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Celeb News: P!nk Chimes in on Britney Spears Controversy
Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by Vini
Every artist is a product. Their image, songs, EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING AND EVERYTHING is carefully thought so they can be "successful"....
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being a product is NOT the prpblem....it's who/what your a product of..... britney is a product of various other people's talents pulled from all corners of the earth with little, if any addittion of her own artisrtry to "her craft", using the words "her" and "craft" very loosely
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Originally posted by inspiration4
being a product is NOT the prpblem....it's who/what your a product of..... britney is a product of various other people's talents pulled from all corners of the earth with little, if any addittion of her own artisrtry to "her craft", using the words "her" and "craft" very loosely
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Every pop artist uses other people's talent for their craft. Producers, writers, stylists, directors, etc.
Britney isn't the only one who uses those services. I'd love for you to find someone as big a star as Britney who does EVERYTHING by themselves.
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Originally posted by starstruck52
Every pop artist uses other people's talent for their craft. Producers, writers, stylists, directors, etc.
Britney isn't the only one who uses those services. I'd love for you to find someone as big a star as Britney who does EVERYTHING by themselves.
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a wonderful example would be your favorite artist
Lady gaga ....
*writers her own music
*designs/handles her own clothing
*co-produces her songs
*writes the script for her videos
These are just a few of the things she does. By default Lady Gaga is a brand sold commercialy which makes her a product like all other artist, BUT she is a product of her own creativity and artistry. and there are many more artsit who also have higher levels of control with their craft but this example is good enough.....
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Originally posted by inspiration4
a wonderful example would be your favorite artist
Lady gaga ....
*writers her own music
*designs/handles her own clothing
*co-produces her songs
*writes the script for her videos
These are just a few of the things she does. By default Lady Gaga is a brand sold commercialy which makes her a product like all other artist, BUT she is a product of her own creativity and artistry. and there are many more artsit who also have higher levels of control with their craft but this example is good enough.....
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GaGa doesn't direct her own videos. She has stylists from her "Haus" design and find clothes for her. She doesn't produce her music, RedOne does.
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Member Since: 11/14/2008
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Originally posted by starstruck52
Every pop artist uses other people's talent for their craft. Producers, writers, stylists, directors, etc.
Britney isn't the only one who uses those services. I'd love for you to find someone as big a star as Britney who does EVERYTHING by themselves.
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You can't because that person doesn't exists. You can't become successful without utilizing the services of others.
Again people play down Britney's talent too much and too often. Only her hardcore fans know of all of what she has done and contributed to the success of her career. The writing, dancing, directing, producing, composing, and etc... that she has done over the years don't merit her being "talented" I guess?! Hardly anyone outside her fanbase knows she plays the piano and composes pieces of music on it which is really sad. Again...hello anyone remembers "Everytime"? She composed that song herself. She has plenty of talent, yall just choose to overlook them because it doesn't suit yall purpose in dogging her "artistry".
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Member Since: 10/10/2009
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Originally posted by starstruck52
GaGa doesn't direct her own videos. She has stylists from her "Haus" design and find clothes for her. She doesn't produce her music, RedOne does.
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how do you completely deny facts so ignorantly
she HAS co-produced some of her songs, they are not all even produced by redone
the director is there to direct the video in the vision of Gaga. she writes the "treatment" for all of her videos. they are projects of HER imagination.
And she both designs AND collaborates with her own hand picked team of fashion designers of the Haus. and when she's weraring designers she's still picking exactly what SHE (not her handlers) wants to wear.
how about you mention how britney is not a complete treasure chest filled with everyone elses thoughts and creativity....
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Member Since: 3/18/2008
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Originally posted by N@te
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PINK
Total Gross: $102,878,271
Total Attendance: 1,550,026
Number of Shows: 131
Number of Sell-Outs: 69
BRITNEY
Total Gross: $94,813,948
Total Attendance: 1,097,229
Number of Shows: 70
Number of Sell-Outs: 61
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Originally posted by N@te
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It's already been declared Britney's tour is #3 worldwide, and the #1 tour in North America. Billboard didn't include 27 of Britney's show. So I'm sorry if you're too inane to do math, but that clearly puts Britney ahead of #6, P!nk, and AC/DC.
So, you good luck next time.
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Member Since: 3/4/2009
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Originally posted by Mgui_Blackout
PINK
Total Gross: $102,878,271
Total Attendance: 1,550,026
Number of Shows: 131
Number of Sell-Outs: 69
BRITNEY
Total Gross: $94,813,948
Total Attendance: 1,097,229
Number of Shows: 70
Number of Sell-Outs: 61
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All of those shows by P!nk weren't considered sellouts, because her tour management wouldn't release about 1,000 tickets to general audience and offer them to local venue staff, so technically since those tickets were not recorded as sold, the statistics didn't count the shows as sold out. While we know that those 9 shows of Britney, which were not sold out were disasters - like the one in France where she couldn't even sell half of the tickets
Anyways, I would never call Britney's tour a flop, and I don't understand how this person had a nerve to call P!nk's tour a flop.
Diagnosis: PRESSED.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
It's already been declared Britney's tour is #3 worldwide, and the #1 tour in North America. Billboard didn't include 27 of Britney's show. So I'm sorry if you're too inane to do math, but that clearly puts Britney ahead of #6, P!nk, and AC/DC.
So, you good luck next time.
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How is that even possible when all the calculations show that P!nk has more dates than any other pop star this year. 150 or something shows! So yeah, your opinion is wrong and biased.
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Member Since: 8/20/2008
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Originally posted by Mgui_Blackout
PINK
Total Gross: $102,878,271
Total Attendance: 1,550,026
Number of Shows: 131
Number of Sell-Outs: 69
BRITNEY
Total Gross: $94,813,948
Total Attendance: 1,097,229
Number of Shows: 70
Number of Sell-Outs: 61
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131 (its supposed to be 150) / 70 or something????
LOL, wtf about the sellouts, look out the number of shows!!
BTW Britney`s tickets were soooo expensive.
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Member Since: 10/28/2008
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
While we know that those 9 shows of Britney, which were not sold out were disasters - like the one in France where she couldn't even sell half of the tickets
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LMAO. Britney were initially set to do London's O2 for 2 or 3 dates and sold quickly out, hence, adding more London dates up to 8. The O2 gigs were the first ones to sell out in the whole tour. Furthermore, 2 dates were originally announced in France before appending another date due to....yeah...selling only half of the tickets . I suppose that's the 9 dates you're referring to.
Britney and P!nk are the top female under 35 tourers of this year. So haters
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Originally posted by N@te
How is that even possible when all the calculations show that P!nk has more dates than any other pop star this year. 150 or something shows! So yeah, your opinion is wrong and biased.
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What opinion? Bias?
These are FACTS sweetheart. And the # of shows doesn't matter, OBVIOUSLY. Everyone ahead of P!nk all have less than 80 shows (some 50), and grossed more. So inane.
These calculations also show nearly half of P!nk's shows weren't even complete sellouts, while Britney has only had a few shows not be completely 100% soldout.
Like I said, it has been officially reported NUMEROUS times that Britney is #1 in American tours, and #3 worldwide behind Tina Turner and U2. I'm sorry P!nk's only highlight now-a-days is Australia, but get your facts straight next time so it won't be as embarrassing.
And price does not matter. Stop trying to make excuses.
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Member Since: 1/27/2006
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
While we know that those 9 shows of Britney, which were not sold out were disasters - like the one in France where she couldn't even sell half of the tickets
Anyways, I would never call Britney's tour a flop, and I don't understand how this person had a nerve to call P!nk's tour a flop.
Diagnosis: PRESSED.
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The O2 shows were the first to sellout forcing them to do more dates, so you're wrong about that. akrl already clarified this.
I also would like to say, no hate towards P!nk but some idiotic people need to learn when not to attack.
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Member Since: 3/4/2009
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
The O2 shows were the first to sellout forcing them to do more dates, so you're wrong about that. akrl already clarified this.
I also would like to say, no hate towards P!nk but some idiotic people need to learn when not to attack.
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What do O2 dates have to do with what I said? Maybe you have a point, but you sure couldn't express it in your post. I mentioned a show in France, which went bad, as I remember that there was a thread about it on here and there was a source provided in that thread, stating that Britney was performing in front of the half-mepty venue.
And I agree on the second part of your post, so just in case Mgui_Blackout will not check this thread again, I think you should send him/her a private message as well
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Member Since: 8/20/2008
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
What opinion? Bias?
These are FACTS sweetheart. And the # of shows doesn't matter, OBVIOUSLY. Everyone ahead of P!nk all have less than 80 shows (some 50), and grossed more. So inane.
These calculations also show nearly half of P!nk's shows weren't even complete sellouts, while Britney has only had a few shows not be completely 100% soldout.
Like I said, it has been officially reported NUMEROUS times that Britney is #1 in American tours, and #3 worldwide behind Tina Turner and U2. I'm sorry P!nk's only highlight now-a-days is Australia, but get your facts straight next time so it won't be as embarrassing.
And price does not matter. Stop trying to make excuses.
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P!nk`s only highlight is Australia? Yeah, im glad to say that, since she owns Britney`s shows just with her australian leg of the tour!
Sorry, those numbers from BB aren`t made up. And wtf after all?? We all know who is worshiped as a better performer at the end of the day. Altho some idiotic people can`t accept that, it`s the truth.
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Not to mention that Circus Tour had 97 shows and Billboard only counted 70 on this list....
So, NEXT!
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Member Since: 7/27/2004
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Originally posted by N@te
P!nk`s only highlight is Australia? Yeah, im glad to say that, since she owns Britney`s shows just with her australian leg of the tour!
Sorry, those numbers from BB aren`t made up. And wtf after all?? We all know who is worshiped as a better performer at the end of the day. Altho some idiotic people can`t accept that, it`s the truth.
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Britney is worshiped, Pink isn't. Let's move on.
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Member Since: 8/20/2008
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Originally posted by Violet Skye
Britney is worshiped, Pink isn't. Let's move on.
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Haha, for hitting cars with umbrellas? Hell yes.
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