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Discussion: Has Beyonce surpassed Janet Jackson in cultural impact?
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Originally posted by HOVnika
Janet has 5 more albums than Beyoncé, and in the space of those 5 albums, there's a lot more culture and social factors that match this generation than there is with Janet's music, in terms of quality.. Janet's discography is very easy to forget, since it feels like she's "whispering" the same song to us 10-fold. Beyoncés visuals are unmatched when it comes to tours, Beyoncé puts 100% into the vocals and dancing, this tour has been her most creative yet if i'm honest, but as for cultural impact YES, Beyoncé relates to todays culture alot more that Janet attempted to with her last 4 album from the 00's, but All for You, Feedback, Call On Me, Feedback are bops.
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This is all so ignorant, lol.
Control, RN1814, Janet., and The Velvet Rope are some of the best Pop/R&B albums of all time. They've had a lot of impact.
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Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
Janet is a pop artist. Don't be racist. And don't be ignorant, your ignorance does not reflect the facts. If your world can be summarized with current pop girls, I feel sorry.
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Don't be racist..? I'm not ignorant, I've just honestly never heard the name 'Janet Jackson' uttered in the real world in my entire life & many others can relate to this. Sorry.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by lilMonsterKayla
Ew, the R&B fanatics on this board push too hard to make Janet's impact a thing. It never happened and it's non-existent today, accept it & move on.
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Let's look at who janet has influenced heavily:
. Britney Spears
. Beyonce
. Xtina
. Rihanna
. P!nk
. Bruno Mars
. Selena Gomez
. Mariah Carey
. Lady Gaga
. JLO
. Jessica Simspon
. Aaliyah
. Brandy
. Nicole Scherzinger
. Ciara
. Jessie Ware, a whole host of k pop and japanese singers
etc.... and it never happened sis . Open up a history book it's not cute you do realize youtube, the fusion of genres you listen to all the way to your expectations of choreography that you have for pop girls etc... wouldn't exist without Janet.
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Originally posted by HOVnika
Janet has 5 more albums than Beyoncé, and in the space of those 5 albums, there's a lot more culture and social factors that match this generation than there is with Janet's music, in terms of quality.. Janet's discography is very easy to forget, since it feels like she's "whispering" the same song to us 10-fold. Beyoncés visuals are unmatched when it comes to tours, Beyoncé puts 100% into the vocals and dancing, this tour has been her most creative yet if i'm honest, but as for cultural impact YES, Beyoncé relates to todays culture alot more that Janet attempted to with her last 4 album from the 00's, but All for You, Feedback, Call On Me, Feedback are bops.
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What Janet albums are you listening to? Just the 2000s ones? lol
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Originally posted by lilMonsterKayla
Ew, the R&B fanatics on this board push too hard to make Janet's impact a thing. It never happened and it's non-existent today, accept it & move on.
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It's your lie, I'll let you tell it
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Originally posted by Willy.
This is all so ignorant, lol.
Control, RN1814, Janet., and The Velvet Rope are some of the best Pop/R&B albums of all time. They've had a lot of impact.
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You can tell which person has and has not listened to Janet's material.
Janet has tons of songs that she doesn't whisper on only those who got into her latest work are saying this.
Not to mention songs like Free Xone,New Agenda,Living In A world (They Didn't Make) and other songs with social commentary. Please stop.
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Originally posted by HOVnika
Janet has 5 more albums than Beyoncé, and in the space of those 5 albums, there's a lot more culture and social factors that match this generation than there is with Janet's music, in terms of quality.. Janet's discography is very easy to forget, since it feels like she's "whispering" the same song to us 10-fold. Beyoncés visuals are unmatched when it comes to tours, Beyoncé puts 100% into the vocals and dancing, this tour has been her most creative yet if i'm honest, but as for cultural impact YES, Beyoncé relates to todays culture alot more that Janet attempted to with her last 4 album from the 00's, but All for You, Feedback, Call On Me, Feedback are bops.
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So basically you tried to say that today's generation relates more to Beyoncé than to Janet, which is an obvious fact. Meanwhile you're being ignorant talking about Janet's vocals since you probably never heard most of her material, and probably never saw any Janet tour. You're also ignoring Janet's contribution to the current generation of stars and couldn't even balance if Beyoncé's can match hers. Congratulations. Full of ignorance.
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This topic has been done to death. Why not compare Janet to her peers (Mariah, Madonna, Whitney & Celine). Beyoncé will continue to reign supreme for her generation.
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Originally posted by Gangsta4alife
Let's look at who janet has influenced heavily:
. Britney Spears
. Beyonce
. Xtina
. Rihanna
. P!nk
. Bruno Mars
. Selena Gomez
. Mariah Carey
. Lady Gaga
. JLO
. Jessica Simspon
. Aaliyah
. Brandy
. Nicole Scherzinger
. Ciara
. Jessie Ware, a whole host of k pop and japanese singers
etc.... and it never happened sis . Open up a history book it's not cute you do realize youtube, the fusion of genres you listen to all the way to your expectations of choreography that you have for pop girls etc... wouldn't exist without Janet.
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A list of artists inspired/influenced by Beyonce. Along with k pop and japanese singers as well.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of...y_Beyonc%C3%A9
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Originally posted by lilMonsterKayla
Don't be racist..? I'm not ignorant, I've just honestly never heard the name 'Janet Jackson' uttered in the real world in my entire life & many others can relate to this. Sorry.
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You're less than 15 years old, I could bet. Am I right?
And yes, you're racist to call her fans R&B stans just because she is black.
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Originally posted by Bitchcraft
But i see you perchT im her threads every week?
Kii
but you have enough knowledge to know who keshia cole is? keep it cute sis!
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Sinny is being sarcastic. He's a Janet fan.
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
What Janet albums are you listening to? Just the 2000s ones? lol
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but we're speaking on cultural impact right? so why not compare the space in which they both worked in.. the 00's
as a "culture" we're musically and socially nothing like the 80's/90's.
So if we don't compare that, then this discussion is null & void.
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Originally posted by HOVnika
Janet has 5 more albums than Beyoncé, and in the space of those 5 albums, there's a lot more culture and social factors that match this generation than there is with Janet's music, in terms of quality.. Janet's discography is very easy to forget,
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Well tell that to list of people who are heavily influenced by her. Easy to forget yet four of her albums are considered to be some of the best of all time and more influential than every pop girl today.
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Beyoncés visuals are unmatched when it comes to tours, Beyoncé puts 100% into the vocals and dancing, this tour has been her most creative yet if i'm honest,
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You do realize janet set the standard for performances and choreography sis??
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but as for cultural impact YES, Beyoncé relates to todays culture alot more that Janet attempted to with her last 4 album from the 00's, but All for You, Feedback, Call On Me, Feedback are bops.
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Who cares about the last four albums. TVR, Rhythm Nation, Control and Janet. are way more influential. And the reason why Beyonce merges the genres she does in her music. Because of Janet she is the reason why it is expected of Bey to do full fledged choreography. Because of Janet she is the reason why Beyonce and a whole host of other woman are more free to express their sexuality. I mean
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
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SO.... that list is NOWHERE as big a sJanet's. Nor is Beyonce's contributions to music or her blueprint exceed janet. Janet still remains more impactful/influential and will remain that way for quite some time. And the people Janet influenced expands more genres of musicians all the way to actors. I mean Bey ain't touching that
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Originally posted by bijonse
janet is the reason youtube (and thus the only receipts some of yall can use) exist and bey took it to the next level with the first viral sensation, single ladies
both queens
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Girlfriend was viral in youtube first
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Originally posted by Smooth Criminal
You're less than 15 years old, I could bet. Am I right?
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No & why are you creepily placing bets on my age..? I've never heard Janet discussed in my entire life, not even during the Super Bowl scandal (the biggest moment in her career). Accept my point of view & move on.
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Originally posted by TheOnlyOne
Without Janet, there'd be no Beyonce, so no. Absolutely not.
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I think you are confusing Janet with Tina Turner. Janet's influence isn't seen in Bey's music or performances and especially not her vocals. I've never seen Janet dance in high heels and she doesn't have the powerhouse vocals that Bey and Tina have. Without Janet there would be no Britney or Ciara etc. But Bey and Janet are apples and oranges.
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
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Janet would never.
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Originally posted by JustActinUP
This topic has been done to death. Why not compare Janet to her peers (Mariah, Madonna, Whitney & Celine). Beyoncé will continue to reign supreme for her generation.
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Pretty much this. It makes no sense to compare them because they are not peers. Janet being one of the people upstream from Beyoncé will always make a question of whose cultural impact is bigger as Bey is an extension of Janet's legacy in many ways (as well as a number of other greats like Michael, Tina, Diana etc) just impossible. No way around that. It will always devolve into foolishness with those that are uneducated about Janet's work and accomplishments spewing nonsense and those that are fans of Janet denying and belittling Bey's accomplishments...just from both sides. So exhausting.
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