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News: Israeli-Palestinian conflict
Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Palestinians are just as racist as Jews are. Not only do they not want co-existence with the Jews, they want total destruction of Israel. They're not just racist against Jews but against Christians as well even within their community, and are even coercing them to convert to Islam. At least Jews have let Palestinian Arabs live in Israel. And there are about 1 million of them enjoying the best quality of life an ordinary citizen can get in the Middle East. While Palestinian officials made it clear that no Jew will ever be permitted to live in a Palestinian state. That is why all democratic countries in the world have their support for the liberal Israel, and not for the violent, intolerant, racist group of people who want to set up a tribal Islamic state in which there will be no democracy in that region. Y'all act like Palestinians are these oppressed helpless victims when in fact when the situation were reversed and Palestinians happen to acquire the power and resources Israelis have, they would not for a second hesitate to eradicate all Jews. That would be the real genocide.
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Member Since: 2/6/2012
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^ Neither side is in the right. Both have done horrible and stupid things during recent years.
However, in this situation it is CLEARLY Israel who is in the position of power. As the one in that position they have a far greater responsibility to show restraint and not abuse their power, and they are failing miserably.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Waffles O'Brien
^ Neither side is in the right. Both have done horrible and stupid things during recent years.
However, in this situation it is CLEARLY Israel who is in the position of power. As the one in that position they have a far greater responsibility to show restraint and not abuse their power, and they are failing miserably.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I can't at the person making this a gay rights issue.Judging an entire country, religion, race, etc on the majority opinion on gay rights while thousands are being slaughtered because of a non-gay issue is just ridiculous
By the way, I'm doing fine here in Palestine. I haven't been murdered
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480-500+ killed
3150 injured.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
If Israel is lost to the Islam nation(s), all gays in the middle east will be persecuted, killed, and even murdered in the name of their religion.
Only Israel accepts our kind, our sexuality, our family, with open arms. Only Israel supports gay rights (aside from gay marriage). It's the only safe haven for gay people in the middle east.
What would happen if Israel is gone?
You guys are saying "free Palestine" now, but if Palestine ever get a hold of Israel, it will be all of you, the same people who will be turning your back on them for persecuting extreme Islamic acts, especially on gay people.
So just food for thought, this is not Israel's fault. Stop demonizing them.
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Wow this post is probably the worst post I have come across in my life. Where is this even coming from? What in the WORLD. How selfish of you to make this whole conflict about justifying being a member of LGBT?
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Member Since: 3/5/2014
Posts: 7,746
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Originally posted by Waffles O'Brien
^ Neither side is in the right. Both have done horrible and stupid things during recent years.
However, in this situation it is CLEARLY Israel who is in the position of power. As the one in that position they have a far greater responsibility to show restraint and not abuse their power, and they are failing miserably.
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Yeah, I don't think anyone can disagree that both sides have done wrong things, but at the same time people don't seem to look at from the Palestinians' perspective. They have nothing else they can do, they have to fight back. You cannot condemn a country for fighting for its life. That's not "terrorism", that's survival.
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Originally posted by Caesar
Like someone posted before
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And then Israel says that "Hamas told the Palestinians to stay where they were" as if the Palestinians would do what Hamas tells them to do at this point after so many deaths.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Waffles O'Brien
^ Neither side is in the right. Both have done horrible and stupid things during recent years.
However, in this situation it is CLEARLY Israel who is in the position of power. As the one in that position they have a far greater responsibility to show restraint and not abuse their power, and they are failing miserably.
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This. Like, I really can't at people who are completely for either side wiping out the other. That's not the answer. And the gay rights issue has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.
The point is, nothing Palestine is doing is justification for Israel slaughtering hundreds upon hundreds of INNOCENT Palestinian men, women and children. Likewise, Palestine would not be justified in killing innocent Israeli either, but that's really not what's been happening. Israel is in the position of power right now, and if they wanted to stop this fighting, they know exactly how to do it. At this point in the war, the Palestinians are just trying to defend themselves and the lives of their families. Israel wants to drive Palestine out of Gaza, but where do they expect them to go? They have no where to run.
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by cloudinthesky
This. Like, I really can't at people who are completely for either side wiping out the other. That's not the answer. And the gay rights issue has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.
The point is, nothing Palestine is doing is justification for Israel slaughtering hundreds upon hundreds of INNOCENT Palestinian men, women and children. Likewise, Palestine would not be justified in killing innocent Israeli either, but that's really not what's been happening. Israel is in the position of power right now, and if they wanted to stop this fighting, they know exactly how to do it. At this point in the war, the Palestinians are just trying to defend themselves and the lives of their families. Israel wants to drive Palestine out of Gaza, but where do they expect them to go? They have no where to run.
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Israel is not driving Gazans out of their land. It's the other way around. Palestinian terrorists are trying to infiltrate Israel from Gaza using underground tunnels which is what this ground offense by Israel aims to destroy. I mean, read the news.
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Member Since: 7/23/2010
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Originally posted by Waffles O'Brien
^ Neither side is in the right. Both have done horrible and stupid things during recent years.
However, in this situation it is CLEARLY Israel who is in the position of power. As the one in that position they have a far greater responsibility to show restraint and not abuse their power, and they are failing miserably.
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Civilian deaths are inevitable when attacks are carried out in densely populated areas like Gaza. No amount of restraint will minimize that.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
If Israel is lost to the Islam nation(s), all gays in the middle east will be persecuted, killed, and even murdered in the name of their religion.
You guys are saying "free Palestine" now, but if Palestine ever get a hold of Israel, it will be all of you, the same people who will be turning your back on them for persecuting extreme Islamic acts, especially on gay people.
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I agree with you on this,but the loss of lives in this situation is disheartening.I know both sides have their greiviances,but they need to put this aside and employ diplomacy in handling this issue like the US have been suggesting.
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Member Since: 2/6/2012
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Originally posted by fabbriche
Civilian deaths are inevitable when attacks are carried out in densely populated areas like Gaza. No amount of restraint will minimize that.
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I was also referring to the illegal settlements.
Just because you have the power to cheat and steal land, doesn't mean you should.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Not a bunch of idiots justifying Israel's actions just because gays will get less punishment for living in Israel. Poor you, I hope you don't get your brains blown out of your skull like those worthless Palestinian children.
Think before you write.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by Saturn
When people say 'praying for Israel' what exactly are you really praying for?
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For their swift mental recovery.
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
Yes innocent people, helpless children are dying, but are Israelites the only ones to blame?
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Yeah, you usually blame the murderer
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I'm praying for Israel, and for their land, and I'm also praying for the innocent Palestine people. it's Hamas we should be blaming.
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Yeah Hamas is to blame partially. Though, what Israeli damage are they actually doing with their poor military (or lack thereof) and stone-age weapons?
But sigh, I guess Israel should be considered to be "defending themselves". Like if someone throws something on my lawn then I'm going to have to burn their ****ing house down and find there whole bloodline as a means of "defending myself"
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by Kali.
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We did. News outlets didn't and neither are they now.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Mhs90
We did. News outlets didn't and neither are they now.
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Weird. I never seen as many death wishes and Hitler references as I do now.
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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No one cares when Muslims fight with Muslims, I guess.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Mhs90
But sigh, I guess Israel should be considered to be "defending themselves". Like if someone throws something on my lawn then I'm going to have to burn their ****ing house down and find there whole bloodline as a means of "defending myself"
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Also this post bothers me. It's not really like someone throwing a rock at you. Hamas launches rockets to kill civilians so it's more like: someone tries to shoot and kill your family but misses. What do you do?
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Kali.
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Thank you for that, that's what I'm trying to say.
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