[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by brIt-()nstar

Yes. It's a personal choice for most couples. Don't you agree?

...No, being infertile is not a personal choice.

[Quietly Trek]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

"I was born with a different bit of equipment" is NOT on the same level of as "I have been ****ing you while carrying an infectious disease that is transmitted through ****ing." The fact that you can't comprehend this shows a severe lack of sexual maturity. By the logic you're using "I got arrested for possession once" and "I killed a guy once" are equally bad secrets.

You were born a different gender! Your "equipment" isn't the only thing that changes. Go open a biology book.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by Quietly Trek

Because in both cases you are concealing a major secret. Did I not already say that? FFS.

Given the relationship was going along swimmingly before you found out, tell me why the that revelation that your partner is trans would change the relationship at all?

[brIt-()nstar]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

...What?

You're joking, right?

You need to rephrase because I legitimately don't understand what you're trying to say. There are plenty of trans parents in the world.

Mess at you not trying to comprehend what is a standard in this world.

[Quietly Trek]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

I am processing your comments correctly, and they are dumb. You are comparing transexuality to STIs.

Hint: The difference is that one of them is infectious and can physically harm the other person.

It's an analogy about concealing the truth. You're not professing anything correctly. Hint: The other can psychologically/emotionally harm the person. In both cases someone is bound to get hurt.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by Quietly Trek

You were born a different gender! Your "equipment" isn't the only thing that changes. Go open a biology book.

*born a different SEX. Sex is your parts, gender is your identity.

But if the person had been dating them as the post-op gender for a long period of time, and LIKED them as that gender, the way there were, etc. why would the gender they were before matter? They obviously liked everything that "changed"n about that person by becoming trans. You are boosting my argument, not your own.

[Quietly Trek]

Originally posted by Artemisia

Given the relationship was going along swimmingly before you found out, tell me why the the revelation that your partner is trans would change the relationship at all?

Because you found out something major that you didn't know before. It's about trust.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by brIt-()nstar

Mess at you not trying to comprehend what is a standard in this world.

You think infertility is a personal choice so I'm really not interested in discussing this with you anymore.

[brIt-()nstar]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

...No, being infertile is not a personal choice.

I change my answer to "It depends". And what I mean about a personal choice is the couple's preference if they want to have a child of their own. You can't change that just because there is an option for adoption.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by Quietly Trek

Because you found out something major that you didn't know before. It's about trust.

Wow, its almost like you're in a relationship and building up trust in each other to reveal intimate/private things or something.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by Quietly Trek

It's an analogy about concealing the truth. You're not professing anything correctly. Hint: The other can psychologically/emotionally harm the person. In both cases someone is bound to get hurt.

mmmnlklj;;;

THE HURT IS NOT THE SAME

It's like saying that someone making fun of you once is just as bad as someone murdering your whole family in front of you. One might be an ugly memory, the other is a traumatizing, life-altering event that can scar you forever and change everything about you. NOT THE ****ING SAME, AND NOT A VALID ****ING COMPARISON.

the end

[brIt-()nstar]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

You think infertility is a personal choice so I'm really not interested in discussing this with you anymore.

Ofcourse, you won't discuss it with me cause you're losing on this debate.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by brIt-()nstar

I change my answer to "It depends". And what I mean about a personal choice is the couple's preference if they want to have a child of their own. You can't change that just because there is an option for adoption.

So what? Not everyone gets their "preferences" about that, and it has nothing to do with trans people. Most people don't find out they're infertile until they start trying to have a kid.

[Quietly Trek]

Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla

*born a different SEX. Sex is your parts, gender is your identity.

But if the person had been dating them as the post-op gender for a long period of time, and LIKED them as that gender, the way there were, etc. why would the gender they were before matter? They obviously liked everything that "changed"n about that person by becoming trans. You are boosting my argument, not your own.

People have trust issues! You're breaking someone's trust by not sharing. If the person is okay with it, then great! If the person is not, that's also an appropriate response.

[pika]

The anger from some people in this thread.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by Quietly Trek

It's an analogy about concealing the truth. You're not professing anything correctly. Hint: The other can psychologically/emotionally harm the person. In both cases someone is bound to get hurt.

Why would finding out that I am dating a trans person emotionally/psychologically harm me if I wasn't transphobic?

You are choosing to be concerned over the person who wants to end a relationship with a person they were completely fine with only because they found out they were trans (which changes nothing, by the way!), and not the person who was just rejected for being trans, thinking their partner was fine with it. Talk about misplaced sympathy.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by brIt-()nstar

Ofcourse, you won't discuss it with me cause you're losing on this debate.

In what way? You don't even have a point, and if you do you've expressed it terribly. You're assuming everyone wants to have biological kids when less and less people are having kids in developed countries, and they're having MUCH less of them then people did 60-70 years ago.

You're assuming everyone who wants to have biological kids can and that someone being trans would be the ONLY obstacle to that happening when millions of heterosexual non-trans people find out they biologically cannot have kids every year.

[YoYo]

Drop them like radioactive waste.

[Jameson Teqkilla]

Originally posted by Quietly Trek

People have trust issues! You're breaking someone's trust by not sharing. If the person is okay with it, then great! If the person is not, that's also an appropriate response.

The entire point of a relationship is that you build up trust over time.

You're not going to jump to "Here's everything about my life story especially the parts I've faced rejection for in the past" on day 1, give me a break.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by brIt-()nstar

I change my answer to "It depends". And what I mean about a personal choice is the couple's preference if they want to have a child of their own. You can't change that just because there is an option for adoption.

That's OK! But you can't act as if the trans person did you wrong because they didn't tell you up front that they can't have children naturally. A damn mess.