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Discussion: Why can't you be 'racist' against white people?
Member Since: 9/18/2010
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Originally posted by judaskills
There is a distinct difference between racism and oppression. A lot of you are using the terms interchangeably. You can most definitely be racist towards ANY ethnicity.
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They go hand in hand. While technically, that may be true. Is it anywhere near as offensive or have anywhere near as much meaning?
To put this into perspective. Instead of white and black let's use gay and straight (even though even this is nowhere near the same). Since we live in an extremely hetero-based society and I'm sure a lot of you can relate.
If 90% of a school is straight and there is a gay kid who gets made fun of for being gay. Is that comparable to if a straight kid goes to a 90% gay school and gets made fun of for being straight? Is that straight kid really going to be as offended, hurt, effected, etc by people trying to "demean" his straightness when literally almost everything else in society is in support of it? Yeah, it may be a little uncomfortable at the time but when he walks outside of those doors he has it easier than every single one of those gay kids and he is well aware of that. So is he really going to be as effected by a some gay kids calling him "A stupid straight kid" as a homosexual kid would being bullied by a bunch of straight people? Not even close.
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Originally posted by Javan
Even if she is "racist"? So what? She aint doing no damage.
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ppl just love to use any excuse to be racist. the impending mess
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Originally posted by Javan
Even if she is "racist"? So what? She aint doing no damage.
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Someone said Azealia isn't racist, so I'm countering their statement because I believe she is. And what do you mean so what  being a racist is disgusting idc if she does no daamage
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Originally posted by judaskills
There is a distinct difference between racism and oppression. A lot of you are using the terms interchangeably. You can most definitely be racist towards ANY ethnicity/race.
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Alright, I know I said bye, but here's the thing.
White people and black people have two completely different experiences when it comes to the word "racism". In the white world, racism just means being discriminatory based on another person's race. But in a black person's world, the word means 500x more than that. And white people don't and can't understand that because...they're white!
To say that the word means one thing because that's how it's defined in system dominated by white supremacy completely eradicates how black people view the world around them. You're invalidating a black person's existence every time you say "well racism simply means this, nothing more silly!" because to a black person, the word carries much, much more weight and affects them so deeply.
How is black person's experiences with the word racism any less valid than a white person's? How is it that a black person's view on the word racism and all it implies is seen as inflammatory and stupid when in fact it has been black people, to this very day, who experience the most racism in this country? These are the questions you should be asking.
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
Alright, I know I said bye, but here's the thing.
White people and black people have two completely different experiences when it comes to the word "racism". In the white world, racism just means being discriminatory based on another person's race. But in a black person's world, the word means 500x more than that. And white people don't and can't understand that because...they're white!
To say that the word means one thing because that's how it's defined in system dominated by white supremacy completely eradicates how black people view the world around them. You're invalidating a black person's existence every time you say "well racism simply means this, nothing more silly!" because to a black person, the word carries much, much more weight and affects them so deeply.
How is black person's experiences with the word racism any less valid than a white person's? How is it that a black person's view on the word racism and all it implies is seen as inflammatory and stupid when in fact it has been black people, to this very day, who experience the most racism in this country? These are the questions you should be asking.
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Originally posted by FAME.
They go hand in hand. While technically, that may be true. Is it anywhere near as offensive or have anywhere near as much meaning?
To put this into perspective. Instead of white and black let's use gay and straight (even though even this is nowhere near the same). Since we live in an extremely hetero-based society and I'm sure a lot of you can relate.
If 90% of a school is straight and there is a gay kid who gets made fun of for being gay. Is that comparable to if a straight kid goes to a 90% gay school and gets made fun of for being straight? Is that straight kid really going to be as offended, hurt, effected, etc by people trying to "demean" his straightness when literally almost everything else in society is in support of it? Yeah, it may be a little uncomfortable at the time but when he walks outside of those doors he has it easier than every single one of those gay kids and he is well aware of that. So is he really going to be as effected by a some gay kids calling him "A stupid straight kid" as a homosexual kid would being bullied by a bunch of straight people? Not even close.
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Eh I don't think this is a very good example to be honest... I get where you are going but it's not the same, gay people are literally condemned to go to hell by most religions, black people aren't, they just earn a few less dollars on average
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Prejudice based on Race = Rascism
This applies to all races.......
(WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RASCISM,Not OPpression)
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Originally posted by Kuntmonster
Eh I don't think this is a very good example to be honest... I get where you are going but it's not the same, gay people are literally condemned to go to hell by most religions, black people aren't, they just earn a few less dollars on average
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Youre too ignorant to teach because if you think that black people only earn less money.... i wish that was it.
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Originally posted by Kuntmonster
gay people are literally condemned to go to hell by most religions, black people aren't, they just earn a few less dollars on average
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If ANYTHING, black people have it even WORSE than gay people. A white gay man is 10x more privileged than any black man period. Regardless of how certain super crazy religious people feel about sexuality, for the simple fact that he is white. Nevermind a gay BLACK man.
But you are clearly beyond unable to comprehend this if you truly believe that the only disadvantages that come with being black is getting a few less dollars
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
Alright, I know I said bye, but here's the thing.
White people and black people have two completely different experiences when it comes to the word "racism". In the white world, racism just means being discriminatory based on another person's race. But in a black person's world, the word means 500x more than that. And white people don't and can't understand that because...they're white!
To say that the word means one thing because that's how it's defined in system dominated by white supremacy completely eradicates how black people view the world around them. You're invalidating a black person's existence every time you say "well racism simply means this, nothing more silly!" because to a black person, the word carries much, much more weight and affects them so deeply.
How is black person's experiences with the word racism any less valid than a white person's? How is it that a black person's view on the word racism and all it implies is seen as inflammatory and stupid when in fact it has been black people, to this very day, who experience the most racism in this country? These are the questions you should be asking.
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i feel like people will ignore this post
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Originally posted by KareBear
Azealia Banks is most definitely racist, she despises white people except when she has their old dick in her mouth
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I love your posts.
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Originally posted by KareBear
Someone said Azealia isn't racist, so I'm countering their statement because I believe she is. And what do you mean so what being a racist is disgusting idc if she does no daamage |
Well I think she has every right to feel the way she does. If we were to list every single thing White people have done to spite blacks around the world, I'm surprised there isn't more resentment. A general history book doesn't even cover the Tuskegee syphillis programs, C.I.A crack scandal etc. Let her do her 
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Member Since: 11/28/2011
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Originally posted by theoyella jukebox
Alright, I know I said bye, but here's the thing.
White people and black people have two completely different experiences when it comes to the word "racism". In the white world, racism just means being discriminatory based on another person's race. But in a black person's world, the word means 500x more than that. And white people don't and can't understand that because...they're white!
To say that the word means one thing because that's how it's defined in system dominated by white supremacy completely eradicates how black people view the world around them. You're invalidating a black person's existence every time you say "well racism simply means this, nothing more silly!" because to a black person, the word carries much, much more weight and affects them so deeply.
How is black person's experiences with the word racism any less valid than a white person's? How is it that a black person's view on the word racism and all it implies is seen as inflammatory and stupid when in fact it has been black people, to this very day, who experience the most racism in this country? These are the questions you should be asking.
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If you hate any race because of their skin color, you're racist.
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So does this mean you can't be sexist towards men because it's mostly women who are prejudiced against? 
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Originally posted by Afferty
you can, but they'll come up with new definitions of racism to make it look like you can't  |
tbh...
Prejudice against any race by definition is racism, so the answer is "you can". It doesn't happen often but you can. This reverse racism thing doesn't exist because it's actually just racism, period.
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Originally posted by Javan
Well I think she has every right to feel the way she does. If we were to list every single thing White people have done to spite blacks around the world, I'm surprised there isn't more resentment. A general history book doesn't even cover the Tuskegee syphillis programs, C.I.A crack scandal etc. Let her do her |
I understand where she's coming from because I get really angry too, but nothing justifies hating an entire race of people. Hate just leads to more hate imo... we hate them they hate is right back and it never ends. Justifying black ppl's hate makes it hypocritical, hate all white people based on a number of racist white people in power but get mad when they hate all black people? There needs to be some forgiveness and patience on our part and more understanding on their part.
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Originally posted by !Blue!
i feel like people will ognore this post |
Me too.
I hope at least one person read it and started thinking about it in a more empathetic way because this thread will be closed pretty soon.
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Originally posted by KareBear
I understand where she's coming from because I get really angry too, but nothing justifies hating an entire race of people. Hate just leads to more hate imo... we hate them they hate is right back and it never ends. Justifying black ppl's hate makes it hypocritical, hate all white people based on a number of racist white people in power but get mad when they hate all black people? There needs to be some forgiveness and patience on our part and more understanding on their part.
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But does she really hate all white people? I'm looking at her instagram, I don't think she does. She just makes a lot general idgaf statements. And giving the positions she's in, as a black woman. It's kinda like... so? White supremacy will exist regardless of how black people behave and what black people say. So all this "extend your hand of love", "forgiveness" & "patience" rubbish is redundant at this point. It sheerly serves the mere purpose of making whites feel comfortable and better about themselves. Why should she/we be concerned with that?
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Originally posted by Kali.
If you hate any race because of their skin color, you're racist.
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I mean this is like the clear cut, black and white definition to the word
all this systematic oppression, sociopolitical, socioeconomic whatever stuff ya'll attribute to the word now is something that has been formulated in the past two decades by people putting more thought into modern day, 21st century racism
not saying it's incorrect, but if you hate white people because they're white that's like..... literally point blank racism, which is a specified form of prejudice. A lot of ya'll really wanna get into the deep semantics of what these words mean, but the fact is you can interchange a lot of them and still get the same end result.
Racism is terrible and it's something no one should have to experience, and with having said everything that I just did, I, as a white person, cannot tell a black person what racism is because it's a completely different experience for them. But whether I'm on the outside looking in or the inside looking out, it doesn't invalidate my definition just like it doesn't invalidate their own.
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