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Poll: Has Katy replaced Beyonce in the trinity?
View Poll Results: Has Katy replaced Beyonce in the trinity?
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Yes
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No
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Beyonce has never been a part of the trinity, she replaced Gaga
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Member Since: 12/7/2010
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Originally posted by ianBK4
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Taylor is only 25. And the fact Beyonce is charting outside top250 after almost 20 years of career...
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Bey is the queen she is above all of these chicks. she is the only one that doesn't need hits. Well Taylor is the only one that could survive without hits too but only in US...she is kinda local.....and where is QUEEN Gaga? Bye
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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but...Taylor is the one who has never been a part of the trinity
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
Taylor is only 25. And the fact Beyonce is charting outside top250 after almost 20 years of career...
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Taylor won't get much higher don't get your hopes up especially now that she abandoned country music.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
Taylor is only 25. And the fact Beyonce is charting outside top250 after almost 20 years of career...
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They only counted Beyoncé's solo career.
DC is at 494, miles higher than Taylor and now that Taylor went full pop I can see she out of the top 2000
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Member Since: 9/4/2012
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Originally posted by ianBK4
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Wow! I didn't realise Crazy In Love was so acclaimed!
Strange how none of the songs off of Beyoncé made the list though.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by Raava
I don't know for sure who the trinity are, but I do know Bey has been replaced. She can't get a WW top 10 hit and her album sales lack longevity. She will rely on the gimmicks of the surprise release to win the AOTY at the Grammy's. Her HBO show lacks views and was beaten by an episode of an anime. She's not a true musician, and relies on the helps of a lot of songwriters to write songs for her. She's a huge celebrity though, like Kim Kardashian or Snooki.
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1. no one cares about frontload as long as your final sales number are excellent. 3.6M in 2014. hello!
2. HBO? so you guys wanna take this paid-channel program, compare it with free channels ratings and run with the fact that she's a flop? lol. no. hopefully she'll drop sth on your heads by Grammy's and shut everybody down.
3. Kardashian, Snooki? who is this? ok. Beyoncé has been gaining more ground in the celebrity land since Blue Ivy but never it has overtaken her music career. proof is that if she posts something on her facebook or IG people gonna buy it. not happening with pure celebrities like Shakira who has 100m facebook followers but can't sell 1M WW.
3. she's not a true musician. tbh once I read this sentence I knew you were very ignorant when it comes to Beyoncé. music critics and peers dont praise you to the heaven if you don't have a real thing behind. I mean when the ultimate musicians that the producers/writers are say that they feel useless besides you then it means you're ****ing genius. Pharell, Timbaland, Prince ....all these Kings and Genius praised her musicianship. bye.
musicianship exhibit 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCpkQg3Stik
musicianship exhibit 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaN2TbWMvuw
musicianship exhibit 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hpxe...4cnwRsgBpHGvMg
musicianship exhibit 4: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPYgjK3T9PM
see you soon in the Fan base with a Beyonc avi and sig hopefully after this once you see the light.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Taylor? How random
This 'trinity' thing y'all talk of is cute, but if it makes you sleep at night....... okay
Y'all can use that #1 WW single thing as an excuse. Because it's cute you all care. If Bey cared about getting a quick little #1, she would follow trends like half of your faves do, payola, mad promo etc. The fact that Drunk when #2 with ONE performance and it's an URBAN song says a lot about her star power. The fact that y'all are saying she hasn't had a global #1 WW hit this decade says a lot. She doesn't need #1's like your fave to stay relevant. She can have no top 10's and have a $200m grossing tour. When will your fave - literally?
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Originally posted by OnikaChrist
What does The Pinkprint sales have to do with Taylor?
There really is no trinity in pop. But since your delusional self thinks there is, it's Beyonce/Gaga, Katy, Rihanna. Lemme elaborate:
Beyonce/Gaga - There positions always change. One year it's Beyonce, the next year it's Gaga. Does Taylor have a song/video/dance (Single Ladies) that has impacted an entire culture? Does your fave have an album (The Fame) that sold 18 million copies worldwide or have songs (Poker Face/Bad Romance) that have sold 10 million copies worldwide ? I think not.
Katy - Taylor has so far gotten only 2 #1 songs on the charts. Katy has 9 #1 songs on the charts. 5 of them came from the same album, and she holds a record with the King of Pop, Michael Jackson for the most #1 songs produced from one album. Need I say more?
Rihanna - A global icon, not only known and acclaimed for her music, but also for her fashion. Just this past year, she was awarded the Fashion Icon award by CFDA, if not, one of the biggest fashion associations in the world.
So until Taylor impacts an entire culture with 1 song/video/dance, sells 18 million copies worldwide of 1 album, gets 5 #1 songs on the charts from the same album, and is a global figure in the music/fashion industry, then we can talk about her being in a pop trinity, that frankly, doesn't even exist.
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By your very own definition, the trinity should be Adele, Katy, Rihanna. Beyoncé and Gaga have nothing to do there
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Member Since: 12/7/2010
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Originally posted by TeemoR
Taylor won't get much higher don't get your hopes up especially now that she abandoned country music.
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Originally posted by ianBK4
They only counted Beyoncé's solo career.
DC is at 494, miles higher than Taylor and now that Taylor went full pop I can see she out of the top 2000
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How clever. You judge the album before the release
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Subomie
Wow! I didn't realise Crazy In Love was so acclaimed!
Strange how none of the songs off of Beyoncé made the list though.
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Making good and acclaimed music since the beginning
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Originally posted by CristianGsix
THIS IS PERFECTION OMG YES. I totally agree.
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Glad to see someone agree.
And to all the Swifties here on ATRL, the more threads like these you post, the harder it is for the non-Swifties to like her this era. So if you're smart, you'd shut up, stop comparing Taylor to anyone, and just watch God move.
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Beyonce has never been a part of the trinity, she replaced Gaga
Couldn't describe the situation better. Rihanna took Bey's spot years ago.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by OnlyManInTheWorld
How clever. You judge the album before the release
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lol i know Taylor she wouldn't change from one day to another.....also i have already heard 2 songs off the album....Out of the woods is completely generic and let me NOT talk about Shake it off....
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Member Since: 12/7/2010
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Originally posted by OnikaChrist
Glad to see someone agree.
And to all the Swifties here on ATRL, the more threads like these you post, the harder it is for the non-Swifties to like her this era. So if you're smart, you'd shut up, stop comparing Taylor to anyone, and just watch God move.
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Lmao everyone loves her, we have more and more new stans in the base, which is the most active base on this site.
+ it's just a random forum, all that matters is that the GP loves Taylor
She's never been more popular. A leader of the trinity.
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Member Since: 4/5/2014
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Originally posted by alestevens
By your very own definition, the trinity should be Adele, Katy, Rihanna. Beyoncé and Gaga have nothing to do there
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Is Adele's music pop?
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I'm so sorry but if you're going to put Katy higher than Beyoncé, you haven't live on Earth the past 2 years. Beyoncé was everywhere and was slaying ALL our faves. I'm not going to compare them because it would be rediculous for Katy. And also Rihanna is bigger than Katy & Taylor. Katy & Taylor are on the same level I think...
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Come to think of it, I don't think Taylor (or Katy) has a song with the cultural impact of Umbrella or Single Ladies.
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Member Since: 6/5/2010
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Originally posted by ianBK4
If this was true, Kim and Snooki's musical career would be successful and why is Beyoncé more praised by critics than Taylor??
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I hope that by "Beyoncé more praise by critics than Taylor" you don't mean Grammy's, which anyone with common sense knows don't mean ****. If you look at Metacritic, you'll know Taylor's average score is higher than Beyoncé's. And even if Self-titled score was higher than any Taylor album, Taylor achieves Her scores solely by herself, while Beyoncé's scores are mainly thanks to a huge amount of songwriters.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by B'Day
Taylor? How random
This 'trinity' thing y'all talk of is cute, but if it makes you sleep at night....... okay
Y'all can use that #1 WW single thing as an excuse. Because it's cute you all care. If Bey cared about getting a quick little #1, she would follow trends like half of your faves do, payola, mad promo etc. The fact that Drunk when #2 with ONE performance and it's an URBAN song says a lot about her star power. The fact that y'all are saying she hasn't had a global #1 WW hit this decade says a lot. She doesn't need #1's like your fave to stay relevant. She can have no top 10's and have a $200m grossing tour. When will your fave - literally?
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