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Poll: "Global icons" Shaki & Rih underperforming / flopping: why?
View Poll Results: Why are the global icons underperforming?
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I think ATRL overestimated their global power tbh.
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I think their fan bases are just not that big tbh.
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Just wait! The song will rise again! Rise CRTFY rise, this is the beginning!
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Don't care. The Maleficent (Jolie's next movie) sneak peek slayed me though.
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Originally posted by ally23
This!
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Originally posted by Erotic
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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I dont think no promo is really an excuse. Rihannas features/singles usually shoot to number 1 in the us.
the monster flew up effortlessly just 2 months ago and it was released under very similar circumstances as this song (went on itunes hours after a radio premiere, no performances, no video at that time, no real promo)
the answer(i think) is that shakira is a very gp artist. People dont check fpr her musicespecially not in the us-they buy it once they hear it on radio or wherever. In addition, the song doesnt sound like a hit at all to me.
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It's just not a good song.
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Member Since: 2/17/2010
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The song is not bad. Not bad at all actually. People were expecting a different sound which is understandable, but Shakira decided to follow her artistic integrity (which is highly praised here only if the product is successful) and I'm yet to decide if it was the right decision to feature Rihanna on this song or she should've saved the collaboration on the album for a "safer" song, just in case. Anyhow, because it's not clicking with the general public doesn't mean its a bad song.
Besides, Shakira's last charts hit was years ago. CRTFY peaked the highest in countries where she was lacking before (UK #6 and the US #8) thanks to Rihanna's help.
Also, lets wait until after the video.
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Member Since: 6/2/2012
Posts: 37,284
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Originally posted by Ascension
You're answering for someone else tho. I was just responding to what *he* wrote and *I* read -- not what he "meant" according to *you*. ---------->
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It's obvious though. No one is going to say "appealing to the GP" instead of "good".
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Member Since: 9/11/2012
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Song is a little bit weak and there was no hype for it except the speculations on ATRL
the song will eventually take of with video release and since this is the first single shak will obviously promote it
And the song is not as bad and campy as the Maleficent trailer though
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Originally posted by BajanBeauty
Poor thing you jumped ship that fast
- & The irony. Acceptance is the key but yet you couldn't wait to report me for stating the truth. Girl bye
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1) This thread is not about me. It's not that serious, honey.
2) I didn't report you hihi.
Anywayz, ATRL has voted. We overestimated their global power.
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Rihanna's power is so overrated. Selling 1 million albums, is 10x more powerful than selling 1 million singles. If ATRL realised how little a hit single means in terms of your star power, maybe CRTFY wouldn't have been predicted to "smash and block Dark Horse". Rihanna needs hit singles to stay relevant, she has nothing else going for her. The only reason the song's "underperforming" is due to the fact ATRL set the standard so high, due to Rihanna being featured, not realising she lacks star power to instantly get a large amount of people to buy the song. Considering how bad/good the song is, its chart performance seems ok. I'm sure the video release will help in EU and SA, it will probably become a solid hit there. Shakira hasn't been big in America for quite a while, and ulike what most of ATRL thought, adding Rihanna did not help it perform better in the Western world (UK, US, AUS etc).
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Member Since: 1/1/2012
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Originally posted by Яeo.
The song is not bad. Not bad at all actually. People were expecting a different sound which understandable, but Shakira decided to follow her artistic integrity (which is highly praised here only if the product is successful) and I'm yet to decide if it was the right move to feature Rihanna on this song or she should've saved the collaboration on the album for a "safer" song, just in case. Anyhow, because it's not clicking with the general public doesn't mean its a bad song.
Besides, Shakira's last charts hit was years ago. CRTFY peaked the highest in countries where she was lacking before (UK #6 and the US #8) thanks to Rihanna's help.
Also, lets wait until after the video.
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Agreed, but i don't think Rihanna added AS MUCH as people think. Rihanna is very popular with the gp, she isn't as stan base oriented as Gaga. Therefore things like this have little impact.
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The song is awful! I love Rihanna, but she can't save this song.
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Member Since: 12/21/2011
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Originally posted by Signs
Rihanna's power is so overrated. Selling 1 million albums, is 10x more powerful than selling 1 million singles. If ATRL realised how little a hit single means in terms of your star power, maybe CRTFY wouldn't have been predicted to "smash and block Dark Horse". Rihanna needs hit singles to stay relevant, she has nothing else going for her. The only reason the song's "underperforming" is due to the fact ATRL set the standard so high, due to Rihanna being featured, not realising she lacks star power to instantly get a large amount of people to buy the song. Considering how bad/good the song is, its chart performance seems ok. I'm sure the video release will help in EU and SA, it will probably become a solid hit there. Shakira hasn't been big in America for quite a while, and ulike what most of ATRL thought, adding Rihanna did not help it perform better in the Western world (UK, US, AUS etc).
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You can write essay telling how she only has singles but she still sold more albums than your "albums" artist fave
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Member Since: 2/17/2010
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This scenario reminds me of when she released the first single from Oral Fixation Vol. 2, "Don't Bother", which is a rock oriented track and it received lukewarm responses from the world and peaked poorly on the charts. After that under-performance, she released "Hips Don't Lie" which went on to become one of the biggest hits ever and the biggest hit of her career
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Member Since: 12/29/2011
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What? Is it really doing worse than Work Bitch?
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Member Since: 5/7/2011
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ATRL mistook 'Being relevant, but not particularly successful in the US' with 'Being a Global Force'.
If Rihanna wasn't on this song and it performed exactly the same way it is now very few people on here would've noticed how it was performing.
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Member Since: 5/9/2012
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It's a terrible song.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Originally posted by HumanitySector
And Rihanna sold over 210 million records and is 5th best selling female of all time, ahead of Beyonce, Katy and Gaga. So what's your point?
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Where did I insult Rihanna
And she hasn't sold 210 million "records" anywhere .. I'm not trying to discredit her or anything, but if these extra-inflated label receipts are believable to you, then so should be Bey's 100 million albums sold worldwide according to Pepsi, she wins!
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Jolie's Lips
Not really a Monster anymore but this song will be lucky to sell as much as Applause, or even DWUW, at this point
If the Navy is going to take credit for Rih's successful features, they must also take credit for her underperforming features. Acceptance is the key, to be truly free.
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Not when the only reason this song is doing anything in the US is because of Rih.
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
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Originally posted by Gangsta4alife
More like four years sis we gonna act like Sweet Dreams never went top 10 in 2009. And the Gaga collaboration didn't happen in 2010. But you tried swerving off topic with stale shade
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Anyways people over hyped it and the egg fell on their faces
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Member Since: 5/2/2012
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Originally posted by SebaMonster
It's obvious though. No one is going to say "appealing to the GP" instead of "good".
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He explained what he meant and it had nothing to do with what you're saying as you're still trying to jump in with an unsolicited, incorrect and unnecessary interpretation. Bye.
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