenario, if only because witches =/= Wiccans. The concept of witchcraft predates Wicca.
The problem with stuff like this is that a lot of the time, it just assumes all Native Americans are just one big pastiche to be portrayed. There's evidence of so many tribes and so many variations between those tribes. It's basically the equivalent of slipping on a dashiki and saying you're an "African" for Halloween.
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Exactly. These people on the Internet don't distinguish between facts and assumptions. If you're wearing a pointy hat, you're making fun of wiccans and blah blah blah. I think it's mostly people bandwagoning onto something.
The thing is though, most groups of people are broken down into a costume. I think that instead of being offended by these things more people should just ignore it. Appropriation isn't causing harm to races and groups. At least not on the scale that governments and terrorist groups are.
It has gotten to the point where a white American woman can be publicly shamed for wearing a hijab. That white American woman could be Muslim. But people just assume she's doing it to make fun or whatever bad. It's way out of hand
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
But honestly, if you're not native american, you have absolutely zero say in this.
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*stands up for minorities*
*silences non native minorities*
* remains hypocritical*
*doesnt realize he is on an internet forum where people can openly discuss issues regardless of their background*
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by gerardsuxx
some Gays wanting people to be open mind about sexuality, but living in the past and always complaining about cultural appropriation, and now just because a halloween costume.
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Every thread this argument comes up and every time is just as f****** cringeworthy. THE DISCRIMINATION OF PEOPLE BASED OFF OF THEIR SEXUAL ORIENTATION IS NO WHERE NEAR COMPARABLE TO PEOPLE WEARING ITEMS THAT ARE CUSTOMARY TO ANOTHER CULTURE. "CULTURAL APPROPRIATION" IS NOT ACTIVELY DISCRIMINATING AGAINST A GROUP NO MATTER WHAT YOU MAY BELIEVE.
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