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Discussion: Billboard: Why "Fancy" is smashing
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Originally posted by YoYo
it wasnt a coincidence that they put the beat of the song as the #1 reason while calling it "the backbone".
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He was trying to make me seem dumb to make himself look smart. It's obvious why it's a hit.
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Originally posted by CannibalMonster
Because she's white.
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the sheer ignorance
the constant immediate clocking
your avi
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Originally posted by MiMiLamb
Mess this list is so extra, just say it's catchy
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the fact someone acknowledged that her being white played a part in her success is considered racism is just
what the **** this forum
what
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This thread is a damn mess. Fancy is a catchy song with a good video which both have great replay value which is the reason most songs go to #1 on the charts anyway.
I don't think the race card is relevant in this situation. But it is hard for other enthic artists to get hits especially #1s on Billboard if their songs do not have any pop elements than a white artist. This is a fact.
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Originally posted by FAME.
We are. You're the one that seems to be having trouble accepting this. Iggy is white and being white gives you perks that being black never will. Deal with it.
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Yet this conversation NEVER comes up with any other artists.
No one said that Roar went number 1 because Katy is white, or that Tik Tok went number one because Kesha is white.
Why suddenly with Iggy is her being white the reason she's successful?
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Originally posted by FAME.
Oh dear. You seem to be missing the bigger picture here. White people, in general, not just in music, in the world period, have more opportunities and advantages than black people. In every field, in every endeavor. Because that is how society is.
People pointing out that Iggy being white has helped her isn't "slamming" her that is literal facts considering being white helps EVERYONE every single day.
The fact that y'all seem to be under the impression that race isn't a factor here when the reality is race is a factor to EVERYTHING in the real world whether you recognize it or not (You probably don't because you don't have to, it's called white privilage).
Nobody is saying Fancy isn't catchy, or doesn't have a dope beat. But the fact that Iggy is white and singing it automatically gives it way more vast appeal, acceptance that it wouldn't get from certain people if she was say, Angel Haze.
Congrats to Iggy on her #1 but to act like race just has nothing to do with it is
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Race has nothing to do with her success. Work flopped which was her first single sent for promo, why? Like seriously, get a grip.
There are successful black and white artists. It's not about the color of your skin, it's about the music. As for Angel Haze, her time hasn't come yet. Also let's not act like Iggy is one of the thousands of white female rappers to be successful. She's probably one of the VERY few white female rappers who had success so it's refreshing that she's doing really well.
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Originally posted by jomarr
Race has nothing to do with her success. Work flopped which was her first single sent for promo, why? Like seriously, get a grip.
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you are missing the bigger picture here but ok
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Originally posted by Lethal
Why is everything about race with you. Much to your dismay, people outside of ATRL aren't obsessed with which race has more advantages when it comes to success. (No offence) Saying that the song is smashing only because she is white is not only very ignorant but also very racist. And this is coming from a black person.
Stop trying to discredit her for literally everything my gosh
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To me?! Everything is about race because that is the world we live in
If you're seriously trying to tell me you're black and act completely unaware with how much race plays a part in literally everything in the real world, I'm going to have to just dismiss you. There is NOTHING racist about pointing out that white people have advantages because that is a pure fact.
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Originally posted by FAME.
Oh dear. You seem to be missing the bigger picture here. White people, in general, not just in music, in the world period, have more opportunities and advantages than black people. In every field, in every endeavor. Because that is how society is.
People pointing out that Iggy being white has helped her isn't "slamming" her that is literal facts considering being white helps EVERYONE every single day.
The fact that y'all seem to be under the impression that race isn't a factor here when the reality is race is a factor to EVERYTHING in the real world whether you recognize it or not (You probably don't because you don't have to, it's called white privilage).
Nobody is saying Fancy isn't catchy, or doesn't have a dope beat. But the fact that Iggy is white and singing it automatically gives it way more vast appeal, acceptance that it wouldn't get from certain people if she was say, Angel Haze.
Congrats to Iggy on her #1 but to act like race just has nothing to do with it when race has to do with everything is When her being white is the reason why her RAP song is being played on Top 40 radio stations If this was a Remy ma song it would be on Urban radio only. When being white automatically gives her international appeal that majority of black artists will never get.
But y'all are too dense to comprehend this. So I'm not expecting you to.
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This is all true but the issue is why is it being brought up here? Is it just because she raps or because people are pressed?
No one said Wrecking Ball, Roar, Rolling in the Deep, Born this Way, etc. etc. went #1 because the singer was white. So why is it relevant here? I think a black rapper could have made this go #1. Nicki could, if Azalea Banks had kept momentum she could have. It went number one because everything was aligned for it to happen (album release, Problem, buildup, ziegiesty video etc.) Whiteness isn't a burden for her but it doesn't automatically make it #1.
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Originally posted by FAME.
To me?! Everything is about race because that is the world we live in
If you're seriously trying to tell me you're black and act completely unaware with how much race plays a part in literally everything in the real world, I'm going to have to just dismiss you. There is NOTHING racist about pointing out that white people have advantages because that is a pure fact.
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Fancy sounds like Paranoid...except for the Chorus
Yes at Charli being the higher reason
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Originally posted by FAME.
To me?! Everything is about race because that is the world we live in
If you're seriously trying to tell me you're black and act completely unaware with how much race plays a part in literally everything in the real world, I'm going to have to just dismiss you. There is NOTHING racist about pointing out that white people have advantages because that is a pure fact.
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Punch the good sis a biT.
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People need to give up on shading Iggy Azalea. It is quite pathetic.
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Originally posted by FAME.
To me?! Everything is about race because that is the world we live in
If you're seriously trying to tell me you're black and act completely unaware with how much race plays a part in literally everything in the real world, I'm going to have to just dismiss you. There is NOTHING racist about pointing out that white people have advantages because that is a pure fact.
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No one is arguing that.
People are arguing that Iggy only got a number 1 because she's white, which is a flat out absurd claim to make.
You have NO IDEA if the song would have gone number one if she were black.
Most people who hear the song, at least that I know, think she IS black until they see the video or are told otherwise.
To claim that her song and she are only successful because she's white is just ridiculous.
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Originally posted by Colin
Yet this conversation NEVER comes up with any other artists.
No one said that Roar went number 1 because Katy is white, or that Tik Tok went number one because Kesha is white.
Why suddenly with Iggy is her being white the reason she's successful?
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Originally posted by swissman
This is all true but the issue is why is it being brought up here? Is it just because she raps or because people are pressed?
No one said Wrecking Ball, Roar, Rolling in the Deep, Born this Way, etc. etc. went #1 because the singer was white. So why is it relevant here? I think a black rapper could have made this go #1. Nicki could, if Azalea Banks had kept momentum she could have. It went number one because everything was aligned for it to happen (album release, Problem, buildup, ziegiesty video etc.) Whiteness isn't a burden for her but it doesn't automatically make it #1.
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Being white has helped them too but it's not relevant to mention in their cases because they aren't rappers/in hip hop. The reason it's mentioned so much in Iggy's case is because majority of her counterparts in her field are black. A lot of her feats are often tied to rap/hip hop and it's worth mentioning that while yes, she may be the first "rapper" to do this or that. She is also white unlike the rest of them.
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Originally posted by FAME.
To me?! Everything is about race because that is the world we live in
If you're seriously trying to tell me you're black and act completely unaware with how much race plays a part in literally everything in the real world, I'm going to have to just dismiss you.
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I honestly feel bad for you (in a good way) if some of you are so bothered by this subject it's probably because of some personal experiences you've had and I can't troll with stuff like that so do you, God knows the world can be very cruel and unfair sometimes. I hope you still live a happy and successful life. :/
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Charli so fancy
You already know
Shes in the fast lane
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Originally posted by FAME.
Being white has helped them too but it's not relevant to mention in their cases because they aren't rappers. The reason it's mentioned so much in Iggy's case is because majority of her counterparts in her field are black.
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If being white helps rappers be successful why are there so few big white rappers?
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