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Celeb News: Ciara: I have had hits just as big as RIH/Bey
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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That's cool, but so did Ashanti, Mya, Avril etc, but where are they now? Where did all her fans go, she at least should be able to go platinum and head line a ww arena tour if you have hits big as Bey and Rih. What happened? What's the point of bringing up old hits, if aren't successful any more and can't even scan gold?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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this is the 2nd time today someone has twisted her words for flamebait. what's with the sudden anti-ciara campaign on here?
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
You do realize that what you just listed is a huge, expensive promo campaign filled with high profile events and shows, right?
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It was decent at best. It was far from "massive" and you know that. All promo stopped after August and that was 2 months after the album came out. can it
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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How does her single sales look?
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Member Since: 5/7/2009
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
How was 4 sabotaged by her label when she had the biggest promo schedule of 2011 along with Gaga's BTW???
She was everywhere, did global promo, appeared on Glasto, had countless singles officially sent to radio and getting some form of single treatement and performed at the BBMA's and the VMA's. She also had DVD's and many other things going on. 4 was one of the most well executed eras of the 2010's.
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It was uploaded to the Sony server well before its time making it leak ahead of release.
It got nearly nothing from promotion from Sony Everything went to the 21 era.
The label was against the release of RTW the only reasons why it got so many singles is cause Urban was picking their own releases.
The countless single treatments ended after Best thing everything else was rushed with no form of back up behind it.
So yes Bey had her label against her during 4.
And she still pulled in numbers.
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Originally posted by YeaBey4ever
It was decent at best. It was far from "massive" and you know that. All promo stopped after August and that was 2 months after the album came out. can it
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But can we all agree that the 4 campaign wasn't sabotaged by anyone? Cause that's what I was responding to.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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True, but people just dont really remember them or give them enough credit because Ciara isn't prominent in the industry anymore, if she was as big as Rih and Bey now people would give her hits credit.
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
. There was a plan and it was executed perfectly.
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Like when she performed love on top at the vma and they canceled its single release and made Countdown a single and did nothing for it ??
Or was this when Rtw was falling she performed 1+1 on American idol and then made Best thing the next single ?
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
But can we all agree that the 4 campaign wasn't sabotaged by anyone? Cause that's what I was responding to.
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apart from the fact that someone from her label was responsible for it leaking a month early? I guess not lolz. no big deal!
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Member Since: 8/25/2012
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In what world? Y'all are delusional. She had big hits, but none were as big as Bey's or Rih's.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Kisuke
It was uploaded to the Sony server well before its time making it leak ahead of release.
It got nearly nothing from promotion from Sony Everything went to the 21 era.
The label was against the release of RTW the only reasons why it got so many singles is cause Urban was picking their own releases.
The countless single treatments ended after Best thing everything else was rushed with no form of back up behind it.
So yes Bey had her label against her during 4.
And she still pulled in numbers.
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I already adressed that there was no sabotage. 4 was a big, healthy promo campaign. Urban radio always picks singles, they do that with most rappers and they recently did it with Truffle Butter. The single treatments didn't end after BTINH, cause there were 4 more singles and like 5 more videos after that, as well as DVD releases etc.
But I obviously won't reach any kind of an agreement with you if you genuinely think an era with a 4-week long promo, countless high profile appearances, 6 singles and many videos was sabotaged, so yeah.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by Aleks
She did have bigger hits than Beyonce, not that it's a very a difficult thing to accomplish.
Not sure about Rihanna though.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Kisuke
Like when she performed love on top at the vma and they canceled its single release and made Countdown a single and did nothing for it ??
Or was this when Rtw was falling she performed 1+1 on American idol and then made Best thing the next single ?
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What you fail to realize is that in the 2010's, the era of limited promo and low budget campaigns, even booking the VMA's and AI is big. And you'll never get what I'm saying because you stan for someone that never had trouble booking them. So, let's end this, we won't agree.
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Member Since: 5/7/2009
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
I already adressed that there was no sabotage. 4 was a big, healthy promo campaign.
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Oh ? Where was she when rtw was released ?
Making another song then Love on top the single after just breaking social media with that performance ?
The massive gap between Best thing and the VMA promo ?
Your idea of a healthy promo campaign seems a bit flawed
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
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1 2 step
Goodies
loose control
oh
taking back my love
love and sexy magic
like a boy
ride
body party
get up
Were all decent sized hits some been pretty big hits! She didnt lie shes had at least 10 hit singles thats still alot
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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The fact alone that you guys came in here and acknowledged her songs and even compared them to Bey & Rhis hits were enough. Trust me, Goodies, 1,2 Step, Oh, Lose Control, Like You, So What, Promise, Get Up, Like A Boy, Taking Back My Love, LSM, Ride, Body Party, and I Bet are hits. Go Girl even went #1 in Japan & Overdose, Living It Up, & Read My Lips were selling millions in S. Korea. No, every song or album she puts out isnt massive, just like Bey and Rhi, but that doesn't take away from what she has accomplished.
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Member Since: 5/7/2009
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Your label putting your album online nearly a month before release being healthy promo campaign .
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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It's true. 1, 2 Step, Lose Control, Goodies were bigger than MOST of Rihanna and Beyonce's singles. Obviously not as big as Crazy In Love or Umbrella or anything, but they were bigger than FourFiveSeconds or Where Have You Even or 7/11 or Best Thing I Never Had for example.
But I think the thing with Ciara is she had most of her biggest hits concentrated in a few years, whilst Rihanna and Beyonce got theirs more spread out, and also they had a higher number of hits. For example, Ciara's had maybe 10 hits, Rihanna's had probably 40, however, what Ciara said is true.
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