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Discussion: What does Beyonce have that Christina doesn't ??
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Tena
And IASF is a double disc so it sold 15 million
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But let a Beyonce fan say that seriously and they become a slave-wannabe Black Panther, oppressed n*gger living off federal assistance?!
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Originally posted by simon
There are several individuals that said she has an attitude. I know of a waitress that said when she was serving Christina, she was not allowed to talk to her, but only her assistant.
Even Bill Werde said that he has heard she has a bad attitude, although he never saw it.
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Didn't something like that happen with Beyonce too, where fans were not allowed to speak to her at some event? But I'm sure it wasn't Beyonce or Christina in this case. It was their management who put up this wall and then people take it personally and think its the artist.
Bill said he had heard rumors, but he said when he met her she was very nice to him.
It works the same way with rumors about Beyonce. I'm sure you know how there are people out there who claim untrue things about Beyonce and if enough people believe it if they will be convinced no matter what, like the claims of Beyonce faking her pregnancy among other things. Tons of people believe that, way more than any rumor about Christina's personality to be honest. Does that make it true?
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Originally posted by atrlster
Rihanna gets away with things on radio too because she is black also. Would Rhythmic radio make We Found Love a multi week #1 if say Lady Gaga or Britney Spears had done it? No lol. It would be lucky to go Top 10. And We Found Love even got airplay on urban stations
Well, Gaga's radio airplay streak is good so far overall.But she's beginning to decline a bit, and take a look at Britney's pop radio history before 2008. It's very inconsistent with a lot of really low peaks.
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I agree with you that both Rihanna and Beyonce have the upper hand because they'll always have some support from urban and even rhythmic. But it's also harder for them to gain that big support that other pop girls revive at pop stations. It's just reversed roles really.
Back to the topic I think Xtina should get back to being devoted, nice, she always comes off as rude and pretentious and that's just by small comments she makes. She could be really big today since she has the talent to back it up but I guess she's to lazy.
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Member Since: 8/22/2010
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Originally posted by Tena
And IASF is a double disc so it sold 15 million
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The difference is that Back To Basics was priced as a double album. The normal version of IASF was also a double album but it was priced as a single album.
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A father to buy her all her Grammys!
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Originally posted by Crush2.0
A father to buy her all her Grammys!
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Cute.
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Originally posted by QueenBeé
B2B didn't sell more than B'day. (B'day = 7M B2B = 5M) What kind of August 2006 receipts? Beyoncé has been outselling both Xtina and Britney since B'day. And your prediction that Xtina would be bigger than Bey if she kept releasing without breaks is false. Only P!nk from their generation is still able to outsell Beyoncé. Xtina wishes she would do Beyoncé's US first week numbers in total albums, worldwide.
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B2B is a double disc album so people paying 5M for it is says more than people paying 7M for a regular album. Your argument that Xtina will be overshadowed by Bey even if she released is baseless. My argument that she will has support, X has been more successful than Bey in 1999 - 2007. If she had released an album in '08 she wouldn't have fallen off the GP's radar and still could've been successful. Her tours were also getting bigger and she was alos getting more acclaim. I'm not even a Xtina stan, but I'm not here for delusion. Poeple need to stop acting like Xtina was always a flop.
Another point I'll like to mention is that Xtina has more competition than Bey. Bey's only competition is Alicia while Xtina's is Britney, Gaga, Katy, P!nk, Rihanna and other pop girls. If Bey had as tough competition as Xtina, maybe things would be different.
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Originally posted by pbax
Isn't the fact that she barely promoted her last album proof of this though? Or the fact that she takes 4 years between album eras while most take 2 at most? I used to be a semi Christina fan at one point and in every interview I've seen of her she comes across as unlikeable and bitchy, she really lacks warmth and comes across like she thinks she's superior to everyone. Its really not cute.
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And how is that proof? And I think the semi-fan thing explains why you're making these assumptions about her personality, because a fan would know about the things she's been going through and why she operates the way she does with her albums.
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Originally posted by BnPac
Oh really? So she did have pop radio support for her lead single, I don't get why she didn't sell more for then .
BTINH is more an Irr, a RnB song with potential cross over appeal than a Halo/IIWAB who are both straight pop.
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I didn't say she had good support on pop radio, just that it did better than BTINH
And I don't think people are really going to know the difference between a Halo/IIWAB type song and a BTINH/Irreplaceable type song. The only major thing that really makes Irreplaceable/BTINH R&B are the drums, and Halo and IIWAB have the same kind of style drums too really. Those two might have more subtle R&B nuances, but I doubt those made the difference in the song being a hit or not.
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Originally posted by Crush2.0
A father to buy her all her Grammys!
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You mean 'A Pitbull/Maroon 5 collab to help the general public remember that she has a singing career'
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Originally posted by Queen Of Hearts
Bey's public image is SO controlled nowadays and that in itself is impressive.
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No, not really. She rarely, if ever, responds to negative criticism (outside of her music); she lets rumors fester for ages before addressing them (if she EVER addresses them, either) -- people with hyper controlled images wouldn't allow that. Bey just keeps her business to herself, stays out of trouble and is super professional about her work.
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I don't want to be rude but... we all know Xtina is a bitch, while Beyonce is the coolest person in the industry.
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Originally posted by MLover
I agree with you that both Rihanna and Beyonce have the upper hand because they'll always have some support from urban and even rhythmic. But it's also harder for them to gain that big support that other pop girls revive at pop stations. It's just reversed roles really.
Back to the topic I think Xtina should get back to being devoted, nice, she always comes off as rude and pretentious and that's just by small comments she makes. She could be really big today since she has the talent to back it up but I guess she's to lazy.
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And what small comments are you referring to? She definitely is a nice person and devoted. Like I said in another response, don't let the rumors confuse you. I'm sure you get how it feels when rumors spread about Beyonce that you know are untrue or people take comments that Beyonce makes and run with them and take them out of context to make her look bad.
And it's not about laziness either.
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Good taste, smart handlers and an incomparable work ethic.
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Not the soundtrack to Hunger Games that's for sure.
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Originally posted by Brinny Baby
B2B is a double disc album so people paying 5M for it is says more than people paying 7M for a regular album. Your argument that Xtina will be overshadowed by Bey even if she released is baseless. My argument that she will has support, X has been more successful than Bey in 1999 - 2007. If she had released an album in '08 she wouldn't have fallen off the GP's radar and still could've been successful. Her tours were also getting bigger and she was alos getting more acclaim. I'm not even a Xtina stan, but I'm not here for delusion. Poeple need to stop acting like Xtina was always a flop.
Another point I'll like to mention is that Xtina has more competition than Bey. Bey's only competition is Alicia while Xtina's is Britney, Gaga, Katy, P!nk, Rihanna and other pop girls. If Bey had as tough competition as Xtina, maybe things would be different.
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Not here for would haves, should haves and could haves. She ISN'T what you are trying to portray her to be,which matters.
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Christina is kind of a bitch and her music (as of late) sucks.
Also:
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Originally posted by Nicole
Starpower.
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Originally posted by Brinny Baby
B2B is a double disc album so people paying 5M for it is says more than people paying 7M for a regular album. Your argument that Xtina will be overshadowed by Bey even if she released is baseless. My argument that she will has support, X has been more successful than Bey in 1999 - 2007. If she had released an album in '08 she wouldn't have fallen off the GP's radar and still could've been successful. Her tours were also getting bigger and she was alos getting more acclaim. I'm not even a Xtina stan, but I'm not here for delusion. Poeple need to stop acting like Xtina was always a flop.
Another point I'll like to mention is that Xtina has more competition than Bey. Bey's only competition is Alicia while Xtina's is Britney, Gaga, Katy, P!nk, Rihanna and other pop girls. If Bey had as tough competition as Xtina, maybe things would be different.
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Yes, that's a big thing too. Not to dismiss Beyonce, but that is especially true for her Grammys. If Beyonce was white she would get nominated in pop categories only and have way less Grammys. She would face more competition in the pop category and wouldn't be able to get all those super uncompetive urban Grammys
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A good technique for preserving her voice
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Originally posted by atrlster
And how is that proof? And I think the semi-fan thing explains why you're making these assumptions about her personality, because a fan would know about the things she's been going through and why she operates the way she does with her albums.
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The fact that everyone apart from her stans are posting the same thing (Her pretentious attitude) is pretty much proof, sorry. Also, I dread to think how Bionic took 4 years to create, I've enjoyed dumps more than that "album" .
The completely flawless "4" is lightyears ahead in quality and probably took Bey half the time to create, thats hard work!
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