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Discussion: Trolling - let's have a discussion
Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by Vin
Sometimes, an opposite opinion just needs to be heard, read, what have you. The following is going to sound troll-worthy, but I'm just stating the following based on my personal experience on this forum. For instance, when I first joined the forum, everyone praised Gaga; I disagreed, and didn't quite understand the fascination, and I didn't find many who shared my views, so, being as it was a public forum, I made threads: "Is Gaga an attention-seeker?" "Is Gaga genuine?" "Do you believe Gaga?" "Is Gaga pretentious?" "Does Gaga play the victim?" You name it, I've asked it. Of course, at the time, since I was the only one making these threads, I was considered a troll and reported to no end, only because the opinion was simply different than " Gaga Is God." But, now, today, everyone knows that Gaga is an attention-seeking, disingenuous, pretentious, victim-playing liar, so I don't have to make threads about Gaga often anymore, as you can see by my thread history. The general public is always a little slow to catch on, but they always catch on, eventually. And, then, I move on. Move on to another artist or topic that I feel compelled to give my opinion on. Usually, personally, I only give strong criticisms on topics if I feel like no one else is doing so. If another member is a voicing a "negative criticism" that I agree with, then I don't need to say anything. But if I'm in a thread where everyone is praising "Pill N Potions," well, then, yes, you know I have to say something to stop the delusions. That's just in my nature, man -- online and in life.
...Vin
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Vin
Sometimes, an opposite opinion just needs to be heard, read, what have you. The following is going to sound troll-worthy, but I'm just stating the following based on my personal experience on this forum. For instance, when I first joined the forum, everyone praised Gaga; I disagreed, and didn't quite understand the fascination, and I didn't find many who shared my views, so, being as it was a public forum, I made threads: "Is Gaga an attention-seeker?" "Is Gaga genuine?" "Do you believe Gaga?" "Is Gaga pretentious?" "Does Gaga play the victim?" You name it, I've asked it. Of course, at the time, since I was the only one making these threads, I was considered a troll and reported to no end, only because the opinion was simply different than " Gaga Is God." But, now, today, everyone knows that Gaga is an attention-seeking, disingenuous, pretentious, victim-playing liar, so I don't have to make threads about Gaga often anymore, as you can see by my thread history. The general public is always a little slow to catch on, but they always catch on, eventually. And, then, I move on. Move on to another artist or topic that I feel compelled to give my opinion on. Usually, personally, I only give strong criticisms on topics if I feel like no one else is doing so. If another member is a voicing a "negative criticism" that I agree with, then I don't need to say anything. But if I'm in a thread where everyone is praising "Pill N Potions," well, then, yes, you know I have to say something to stop the delusions. That's just in my nature, man -- online and in life.
...Vin
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wow someone is just so very special and enlightened
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Member Since: 5/25/2010
Posts: 23,013
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Originally posted by accelgors
wow someone is just so very special and enlightened
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See what I mean, Ace?
Even my non-threatening delivery just makes some people extremely passive-aggresive (Hi, Cap10Planet!).
In any case, reading what trolls have to say online doesn't bother me one bit, probably because I'm not mentally-ill, because those are really the only people affected by trolling. Words on the internet shouldn't have the ability to affect you on any type of emotional level, kids, and if they do, then get off the internet and seek help (no offence, but I'm talking to both of you, Iggy Azalea and the Barbz. )
...Vin
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by Vin
Sometimes, an opposite opinion just needs to be heard, read, what have you. The following is going to sound troll-worthy, but I'm just stating the following based on my personal experience on this forum. For instance, when I first joined the forum, everyone praised Gaga; I disagreed, and didn't quite understand the fascination, and I didn't find many who shared my views, so, being as it was a public forum, I made threads: "Is Gaga an attention-seeker?" "Is Gaga genuine?" "Do you believe Gaga?" "Is Gaga pretentious?" "Does Gaga play the victim?" You name it, I've asked it. Of course, at the time, since I was the only one making these threads, I was considered a troll and reported to no end, only because the opinion was simply different than " Gaga Is God." But, now, today, everyone knows that Gaga is an attention-seeking, disingenuous, pretentious, victim-playing liar, so I don't have to make threads about Gaga often anymore, as you can see by my thread history. The general public is always a little slow to catch on, but they always catch on, eventually. And, then, I move on. Move on to another artist or topic that I feel compelled to give my opinion on. Usually, personally, I only give strong criticisms on topics if I feel like no one else is doing so. If another member is a voicing a "negative criticism" that I agree with, then I don't need to say anything. But if I'm in a thread where everyone is praising "Pill N Potions," well, then, yes, you know I have to say something to stop the delusions. That's just in my nature, man -- online and in life.
...Vin
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Were you bullied as a child?
OT: Trolling can be funny sometimes, most of the time it's just annoying.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 8,388
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Originally posted by Ina Garten
i know personally if i don't like a certain celebrity/popgirl/whatever, then I want to ruin the fan/stan experience for their fans. i want to dull that feeling of happiness they get from their idol, I want to desecrate it- put a pit in their stomach, take the fun out of their experience. I want them to think twice the next time they think good thoughts about their fav, i want to fill them with doubt, with shame, make them feel bad for liking what they like. any time they brag about an accomplishment, i want to discredit it, or post an ugly picture of their fav. i basically want to ruin people's enjoyment of things. i want to spread hate, and negativity.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,070
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Originally posted by Vin
Sometimes, an opposite opinion just needs to be heard, read, what have you. The following is going to sound troll-worthy, but I'm just stating the following based on my personal experience on this forum. For instance, when I first joined the forum, everyone praised Gaga; I disagreed, and didn't quite understand the fascination, and I didn't find many who shared my views, so, being as it was a public forum, I made threads: "Is Gaga an attention-seeker?" "Is Gaga genuine?" "Do you believe Gaga?" "Is Gaga pretentious?" "Does Gaga play the victim?" You name it, I've asked it. Of course, at the time, since I was the only one making these threads, I was considered a troll and reported to no end, only because the opinion was simply different than " Gaga Is God." But, now, today, everyone knows that Gaga is an attention-seeking, disingenuous, pretentious, victim-playing liar, so I don't have to make threads about Gaga often anymore, as you can see by my thread history. The general public is always a little slow to catch on, but they always catch on, eventually. And, then, I move on. Move on to another artist or topic that I feel compelled to give my opinion on. Usually, personally, I only give strong criticisms on topics if I feel like no one else is doing so. If another member is a voicing a "negative criticism" that I agree with, then I don't need to say anything. But if I'm in a thread where everyone is praising "Pill N Potions," well, then, yes, you know I have to say something to stop the delusions. That's just in my nature, man -- online and in life.
...Vin
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This is why you're my favorite member
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Member Since: 8/1/2008
Posts: 52,761
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Once in a while it's okay to post your opinion on things you don't like or don't agree with, even if it's in a shady way.
But if you're constantly on the first page of every thread about an artist you claim to hate then you have problems.
And then there's this trend about using horse jokes on Leona Lewis... It's so pathetic I can't even... Oh well, guess people just want the free warning points.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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there's hardly trolling.
it's all fun and games until they scalp their favs
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Member Since: 3/12/2011
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What happened in a Beyonce thread tonight?
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 13,869
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Originally posted by Vin
Be self-aware. Either all trolling is annoying and unfunny or all trolling is entertaining and funny. It's one side or the other, because all you're saying is that trolling is funny... when it's about someone you don't like. But when it's about someone you do like, then it's a problem. Those oblivious type of people really are the worst. Don't be one of them. kid.
...Vin
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No, not at all. Trolling is funny... if it's funny. I see many 'funny' troll/flame-bait comments about public figures that I like, most times it's the delivery that makes it humorous, it becomes annoying when it's just straight and repetitive hatred by the same transparent people. After a while it becomes laughable, I'd argue that the people that try hardest to hide their hate as opinion really... are the worst.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 25,228
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Originally posted by Ina Garten
i know personally if i don't like a certain celebrity/popgirl/whatever, then I want to ruin the fan/stan experience for their fans. i want to dull that feeling of happiness they get from their idol, I want to desecrate it- put a pit in their stomach, take the fun out of their experience. I want them to think twice the next time they think good thoughts about their fav, i want to fill them with doubt, with shame, make them feel bad for liking what they like. any time they brag about an accomplishment, i want to discredit it, or post an ugly picture of their fav. i basically want to ruin people's enjoyment of things. i want to spread hate, and negativity.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 27,856
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Originally posted by Waffles O'Brien
Why did the mods troll with the black avatar thing?
The answer to both is the same... people enjoy being shady bitches...
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Get them
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 12,760
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Originally posted by Ina Garten
i know personally if i don't like a certain celebrity/popgirl/whatever, then I want to ruin the fan/stan experience for their fans. i want to dull that feeling of happiness they get from their idol, I want to desecrate it- put a pit in their stomach, take the fun out of their experience. I want them to think twice the next time they think good thoughts about their fav, i want to fill them with doubt, with shame, make them feel bad for liking what they like. any time they brag about an accomplishment, i want to discredit it, or post an ugly picture of their fav. i basically want to ruin people's enjoyment of things. i want to spread hate, and negativity.
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Omg same
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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This question would be perfect for the Katy haters tbh. I'm genuinely curious to know the answer myself.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Some posts here are legitimately sad.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 4,721
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Trolling is integral to ATRL, it keeps it moving. People won't quote/respond to your posts unless they feel provoked (as proven by Vin in this thread). ATRL is not and never will be a place for serious, mature discussion.
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Member Since: 5/6/2010
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I don't. People really think that the petty, childish **** they do is funny and/or cool, and I will never understand why. I really dislike members who go and make passive-aggressive comments in these threads too.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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It can be amusing in small amounts and I'd say the majority of it is done to get on a fanbase's nerves.
But take one look at Leona threads and see how people take it too far and ruin it for everyone.
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
Posts: 12,474
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Originally posted by Vin
Sometimes, an opposite opinion just needs to be heard, read, what have you. The following is going to sound troll-worthy, but I'm just stating the following based on my personal experience on this forum. For instance, when I first joined the forum, everyone praised Gaga; I disagreed, and didn't quite understand the fascination, and I didn't find many who shared my views, so, being as it was a public forum, I made threads: "Is Gaga an attention-seeker?" "Is Gaga genuine?" "Do you believe Gaga?" "Is Gaga pretentious?" "Does Gaga play the victim?" You name it, I've asked it. Of course, at the time, since I was the only one making these threads, I was considered a troll and reported to no end, only because the opinion was simply different than " Gaga Is God." But, now, today, everyone knows that Gaga is an attention-seeking, disingenuous, pretentious, victim-playing liar, so I don't have to make threads about Gaga often anymore, as you can see by my thread history. The general public is always a little slow to catch on, but they always catch on, eventually. And, then, I move on. Move on to another artist or topic that I feel compelled to give my opinion on. Usually, personally, I only give strong criticisms on topics if I feel like no one else is doing so. If another member is a voicing a "negative criticism" that I agree with, then I don't need to say anything. But if I'm in a thread where everyone is praising "Pill N Potions," well, then, yes, you know I have to say something to stop the delusions. That's just in my nature, man -- online and in life.
...Vin
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Loves it!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 34,855
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Originally posted by Ina Garten
i know personally if i don't like a certain celebrity/popgirl/whatever, then I want to ruin the fan/stan experience for their fans. i want to dull that feeling of happiness they get from their idol, I want to desecrate it- put a pit in their stomach, take the fun out of their experience. I want them to think twice the next time they think good thoughts about their fav, i want to fill them with doubt, with shame, make them feel bad for liking what they like. any time they brag about an accomplishment, i want to discredit it, or post an ugly picture of their fav. i basically want to ruin people's enjoyment of things. i want to spread hate, and negativity.
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same
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