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Celeb News: Full details of R.Kelly's sex assault claims
Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Katie
I didn't give you those points but I fully support them as well as any other points earned in here.
If you'd like to experiment with speaking your mind, express those opinions to any officer, legal representative, assault survivor, or medical professional. There's a difference between speaking one's mind and being incorrect.
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None of us have the abso****e truth in here, you might say he's a pedophile but you have got no proofs, we're just giving our opinions, the only one who can say we're correct would be the people who witnessed R. Kelly's actions or Robert himself, you can't claim ''I'm being incorrect'' when you have the same amount of evidence that I do, which is none, and if you don't like what I've said, you should just ask to specify or explain more, cause let's not forget we're talking about legal issues that have been properly handled in court
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by MM3
Which is why I said "many" and not all. A lot of the people in this thread are genuinely disgusted but some are completely transparent.
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Well I'm not bashing Gaga, I'm really starting to feel sorry for her, it's not her fault tho, just bad choices of collabs and very bad timing, I think she should cut all the 'toxic' people from her life, I mean she's having a hard time herself and associating with the likes of R.Kelly and Terry is certainly not going to help. She should cut them off and start fresh, new image, new music, new everything, maybe even drop the Lady Gaga name and return as Stefani. I dunno.
Edit: And yes it is weird for me to feel this way, but I do have a heart and this is not her fault.
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by Katie
Zimmer had supporters on here? For real?
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In that thread about George's domestic abuse charges getting dropped, many people supported him (writing things like Legend Z, etc.) Someone even argued with me over his innocence in the Trayvon case. And this was JUST last week. Many people on this site support him. But anyway, let me not get started.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
Posts: 1,926
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How do you any of you have the audacity to defend him?
****, the fact that some of you think he's a great musician/artist that has nothing to do with this. The man is sick and deserves to be punished for his crimes, but of course the judicial system is ****ed so he'll more than likely get away with it again.
And I can't believe some of you are blaming the VICTIMS or are saying "they consented to it". They were or are children at the time, do you really think a teenager would thoroughly think of the emotional consequences when a big star with lots of money is giving you attention? That is just beyond vile and disgusting.
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Member Since: 8/12/2012
Posts: 13,665
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Originally posted by SillyBandz
This is so disgusting.
Why couldn't gaga do the song with Miguel like a normal person?
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Come on, this isn't about Gaga, my fave Adele was with R Kelly at Jools and later declared she is doing Ignition foe her Karaoke Show, my other fave Lorde was in a music studio in New York when R Kelly came by and she was impressed.
To make it clear the real monsters don't appear as monsters, they have the ability to trick you.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by LP54
Erase the fact that it's R Kelly.
The fact that you think it's okay for an adult to have sex with a teen because the teen agreed to it is just...
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We can't talk without any proof of anything, as I've said before, there have been hearings, settlements, many things we don't know of and never will for sure... Me and you, different opinions but one thing in common: no facts
Swag don't bring Gaga into this, it has nothing to do with the issue we're talking about
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by Lucas32
Is this real?
And there are people still working with him
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You didn't know R. Kelly was a known pedophile for years. He had a relationship with a 13 year old girl named aaliyah and years later married her. Plus not to even talk about the sex tape he had with that underage girl
Don't be surprised how hollywood is run look at how may people signed that pettion to have roman polanski a rapist/pedophile hae charges dropped against him (one of the supporters was whoopi goldberg). Jackie Wilson was supposedly scum too
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Member Since: 4/28/2011
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Originally posted by muddysquirrel
This vile man was sitting next to my fave @ the AMAs?
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He probably th...nvm
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Britboyuk
Get that promo DWUW
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lmao
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by PopBoi
He isn't in the public eye ...
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How isn't he in the public eye when "Wrecking Ball" says at the end it was directed by him?
So this is what everyone was talking about in another thread and I didn't have a clue. I am shocked, I love Kelly's music and after this, I don't know.
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Member Since: 11/1/2010
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Originally posted by musicislife298
How do you any of you have the audacity to defend him?
****, the fact that some of you think he's a great musician/artist that has nothing to do with this. The man is sick and deserves to be punished for his crimes, but of course the judicial system is ****ed so he'll more than likely get away with it again.
And I can't believe some of you are blaming the VICTIMS or are saying "they consented to it". They were or are children at the time, do you really think a teenager would thoroughly think of the emotional consequences when a big star with lots of money is giving you attention? That is just beyond vile and disgusting.
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This is all there is to say.
Welcome to sexual assault crimes where the victims are assumed to be at fault until proven otherwise - usually through a traumatizing and humiliating personal attack on their lives.
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by PopBoi
You said "we all have our problems" and I certainly having no problem comparable to that. You also said you couldn't care less about his personal life i.e. him pressuring underage girls into having sex. I care about scarring children for life, sorry.
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Yes "we all have our problems" yours may or may not be similar to R.Kelly's but you aren't perfect. I love his music and adore him as an artist and nothing is going to change that, you don't have to like someone as a person in order to support the work.
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by Swag
Well I'm not bashing Gaga, I'm really starting to feel sorry for her, it's not her fault tho, just bad choices of collabs and very bad timing, I think she should cut all the 'toxic' people from her life, I mean she's having a hard time herself and associating with the likes of R.Kelly and Terry is certainly not going to help. She should cut them off and start fresh, new image, new music, new everything, maybe even drop the Lady Gaga name and return as Stefani. I dunno.
Edit: And yes it is weird for me to feel this way, but I do have a heart and this is not her fault.
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I don't want to talk about Gaga because all of our faves have worked with people who are no angels/have done bad and controversial things in the past. I'd much rather keep the focus on what these girls went through because it's absolutely disgusting. I'm still reading the full article, but I'm cringing.
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he married Aaliyah when she was 15 (He was 27 )
Disgusting man.
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Member Since: 5/12/2012
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One second "Do What U Want" is a bop, suddenly it's ironic and disgusting
+ that AMA performance now
Honestly, she only did this R. Kelly collab cause he was about to release an album and she had no one else that wanted to feature on it His reputation, chart "success" etc = cheap feature
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Katie
This is all there is to say.
Welcome to sexual assault crimes where the victims are assumed to be at fault until proven otherwise - usually through a traumatizing and humiliating personal attack on their lives.
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+1
It's like that whole 'she brought on herself' mentality when a female gets raped, it's disgusting.
Edit: I'm agreeing with Katie on something and having some compassion for Gaga, hell will freeze.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 32,106
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Originally posted by Katie
This is all there is to say.
Welcome to sexual assault crimes where the victims are assumed to be at fault until proven otherwise - usually through a traumatizing and humiliating personal attack on their lives.
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Until proven otherwise, everyone we're mentioning here is innocent, don't forget that
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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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Originally posted by abrahamjmr
How isn't he in the public eye when "Wrecking Ball" says at the end it was directed by him?
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One's white and the others black.
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Member Since: 11/1/2010
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Originally posted by Swag
+1
It's like that whole 'she brought on herself' mentality when a female gets raped, it's disgusting.
Edit: I'm agreeing with Katie on something and having some compassion for Gaga, hell will freeze.
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Hey man, let's just go with it.
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