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News: ISIS behead US Journalist
Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Goosey
Second, we need to bomb them in retaliation, we can't just sit and let terrorists tell us what to do after they saw off our journalist's heads. Blast the whole place to kingdom come, I say. Then let Chevron set up camp.
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Oh for goodness sake
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Goosey
Excuse me what are you agreeing with the murderous Muslim in that video? To paraphrase J. G. Wentworth, "it's our oil and we need it now!" We already paid for it with American lives.
Second, we need to bomb them in retaliation, we can't just sit and let terrorists tell us what to do after they saw off our journalist's heads. Blast the whole place to kingdom come, I say. Then let Chevron set up camp.
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What are you even talking about? How exactly is it your oil?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Goosey
Excuse me what are you agreeing with the murderous Muslim in that video? To paraphrase J. G. Wentworth, "it's our oil and we need it now!" We already paid for it with American lives.
Second, we need to bomb them in retaliation, we can't just sit and let terrorists tell us what to do after they saw off our journalist's heads. Blast the whole place to kingdom come, I say. Then let Chevron set up camp.
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Don't you realize that bombing them would just create more chaos?
And it's not that I want America to "obey the terrorists" or anything. In fact, i wish they hadn't gotten involved in Iraq in the first place.
This is a great article. Read it carefully and thoroughly and you will see why the a lot of this is the US's fault.
To quote from that article,
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Bombing Iraq has never once made the situation there better.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Goosey
Excuse me what are you agreeing with the murderous Muslim in that video? To paraphrase J. G. Wentworth, "it's our oil and we need it now!" We already paid for it with American lives.
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This is why when I try to justify the oil thing people think I'm crazy
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by alexanderao
I think it's unacceptable to keep trying to intervene in Iraq and Syria. It is none of the US's business who controls the land there. As the executioner said, they will retaliate if the US continues to intervene.
We don't need oil that badly, do we?
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So we should let them continue to oppress the people? It's inhumane to sit back and do nothing when your action could make a difference. I know there are other reasons for involvement (monetary gain), but I would hope that the intervention any outside nation takes on any terrorist group/totalitarian figure would be dealt with swiftly and effectively for the betterment of mankind.
What I'm basically taking away from your comment is that you shouldn't report/intervene in anything that doesn't concern you (say, domestic violence) because it's none of your business. If you can help someone, help.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by Kavish
I hope bestgore uploads it soon.
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I'm gonna imagine that you want to watch the video to see what the ISIS member had to say, like me. In that case, it's up on youtube, you can't see how he kills him or that **** though
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA
This is just awful, I don't think humanity has seen such awful things since Hitler. Radicalism based on religion and terrorism must stop. The video was fortunately removed.
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Well Hitler was nothing compared to slave masters and those who participated in the Atlantic slave trade. Remember millions of slaves were murdered before they even reached the shores of America and this isn't counting the millions that were slaughtered once they reached South/North American soil. This went on for 400yrs, so that dwarfs anything Hitler ever did or was responsible for.
This video is disgusting and barbaric, I hope they catch all involved.
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Originally posted by heavyMlover
Excuse you WHAT?
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I'm talking about the First and the Second Gulf War, over 4500 American soldiers lost their lives.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by hello_world
I watched it. The worst part was how composed he was, he seemed so resigned
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Once you know your end is near, you just come to accept that. It kills your spirit before it kills your body.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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Originally posted by Topherfy
So we should let them continue to oppress the people? It's inhumane to sit back and do nothing when your action could make a difference. I know there are other reasons for involvement (monetary gain), but I would hope that the intervention any outside nation takes on any terrorist group/totalitarian figure would be dealt with swiftly and effectively for the betterment of mankind.
What I'm basically taking away from your comment is that you shouldn't report/intervene in anything that doesn't concern you (say, domestic violence) because it's none of your business. If you can help someone, help.
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I, and everyone outside the States, highly doubt that's US mission there.
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I was about to watch the video but something stopped me and close it, I refuse and this is horrible, people like that should rot in hell
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by alexanderao
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Why do you think they are now working with the Peschmerga Army or disempowered Almaki.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Goosey
Excuse me what are you agreeing with the murderous Muslim in that video? To paraphrase J. G. Wentworth, "it's our oil and we need it now!" We already paid for it with American lives.
Second, we need to bomb them in retaliation, we can't just sit and let terrorists tell us what to do after they saw off our journalist's heads. Blast the whole place to kingdom come, I say. Then let Chevron set up camp.
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You can't bomb a select group. They are too spread out that you'll end up killing civilians and that would be counterproductive. That falls into the needs of the many versus the needs of the few. Those higher up need to figure out a way to stop them with the least amount of civilian casualties.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Rama
I, and everyone outside the States, highly doubt that's US mission there.
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Just to clarify, I was talking about allowing ISIS oppressing people. It shouldn't be allowed.
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Member Since: 3/19/2012
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Originally posted by alexanderao
Don't you realize that bombing them would just create more chaos?
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No, chaos levels are already at maximum. Bombing them would kill many and ruin a lot of their equipment, then when ISIS is in a weakened state, Iraqi security forces could come and kill the rest.
Imagine if the US said "hey Japan is launching parachute firebombs at us and blew up Pearl Harbor, but we aren't going to retaliate because it would create more chaos"
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Topherfy
So we should let them continue to oppress the people? It's inhumane to sit back and do nothing when your action could make a difference. I know there are other reasons for involvement (monetary gain), but I would hope that the intervention any outside nation takes on any terrorist group/totalitarian figure would be dealt with swiftly and effectively for the betterment of mankind.
What I'm basically taking away from your comment is that you shouldn't report/intervene in anything that doesn't concern you (say, domestic violence) because it's none of your business. If you can help someone, help.
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The "if you can help someone, help" argument is a staple of proponents of Iraq intervention, and here's why i disagree with it:
1. If the act of "helping" is going to cost thousands of lives, both civilians living under ISIS and American soldiers (which, if it is implemented, inevitably will), it's not worth it.
2. Just because you can help does not make it your business. The US doesn't need to intervene, and the outcome will likely not matter to the average American civilian (aside from the general "defeat the terrorists and it's good if we win!" rhetoric). Simple as that.
I think a more accurate statement would be "if you can help someone easily and harmlessly, help."
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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Rest in peace
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Originally posted by Goosey
I'm talking about the First and the Second Gulf War, over 4500 American soldiers lost their lives.
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Stop it. It was never your oil. Just because American soldiers died because their country shoved them in that war doesnt mean they have any right in that oil. Bye.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Goosey
No, chaos levels are already at maximum. Bombing them would kill many and ruin a lot of their equipment, then when ISIS is in a weakened state, Iraqi security forces could come and kill the rest.
Imagine if the US said "hey Japan is launching parachute firebombs at us and blew up Pearl Harbor, but we aren't going to retaliate because it would create more chaos"
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Chaos levels are already at maximum
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No. There's no way to know that. ISIS is just now gaining steam and attacking them would rile them up even more. Plus, it would kill loads of civilians.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
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Originally posted by KangBey
Well Hitler was nothing compared to slave masters and those who participated in the Atlantic slave trade. Remember millions of slaves were murdered before they even reached the shores of America and this isn't counting the millions that were slaughtered once they reached South/North American soil. This went on for 400yrs, so that dwarfs anything Hitler ever did or was responsible for.
This video is disgusting and barbaric, I hope they catch all involved.
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Don't make Hitler nicer at he was, he is responsible for 50-70 million lost lives, that would even dwarf the number of lives that were lost due to slavery.
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