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Hilary Duff's "Reach Out" to premiere next month!
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Originally posted by Afterglow
Nope. You can't just declare a flop in the USA because you'd need to know how many copies were/have been shipped in the US. And how many of those have actually been sold. If the album had 1,000,000 shipped by the label, and it sold 420,000 of that, then that is a flop of course. But if 500,000 have been shipped, and it has sold 420,000 of that, then that is not declared a flop record. Below her previous album sales? yes. You can't just declare a flop becuase the sales LOOK low to YOU.
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LOL more than 500k albums have been shipped. That gold certification was back June or July, I believe, when she had only sold about 280k.
Man, clearly you know nothing about the music industry. Stop trying.
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Originally posted by Right Now
LOL more than 500k albums have been shipped. That gold certification was back June or July, I believe, when she had only sold about 280k.
Man, clearly you know nothing about the music industry. Stop trying.
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I do know about the music industry, and I say that you can't declare a flop unless you know 100% everything about the amount of albums that have been shipped and the exact amount that has been sold. You surely don't know everything about it, so stop trying to act as if you do.
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Originally posted by Alexz
Yeah, she's never had a hit song.
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I say "Come Clean" was her first 'big' hit in the usa, because it was like #8 on radio I believe.
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Originally posted by Afterglow
I do know about the music industry, and I say that you can't declare a flop unless you know 100% everything about the amount of albums that have been shipped and the exact amount that has been sold. You surely don't know everything about it, so stop trying to act as if you do.
I say "Come Clean" was her first 'big' hit in the usa, because it was like #8 on radio I believe.
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Oh please Terrell, you just love to repeat what others have previously said. There's absolutely nothing original in your posts. For example, I said to "stop trying" to act as if you know everything about the music industry & what do you know? You re-word something that I said. loI
& I sure know much more about the music industry than you. Anyway this conversation is over, I encourage you to keep posting everything you "know" about the music industry though, because it always makes for a good laugh.
BTW - CC reached #9 on radio.
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Originally posted by Right Now
Oh please Terrell, you just love to repeat what others have previously said. There's absolutely nothing original in your posts. For example, I said to "stop trying" to act as if you know everything about the music industry & what do you know? You re-word something that I said. loI
& I sure know much more about the music industry than you. Anyway this conversation is over, I encourage you to keep posting everything you "know" about the music industry though, because it always makes for a good laugh.
BTW - CC reached #9 on radio.
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Terrell the album flopped. Although this excuse of not knowing how many copies were shipped is a new pathetic low. Congrats.
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Originally posted by Alexz
Yeah, she's never had a hit song.
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She's never had a HUGE hit, but "So Yesterday," "Come Clean," "Wake Up," & "With Love" were all moderate hits.
It's funny though because people act like it's SO bad that she hasn't had a huge hit when she's sold over 13.5 million copies off her solo albums alone. Not including single sales & soundtrack sales. I doubt she's at home crying.
Plus let's not forget how many people try to sell & can't even manage 100k. Hilary has nothing to worry about.
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Originally posted by Right Now
Oh please Terrell, you just love to repeat what others have previously said. There's absolutely nothing original in your posts. For example, I said to "stop trying" to act as if you know everything about the music industry & what do you know? You re-word something that I said. loI
& I sure know much more about the music industry than you. Anyway this conversation is over, I encourage you to keep posting everything you "know" about the music industry though, because it always makes for a good laugh.
BTW - CC reached #9 on radio.
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Please, like you know EVERYTHING about the music industry becuase you get 100% 'exlusive news' on what Hilary or Hollywood Records is doing. Wow. And I repeat what you say because I re-word your comments to relate to my argument. It's a sarcastic thing. I actually have a dad that co-owns two record labels, and has put out his own records and worked with multiple big name artists. Thanx.
And thanks, #9 - #8 either is good.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Terrell the album flopped. Although this excuse of not knowing how many copies were shipped is a new pathetic low. Congrats.
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Don't use my name just because someone else used it trick.
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Originally posted by Right Now
She's never had a HUGE hit, but "So Yesterday," "Come Clean," "Wake Up," & "With Love" were all moderate hits.
It's funny though because people act like it's SO bad that she hasn't had a huge hit when she's sold over 13.5 million copies off her solo albums alone. Not including single sales & soundtrack sales. I doubt she's at home crying.
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Trust me, Hilary doesn't give a **** about her sales, it's us the chart fans that care about them. And the only one that cries in her room is Afterglow.
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Originally posted by Right Now
She's never had a HUGE hit, but "So Yesterday," "Come Clean," "Wake Up," & "With Love" were all moderate hits.
It's funny though because people act like it's SO bad that she hasn't had a huge hit when she's sold over 13.5 million copies off her solo albums alone. Not including single sales & soundtrack sales. I doubt she's at home crying.
Plus let's not forget how many people try to sell & can't even manage 100k. Hilary has nothing to worry about.
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Well, with the way Dignity went, I seriously think she should consider a pint of ice cream to go along with her tears & movie.
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Originally posted by Afterglow
Please, like you know EVERYTHING about the music industry becuase you get 100% 'exlusive news' on what Hilary or Hollywood Records is doing. Wow. And I repeat what you say because I re-word your comments to relate to my argument. It's a sarcastic thing. I actually have a dad that co-owns two record labels, and has put out his own records and worked with multiple big name artists. Thanx.
Don't use my name just because someone else used it trick.
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Clearly, that's not how I've studied music & learned about it. What a dumb kid.
Ok what does you dad "co-owning" two labels have to do with our sales discussion? Nothing. lol
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Originally posted by Alexz
Trust me, Hilary doesn't give a **** about her sales, it's us the chart fans that care about them. And the only one that cries in her room is Afterglow.
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How do you know what HIlary gives a **** about? Im sure she's hella happy she's sold as many records as she has!
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Originally posted by Afterglow
Don't use my name just because someone else used it trick.
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I used your name because it used to be apart of your username before you switched to your Fagerella name.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Terrell the album flopped. Although this excuse of not knowing how many copies were shipped is a new pathetic low. Congrats.
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Originally posted by Right Now
Clearly, that's not how I've studied music & learned about. What a dumb kid.
Ok what does you dad "co-owning" two labels have to do with our sales discussion? Nothing. lol
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I was obviously not addressing you with the name comment. Of course that didn't have to deal with the sales discussion, it dealt with the fact that you said I know nothing of the industry which I clearly do and you can't base that on my opinion that you should know the sales and shipments before declaring a flop album.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Well, with the way Dignity went, I seriously think she should consider a pint of ice cream to go along with her tears & movie.
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420k in the US, Over 1 mil worldwide. Buying a pint of ice cream or 100 pints of ice cream for that matter, would be under the sofa cushion change for her.
Let's not forget she earned over 12 mil last year.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
I used your name because it used to be apart of your username before you switched to your Fagerella name.
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Originally posted by Afterglow
I was obviously not addressing you with the name comment. Of course that didn't have to deal with the sales discussion, it dealt with the fact that you said I know nothing of the industry which I clearly do and you can't base that on my opinion that you should know the sales and shipments before declaring a flop album.
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Obviously knowing shipments has to do with whether an album flops or not, but that doesn't change the fact that her album did flop.
I'm sorry but you're not bringing up a reasonable argument. =/ Sorry.
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Originally posted by Right Now
420k in the US, Over 1 mil worldwide. Buying a pint of ice cream or 100 pints of ice cream for that matter, would be under the sofa cushion change for her.
Let's not forget she earned over 12 mil last year.
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Well, I was just considering the fact that you say she shouldn't worry about flopping singles since she sold so much, but since Dignity only continued her flopping singles, but didn't back up with sales, she should now worry. IMO, I wouldn't want to go out of my music career if I had her totals and so early.
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Originally posted by Right Now
Obviously knowing shipments has to do with whether an album flops or not, but that doesn't change the fact that her album did flop.
I'm sorry but you're not bringing up a reasonable argument. =/ Sorry.
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It's still a matter of opinion to me. But either way, lets stop arguing! I don't want to argue with a fellow HFer!!
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
Well, I was just considering the fact that you say she shouldn't worry about flopping singles since she sold so much, but since Dignity only continued her flopping singles, but didn't back up with sales, she should now worry. IMO, I wouldn't want to go out of my music career if I had her totals and so early.
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flopping singles?
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