- "I think Madonna sincerley adored Michael, but the feeling wasn't mutual and she committed two cardinal sins. The first was that she was hell-bent on loosening him up and getting him to see life through her eyes. The second mistake was when Michael went to dinner with her one night and Madonna had the termerity to criticise Janet. Michael was furious and not suprisingly, they never went on another date".
- "I think Madonna sincerley adored Michael, but the feeling wasn't mutual and she committed two cardinal sins. The first was that she was hell-bent on loosening him up and getting him to see life through her eyes. The second mistake was when Michael went to dinner with her one night and Madonna had the termerity to criticise Janet. Michael was furious and not suprisingly, they never went on another date".
LOL the temerity to criticize Janet. And they didn't even know each other. Now we know who's bitter. Keep adoring him, Madonna. He'll never adore you back, ever.
Why so mad?
No one can deny the fact Janet killed her career doing exactly the same thing she used to criticize about Madonna: being sexual
Was a own death in every rule. But it's Ok. No one can be knowing as the Queen of Pop an reinvention. Try harder Jackson, your last name could give you a chance to sell a little amount of albums
But there is no proof of Madonna trashing Janet in the 80s or 90s.. so basically you're wrongfully speculating what happened because of her so called "behavior". Give me a break.. I can easily speculate that Janet was jealous she wasn't the Queen of Pop
Janet had just got done selling a major world tour, gotten an 80 million dollar recording contract which was groundbreaking for a female back then, and right off the tails of the Rhythm Nation era, about to dive into the even more successful Janet. era. What would she of been jealous of, as far as everyone knew sky was the limit for her. Madonna was the one hitting a bump in that point in time.
GP didn't really called Madonna the queen of pop back then, some magazine gave her that title. Just as they throw it around for the girls today. In retrospect Whitney, Janet, or Madonna could of got that title back in the early 90's. The only thing that saved Madonna was Ray of Light and being a white woman, no shade.
No one is knocking Madge's longevity, but if we are going to bring up THE PAST, then stop bringing up THE PRESENT, because as of 2015 I highly doubt either or care anymore. Madonna to my knowledge lightweight defended Janet's superbowl boob, and when Janet was asked what she thought of Madonna performing superbowl Janet said how nice and should be lots of fun. They're older now and moved on.
the only thing that Madonna said about Janet is that she didn't know her personally. i don't know how do all Janet stans get the clue that Madonna dissed their fave. she was smply pressed over a naked woman who made sex book =))
ok, i know what she defined " i have class " =))
Madonna remains unbothered with having the two highest grossing world tours by a female artist and the rebel heart tour coming this fall about to be the third.
- "I think Madonna sincerley adored Michael, but the feeling wasn't mutual and she committed two cardinal sins. The first was that she was hell-bent on loosening him up and getting him to see life through her eyes. The second mistake was when Michael went to dinner with her one night and Madonna had the termerity to criticise Janet. Michael was furious and not suprisingly, they never went on another date".
He think a fact. Not knew, saw, o listened. And when it comes to think about something, well, I could think Janet was jealous about Madonna for being the Queen of Pop and do bad things to her
You can link me as a source anytime.
Now, seriously. We're talking about something said by Janet, by her own words. That's a real fact of something that really happened. First source. And what Janet said was really out of point and came from nowhere.
- First: Erotica sold more than 2 millions. Around 6 millions. A flop, yes.
- Second: the Sex Book broke the record being the most and fast selling coffe book all time. And with the second edition was sold out everywhere. Nowadays is one of the books most searched on internet.
- Third: talk with facts.
At the end of the day, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to put pieces together and see Madonna was a mess back then. Everyone from Cher to Janet, Mariah, Whitney and more did not use her, so clearly she had to of been doing SOMETHING. I don't think there was ever an artist who stirred the industry pot like her, but it's why she is Madonna. She overcame being a notorious bitch and now gets pass for it I suppose.
But to sit up and act like everyone was just pressed at her to be pressed is ignorant. Madonna was no damn angel, if she had that many people rolling eyes at her, she was clearly an even hotter mess behind the scenes.
if you believe in using the idea of 'class' to put other women down then you're misogynistic, it's simple. madonna wasn't causing harm to anyone.
anyway, where do janet's limits of 'class' end? According to her it's not classy to take nude photos or make a book for adults about sex but it is classy to rub people's genitalia on stage, give people lapdances on stage and expose your breast on stage. the lines seem pretty blurred if you ask me...
it's weird that while she was 'slaying the world' she seemed to know madonna's sales figures by heart...
Janet's limits of "class" is when sex stops being something to appease the man and starts being something a appease the woman herself.
Why so mad?
No one can deny the fact Janet killed her career doing exactly the same thing she used to criticize about Madonna: being sexual
Was a own death in every rule. But it's Ok. No one can be knowing as the Queen of Pop an reinvention. Try harder Jackson, your last name could give you a chance to sell a little amount of albums
Why so mad? You Madonna stans are the ones who first entertained this old mess. Look at the first page. All you see are you Madonna fans trashing her with one calling her an ugly rat. But we're the mad ones for defending her?
You stans are really getting mad over something said before most of you were even born? Janet has not said anything about that woman since 1994. You're taking two singular comments uttered in 1992 and 1993 and somehow assumed that Janet cared about her her entire career. You all are tired, through and DELAYED honestly.
Madonna stans saying no one from this generation knows Janet when the only reasons Madonna IS known by people under 17 is for getting in feuds, pimping herself to every act that gets a top 5 on Billboard or higher than a 70 on pitchfork, and making out with Drake.
Hung Up - #1 in 41 countries, #114 on UWC all time chart
4 Minutes - #1 in 21 countries, #195 on UWC all time chart
Both more known worldwide than any Janet song.
There is a world outside the US, although I wouldn't expect you to know that
GP didn't really called Madonna the queen of pop back then, some magazine gave her that title. Just as they throw it around for the girls today. In retrospect Whitney, Janet, or Madonna could of got that title back in the early 90's. The only thing that saved Madonna was Ray of Light and being a white woman, no shade.
GP always knew Madonna as the Queen of Pop. Until today she's recognize by GP as the Queen of Pop. Back then we got facts and social phenoms to prove: the madonnabe. When everywhere tried to look and be like Madonna. Is a nearly fact in her career. And sorry, I really don't know is Janet career was marked by any social phenom to be called the Queen of Pop (despite of a comercial success)
Oh.. and what saved Madonna's career was get pregnant by Lourde and the Evita role. Both thing inspire her to do Ray of Light. And not to mention her recovered with Bedtime Stories and the acclaimed Something to Remember.
Such a damage control after the Erotica and Sex Book mess
Shame Janet wasn't able to do something like that
Why so mad? You Madonna stans are the ones who first entertained this old mess. Look at the first page. All you see are you Madonna fans trashing her with one calling her an ugly rat. But we're the mad ones for defending her?
You stans are really getting mad over something said before most of you were even born? Janet has not said anything about that woman since 1994. You're taking two singular comments uttered in 1992 and 1993 and somehow assumed that Janet cared about her her entire career. You all are tired, through and DELAYED honestly.
I wasn't the one who called Janet a rat. Why should I?
I like Janet nowadays (I didn't knew her music but I'm listening to her so much)
And well... us, the Madonna's stans, aren't fighting alone. We do? The Janet's stan are doing the same thing, too. So... why so mad?
And: you're the on who said "get over this". Well, make an example and get over it, too. xd