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Poll: Bigger R&B Force:Ciara vs Kelly Rowland
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Ciara
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79 |
55.63% |
Kelly Rowland
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63 |
44.37% |
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and lets not even talk about single sales...BP about to go gold and is still in top 200 itunes
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If we're talking currently, as in within the past few years then it's def. Kelly. "Motivation" is more successful than anything Ciara has released since "Promise" as far as R&B goes. Ciara def. had the bigger hit in the past year with "Body Party," but in retrospect it's not even Gold certified yet and it's been out since February/March? :|
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Originally posted by TurntUp
and lets not even talk about single sales...BP about to go gold and is still in top 200 itunes
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They are trolling for the GODS! I mean, Body Party has outsold all of the singles from Talk a Good Game put together. So for them to say Kelly Rowland is an R&B force
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and Kelly's TAGG album sold at a better rate than Ciara's self-titled LP and Kelly basically no promo.
I'd say they're about on the same level, tbh.
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I bet I'm Out's debuted of 53k outsold KDL/Smelly Laundry total
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
If we're talking currently, as in within the past few years then it's def. Kelly. "Motivation" is more successful than anything Ciara has released since "Promise" as far as R&B goes. Ciara def. had the bigger hit in the past year with "Body Party," but in retrospect it's not even Gold certified yet and it's been out since February/March? :|
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We're talking about OVERALL as an artist. We're not talking about the year Kelly Rowland specifically released Motivation. I mean I know that's the only thing Kelly Rowland stans can lean faith on, but that songs wasn't even that major of a hit compared to other R&B singles released that year, because in that case that would make Kelly Rowland a bigger R&B force than Beyonce.
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Originally posted by ciara
They are trolling for the GODS! I mean, Body Party has outsold all of the singles from Talk a Good Game put together. So for them to say Kelly Rowland is an R&B force
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and "Motivation" has outsold all of Ciara's singles from her past two albums combined. so.. IDG how y'all are acting like they're not on pretty level playing fields.
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
and Kelly's TAGG album sold at a better rate than Ciara's self-titled LP and Kelly basically no promo.
I'd say they're about on the same level, tbh.
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i hate when yall say kelly had no promo, she did interviews, morning tv performance and went on a 7 date venue tour to promote the album
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
and "Motivation" has outsold all of Ciara's singles from her past two albums combined. so.. IDG how y'all are acting like they're not on pretty level playing fields.
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and we know it only sold so much because of a popular rapper named lil wayne....end of story
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Originally posted by ciara
We're talking about OVERALL as an artist. We're not talking about the year Kelly Rowland specifically released Motivation. I mean I know that's the only thing Kelly Rowland stans can lean faith on, but that songs wasn't even that major of a hit compared to other R&B singles released that year, because in that case that would make Kelly Rowland a bigger R&B force than Beyonce.
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It was never stated in the OP that it was overall, hence me saying if we're discussing recently. I figured due to the OP saying "now in 2013" they were talking about present day, not overall. And how was "Motivation" NOT "that major"? It's Grammy nominated, 2x platinum and was w/o a doubt one of the top 3 R&B songs of that year.
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
and "Motivation" has outsold all of Ciara's singles from her past two albums combined. so.. IDG how y'all are acting like they're not on pretty level playing fields.
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Here we go again, bringing up Motivation. That song was released in 2011. Ciara has songs that have outsold motivation.......
We're talking about TODAY, where does the artist stand OVERALL.
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Originally posted by TurntUp
i hate when yall say kelly had no promo, she did interviews, morning tv performance and went on a 7 date venue tour to promote the album
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I said basically no promo, so please. she did a few radio interviews and TWO televised performances during the week of release. and how are club performances promo? were they televised to the masses? x_x
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
It was never stated in the OP that it was overall, hence me saying if we're discussing recently. I figured due to the OP saying "now in 2013" they were talking about present day, not overall. And how was "Motivation" NOT "that major"? It's Grammy nominated, 2x platinum and was w/o a doubt one of the top 3 R&B songs of that year.
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Ciara has had far more successful songs than Motivation, so you're not proving anything, if we're talking about PAST singles.
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I mean, are we talking currently or their entire solo careers or their entire careers in general?
If we're talking currently, Kelly, but, they're about even.
If we're talking overall solo careers, Ciara for Goodies-Evolution.
If we're talking entire careers overall, Kelly.
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Originally posted by ciara
Here we go again, bringing up Motivation. That song was released in 2011. Ciara has songs that have outsold motivation.......
We're talking about TODAY, where does the artist stand OVERALL.
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and what the hell is wrong w/ bringing up "Motivation"? I don't remember anyone restricting bringing up older records. I'm simply comparing both of their most recent big hits.
Overall Ciara has had a more successful career than Kelly (as a solo artist), but in MY personal opinion they're on level playing fields as far as where they stand in the current world of music.
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Originally posted by Ascension
I mean, are we talking currently or their entire solo careers or their entire careers in general?
If we're talking currently, Kelly, but, they're about even.
If we're talking overall solo careers, Ciara for Goodies-Evolution.
If we're talking entire careers overall, Kelly.
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Not according to the receipts
TOP 40 Singles
CIARA
Goodies - #1
1,2 Step - #2
Oh - #2
Lose Control- #3 (Feature)
Like You - #3 (Feature)
Get Up- #7
So What- #10
Love Sex Magic- #10
Promise - #11
Just Stand Up- #11 (Feature)
Like a Boy- #19
Body Party- #22
Can't Leave Em Alone- #40
KELLY ROWLAND:
Dilemma- #1 (Feature)
Motivation- #17
Here We Go - #17 (Feature)
Stole- #27
Like This- #30
US Album Sales
CIARA
Goodies 2.75 Million (3x Plaitinum)
Ciara: The Evolution 1.4 Million copies (Platinum)
Fantasy Ride 200,000+ (no certification)
Basic Instinct 120,000 + (no certification)
Ciara 105,000+
Total = 4.1 Million (US album sales)
KELLY ROWLAND:
Simply Deep 602,000+ (Gold)
Ms. Kelly 273,000+ (no certification)
Here I Am 178,000+ (no certification)
Talk a Good Game 150,000+
Total = 1.2 Million (US Album Sales; meaning both Goodies and The Evolution have separately outsold Kelly Rowland's entire album discography in the US)
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
and what the hell is wrong w/ bringing up "Motivation"? I don't remember anyone restricting bringing up older records. I'm simply comparing both of their most recent big hits.
Overall Ciara has had a more successful career than Kelly (as a solo artist), but in MY personal opinion they're on level playing fields as far as where they stand in the current world of music.
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You're comparing their most recent biggest hit and you're pulling receipts from 2011, shouldn't that be telling you something?
Like I said, In that case that would make Kelly Rowland bigger than Beyonce. Which is not the case.
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Originally posted by ciara
Ciara has had far more successful songs than Motivation, so you're not proving anything, if we're talking about PAST singles.
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girl, my point in bringing up "Motivation" was simply in reference to you saying "BP" has outsold all of the songs from the TAGG era. Turntup said "let's not even bring up singles sales" as if Ciara is Katy P. or something.
and fun fact, "Motivation" is 2x platinum.... none of Ciara's singles, including features, have been able to do that. not one.
but like I stated before, Ciara overall is more successful than Kelly (as a solo artist) overall. I just think they're on a level playing field at the moment.
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Originally posted by ciara
Not according to the receipts
TOP 40 Singles
CIARA
Goodies - #1
1,2 Step - #2
Oh - #2
Lose Control- #3 (Feature)
Like You - #3 (Feature)
Get Up- #7
So What- #10
Love Sex Magic- #10
Promise - #11
Just Stand Up- #11 (Feature)
Like a Boy- #19
Body Party- #22
Can't Leave Em Alone- #40
KELLY ROWLAND:
Dilemma- #1 (Feature)
Motivation- #17
Here We Go - #17 (Feature)
Stole- #27
Like This- #30
US Album Sales
CIARA
Goodies 2.75 Million (3x Plaitinum)
Ciara: The Evolution 1.4 Million copies (Platinum)
Fantasy Ride 200,000+ (no certification)
Basic Instinct 120,000 + (no certification)
Ciara 105,000+
Total = 4.1 Million (US album sales)
KELLY ROWLAND:
Simply Deep 602,000+ (Gold)
Ms. Kelly 273,000+ (no certification)
Here I Am 178,000+ (no certification)
Talk a Good Game 150,000+
Total = 1.2 Million (US Album Sales; meaning both Goodies and The Evolution have separately outsold Kelly Rowland's entire album discography in the US)
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And did anything in my post refute the fact that Ciara has had a more successful solo career? Kelly has had a bigger overall career and currently, I think she is a bigger force than Ciara, but, not by much.
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Originally posted by RudeBoy™
girl, my point in bringing up "Motivation" was simply in reference to you saying "BP" has outsold all of the songs from the TAGG era. Turntup said "let's not even bring up singles sales" as if Ciara is Katy P. or something.
and fun fact, "Motivation" is 2x platinum.... none of Ciara's singles, including features, have been able to do that. not one.
but like I stated before, Ciara overall is more successful than Kelly (as a solo artist) overall. I just think they're on a level playing field at the moment.
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I mean despite a flop album Ciara is still on Itune Top 200 with Body Party, where are Kelly Rowlands singles if she's on the same playing field as Kelly?
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