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News: Hasselback: #BlackLivesMatter is a hate group
Member Since: 4/23/2011
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Originally posted by Chax
You're not going to change hearts but you can educate people, you can change your government and elect leaders who share the same views as you do and those are the people that can enact actual laws/policies that can hold people more accountable than they are right now. Of course though, if that all just seems like too much and like a complete waste of time, by all means continue to tweet away in anger.
EDIT: Also (and this isn't to you specifically just a thought that came to my head), when everything is being called racist and appropriation nowadays, it dilutes the real meaning and goal and makes it seem less than what it actually is.
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The point of protesting, speaking out and even tweeting "in anger" is to educate people. What else are they supposed to do in response to something? Tweet nicely? And electing leaders can only do so much. Like I asked above, what exactly can an elected official do to change how law enforcement works or attitudes in general? Current policies that already exist are supposed to hold people accountable, but they don't and it's not because of the law.
As for "everything being called racist" like cultural appropriation, that's not relevant to this subject, but their points are valid. Not all racism is violent and aggressive behavior like cops beating people.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Zoraluv
disgusting. Not when it's trying to be awareness to cops who beat and kill black Americans daily.
inb4
yasss agreed!
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Oh honey its not even close to daily. Just go check the numbers.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Inverted
The point of protesting, speaking out and even tweeting "in anger" is to educate people. What else are they supposed to do in response to something? Tweet nicely? And electing leaders can only do so much. Like I asked above, what exactly can an elected official do to change how law enforcement works or attitudes in general? Current policies that already exist are supposed to hold people accountable, but they don't and it's not because of the law.
As for "everything being called racist" like cultural appropriation, that's not relevant to this subject, but their points are valid. Not all racism is violent and aggressive behavior like cops beating people.
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WHAT ARE YOU SAYING. Martin Luther King Jr's ENTIRE FUC**** MOVEMENT promoted non aggression and non violence and look how well it worked. The African American community in Charleston is an amazing example. Instead of reacting with violence and anger they came together to POSITIVELY impact their community unlike in Ferguson and Baltimore where all there was was carnage and destruction. Anger does nothing. Decision making when emotions are involved always lead to negative consequences.
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by Chax
The same way you would get any ally: by educating them to bring them to your side when they don't understand. All I seem to encounter when I try to have a mature debate/discussion is people brushing me off and all it does is turn me away?
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I understand where you're coming from. It's a very naive viewpoint. If you know anything about history, you'd know these changes didn't come by "talking" or even "education". It took Birmingham riots to bring about the civil rights act.
White people don't respond to words, they respond to action.
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Member Since: 9/2/2012
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Originally posted by KyIe
Oh honey its not even close to daily. Just go check the numbers.
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yes lets
http://killedbypolice.net/
And this is all races btw
next?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by KyIe
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING. Martin Luther King Jr's ENTIRE FUC**** MOVEMENT promoted non aggression and non violence and look how well it worked. The African American community in Charleston is an amazing example. Instead of reacting with violence and anger they came together to POSITIVELY impact their community unlike in Ferguson and Baltimore where all there was was carnage and destruction. Anger does nothing. Decision making when emotions are involved always lead to negative consequences.
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Do you even read what you write? Mr King's movement didnt stop cops from killing unarmed balck children...pasive protest actually made white cops feel comfortable enough to shoot these youths with no remorse.
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Member Since: 4/23/2011
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Originally posted by KyIe
WHAT ARE YOU SAYING. Martin Luther King Jr's ENTIRE FUC**** MOVEMENT promoted non aggression and non violence and look how well it worked. The African American community in Charleston is an amazing example. Instead of reacting with violence and anger they came together to POSITIVELY impact their community unlike in Ferguson and Baltimore where all there was was carnage and destruction. Anger does nothing. Decision making when emotions are involved always lead to negative consequences.
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What are you saying? I never even advocated violence in the post you quoted.
As for "carnage and violence," if you're referring to riots:
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…I think America must see that riots do not develop out of thin air. Certain conditions continue to exist in our society which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality, and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention.
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Clearly "look at how well it worked" isn't exactly accurate when that quote from 1967 still applies today.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Ew. This disgust me #BlackLivesMatter is a beautiful movement which acts to raise awarenes of brutality and injustice against black people
FOX News is a HATE group.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by Damien M
Did someone just compare #BlackLivesMatter to ISIS?
This thread has officially jumped the shark. Disgusting (and that poster should be reported and given 5 points).
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Yep
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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First, let me say this:
For all the good intention the Black Lives Matter movement has, the Black Lives Matter folks do a somewhat poor job of getting people to their side, and tbh, they have themselves to blame for that. There was really no need to interrupt speeches by either Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton the way they did. I would appreciate it if disenfranchised minorities would have a movement for them without being as annoying as PETA, and Black Lives Matter is heading in the wrong direction when it comes to that.
That being said, this is Fox News and the opinions stated on this program aren't necessarily unusual. To be honest, this kind of ****ery is par for the course. While I do admit the Southern Poverty Law Center does lean itself to more liberal causes, I don't see much reason to call the Black Lives Matter movement a 'hate group'. While BLM can be aggressive and annoying, I haven't really seen the movement imply that nonblacks are inferior OR spout off racist, sexist, xenophobic, antireligious nonsense towards other groups. Simply wanting police officers to not shoot everything on contact is ≠ Hate.
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
Because we aren't a community to begin with. Once you're inside a certain nation, you are that. And no we don't feel like throwing a whole race off the bus because someone got killed by a man of a certain race. I mean most elderly asians who gets attacked by some african-americans in USA because of reasons but ofcourse we aren't gonna take stupid coincidences based on that since an individual's crimes doesn't mean a crime done by his race. That's just stupid and clearly, most asians probably have no time left to waste for that.
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Well that's your view and values. Black Americans basically built this country and have been ostracized from the very beginnings, so there's more to demand from a government and a country we basically put together through forced labor. This is all institutional oppression, and Black Lives Matter seeks to end it.
Also let me add that had it not been for similar movements like Black Lives Matter, Asians wouldn't even be allowed in this country.
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The people talking about "Martin Luther King Jr. wouldn't approve of the #BlackLivesMatter movement" is full of ********. He wouldn't tolerate Blacks sitting around and not doing anything either. He also wouldn't be fond of the ignorance privileged Whites continued to show five decades after his demise.
And I won't even go in on the idiot who compared a vocal movement to some terrorist group. It's not even worth the time.
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
True. We asians are not starting any #asianlivesmatter movement even though our race gets shoved into train railways these days.
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I see CL was right
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Originally posted by brIt-()nstar
True. We asians are not starting any #asianlivesmatter movement even though our race gets shoved into train railways these days.
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we should actually
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These people are so ****ing stupid.
Why the **** are they allowed to talk about anything on air for america to consume?
F * * * * * * m o r o n s
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Member Since: 12/15/2011
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Originally posted by Igrt
First, let me say this:
For all the good intention the Black Lives Matter movement has, the Black Lives Matter folks do a somewhat poor job of getting people to their side, and tbh, they have themselves to blame for that. There was really no need to interrupt speeches by either Bernie Sanders or Hillary Clinton the way they did. I would appreciate it if disenfranchised minorities would have a movement for them without being as annoying as PETA, and Black Lives Matter is heading in the wrong direction when it comes to that.
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but if PETA, #blacklivesmatter, feminists or whatever group never did anything annoying or in your face, no one would be talking about them
anyway, interrupting two speeches is just like 2 events and doesn't say much about a whole movement... that's like saying feminists are all doing a poor job because some are rude to men or racist
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Wait, who said ISIS?
You people give me grey hairs.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by jacklovesyou1
She didn't lie...
out of the people who are tweeting #blacklivesmatter only 1% of people are actually trying to do something whilst the other 99% are on twitter/tumblr moaning at miley wearing dreads
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You know I was gonna drag you, but you spilled the tea.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Tweeting #blacklivesmatter or however you want to express the movement in social media is good enough to raise awareness for people who can't do much, but it's something.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
Because words have meaning, and how portions of the #BlackLivesMatter movement is spreading their message is appealing to mentally disturbed people. I'm not comparing the movement to ISIS in any way, but ISIS also preys on mentally weak, and disturbed people to do their bidding...some elements of the #BlackLivesMatter movement are doing the same thing.
I'll just say Dr. King wouldn't approve of how this group is going about spreading their message. It's hateful...you can't combat violence with violence or racism with racism.
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Originally posted by MP2K
Wait, who said ISIS?
You people give me grey hairs.
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