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Discussion: Why isn't P!nk considered the Queen of Pop?
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Speaking about risk taking, P!nk took more risks with her first record than some of your boring one dimensional repetitive ugly faves will ever do.
Gotta love how ATRL talks about their faves like they are some kind of super talented, groundbreaking, risk taking pop stars. 
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Originally posted by Grenn-O
hm she's worked with linda perry, pretty much brought her back into the limelight as a producer (and everybody else wanted a piece of her afterwards). she's also worked (as a "pop mainstream girl") with tim armstrong. she revolted against her label who didn't want her to work with linda or release m!ssundaztood because at the time her style WAS too left-field and too experimental. she pretty much set the trend for other pop girls to be a bit more authentic and darker in their lyrics.
i think when it comes to music, she just likes every genre because her voice just fits everywhere. jazz, soul, rock, rnb, pop, etc. she might have been a little too comfy with the poprock sound as of late, but she will be back with other sounds i'm sure. she still wants to record her selfish acoustic rock record, and if you listen to her acoustic songs, free and when we're through, you know that it will be amazing.
she's like the soulful rock folk singer who's stuck in the pop world.
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I like P!nk, and agree with everything you said here, I was just stating why she isn't considered iconic by the GP. Hopefully she will progress artistically, because pop-rock is starting to sound outdated and overheard.
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Originally posted by alrightsir
She's just got a wax figure which is up in the air, I guess that's means something.
And calling ARTPOP experimental. Let's not.
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ARTPOP is experimental, it isn't the same **** produced by Max Martin/Dr. Luke with the same beat and the same chord progression
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She's not memorable, does not take risks and is not global enough.
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Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant
Indeed one of the most recurrent critiques towards ARTPOP is the fact that it's EDM, but even in that album there are loads of musical experiments, I just don't hear that in P!nk's music. Her genre isn't typical of her, there are many other pop-rock artists, her acrobatics are, but they are only discussed for a few days when they occur, and aren't enough to build a solid status.
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Glitter in the Air was LAUDED on American Idol in early 2014. BYE.
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
She lacks memorable hits who will stand the test of time though.  |
i'm pretty sure most of our pop girls don't have hits like that either.
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
Or the member could have kept it in here. 
Anyways, Her discography is full of generic Pop/Rock songs and lacks any other genre experimentation. That's it. |
Her first album was R&B
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant
ARTPOP is experimental, it isn't the same **** produced by Max Martin/Dr. Luke with the same beat and the same chord progression
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What's the point of being experimental when no one acknowledges it?
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Hmm, let me go listen to some of her last albums so I can come back and clock.
It's been a minute. 
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Originally posted by pinktennisfreak
What's the point of being experimental when no one acknowledges it? |
Success isn't all we need 
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Originally posted by pinktennisfreak
Speaking about risk taking, P!nk took more risks with her first record than some of your boring one dimensional repetitive ugly faves will ever do.
Gotta love how ATRL talks about their faves like they are some kind of super talented, groundbreaking, risk taking pop stars. |
Not too much sis. Let's keep this debate civil and respectful.
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Anyways it was nice seeing a thread about Pink afterall.  Good job OP. 
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Originally posted by pinktennisfreak
Hence why she inspired to Oprah to talk about Stupid Girls phenomenon on her show and called her the smartest pop star. |
And the same song being discussed 2,5 years after its release on The View, where Whoopi said she makes intelligent pop music.
Queen of Smart People 
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Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant
I like P!nk, and agree with everything you said here, I was just stating why she isn't considered iconic by the GP. Hopefully she will progress artistically, because pop-rock is starting to sound outdated and overheard.
ARTPOP is experimental, it isn't the same **** produced by Max Martin/Dr. Luke with the same beat and the same chord progression
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So if it's not Max Martin, it's experimental? 
It's experimental for Gaga but overall nothing new. There might be some songs which are different and sounds interesting but as a whole it's still a normal dance/pop record.
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Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant
I like P!nk, and agree with everything you said here, I was just stating why she isn't considered iconic by the GP. Hopefully she will progress artistically, because pop-rock is starting to sound outdated and overheard.
ARTPOP is experimental, it isn't the same **** produced by Max Martin/Dr. Luke with the same beat and the same chord progression
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i think her glitter in the air performance alone was considered iconic by oprah and so many other media personalities (not to mention people who've seen it on TV). and that's just for that performance alone. i guess the GP very much follows her music and respects her. it's just that ATRL doesn't... and honestly, i am very okay with that.
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Originally posted by TheRoofInhabitant
I like P!nk, and agree with everything you said here, I was just stating why she isn't considered iconic by the GP. Hopefully she will progress artistically, because pop-rock is starting to sound outdated and overheard.
ARTPOP is experimental, it isn't the same **** produced by Max Martin/Dr. Luke with the same beat and the same chord progression
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Max Martin did only 1 song on her latest album and it wasn't even a single
I don't know about Dr Luke but pretty sure she works with Billy Mann & Butch Walker most
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Originally posted by Truth Teller
Because she isn't.
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Originally posted by accelgors
i'm pretty sure most of our pop girls don't have hits like that either.
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Crazy in Love, Single Ladies. Drunk in Love? I guess you would upset the OP with these claims. 
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
She lacks memorable hits who will stand the test of time though. |
- Get The Party Started
- There You Go
- Just Like A Pill
- Family Portrait
- Trouble
- Stupid Girls
- Who Knew
- U + Ur Hand
- Dear Mr. President
- So What
- Raise Your Glass
- ****in' Perfect
Most people would or do know these.
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Originally posted by pinktennisfreak
Speaking about risk taking, P!nk took more risks with her first record than some of your boring one dimensional repetitive ugly faves will ever do.
Gotta love how ATRL talks about their faves like they are some kind of super talented, groundbreaking, risk taking pop stars. |
The hostility 
It's the truth. Even Katy has experimented with different sounds like trap with 'Dark Horse'. All Pink has done for the last 10 years is release the same repetitive generic product. And the worst part is she does all this unknowingly and continues working with Dr Luke/Max Martin and that is why she'll never be a legend. Like Cyndi Lauper Pink will be known for her talents and flair and her 1 or 2 memorable hits (whatever her memorable hits are because I can't even remember them)
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by jackieshann
The hostility
It's the truth. Even Katy has experimented with different sounds like trap with 'Dark Horse'. All Pink has done for the last 10 years is release the same repetitive generic product. And the worst part is she does all this unknowingly and continues working with Dr Luke/Max Martin and that is why she'll never be a legend. Like Cyndi Lauper Pink will be known for her talents and flair and her 1 or 2 memorable hits (whatever her memorable hits are because I can't even remember them) |
OKAY this is IT! I AM DONE WITH THIS FORUM OMG 
P!nk inspires Katy daily, stop being delusional girl
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