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Poll: Better Role Model for Gay Teens: Adam Lambert or Frank Ocean
View Poll Results: Better Role Model for Gay Teens? Adam Lambert or Frank Ocean
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Frank Ocean
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73.68% |
Adam Lambert
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26.32% |
Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by EnoughSaid
Frank.
I am not homophobic in any way shape or form but I can't and never could have stood overly flamboyant males, it's very annoying to me I just can't stand it. The only time it works for me is when it's camp and funny name examples are escaping me but there's many I like, who have huge hilarious personalities. But other than that I don't like those really bitchy or really over the top gays, they really make a bad name for the rest. I think most people who don't like the idea of gay associate it with being crude and so out there when there's so many gays who you'd probably never be able to tell because they are the exact same as most straight males/females, so I don't like the stereotype Adam perpetuate but hey, it is who HE is so I can't hate on that, I just don't care for it.
Also Frank makes it easier for gays I think, to come out because he well respected and everyone thought he was straight before he announced otherwise so it shows not all gays are like i said above
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If you were not homophobic why would that be in your first sentence, usually people who say that before making their point are indeed what they say they are. As far as the rest of the post I rolled my eyes throughout it. Like their aren't any bitchy masculine men throughout the entire spectrum of sexuality, who give bad names to males in general. Please get outdoors more, both of them are good role models for any gay person to look up to. There's nothing wrong with being feminine and it's so sad that you made that comment.
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Member Since: 5/15/2012
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Originally posted by montrealxo
That just shows how much you know about what you're fonting about. Frank's recording career is going on its 3rd year. His debut mixtape that was released in 2011 is more acclaimed than anything Adam will EVER do.
And kiiii at Adam having a 4 year career when it ended the second week Trespassing was out.
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Kiiii
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
Posts: 10,415
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If Adam is such a nonfactor when compared to a superstar like Frank Ocean then why do you guys get so worked up over the comparisons? It shouldn't go on this long every single time
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
Posts: 10,415
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Originally posted by Gangsta4alife
If you were not homophobic why would that be in your first sentence, usually people who say that before making their point are indeed what they say they are. As far as the rest of the post I rolled my eyes throughout it. Like their aren't any bitchy masculine men throughout the entire spectrum of sexuality, who give bad names to males in general. Please get outdoors more, both of them are good role models for any gay person to look up to. There's nothing wrong with being feminine and it's so sad that you made that comment.
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That type of people can't be gay themselves or are probably in the closet I refuse to believe that people who are out and know what it's like to be judged for who they are would talk like that about campy gays.
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Originally posted by Glam
That type of people can't be gay themselves or are probably in the closet I refuse to believe that people who are out and know what it's like to be judged for who they are would talk like that about campy gays.
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Yeah I'm totally not into people bashing Adam for being flamboyant I never understand when gay or bi guys try to keep people stuck in gender stereotypes. Oddly enough I see this a LOT on ATRL, which is probably one of the campiest sites ever, so it makes no sense and screams denial/self-hatred
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Member Since: 2/4/2012
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Originally posted by Glam
If Adam is such a nonfactor when compared to a superstar like Frank Ocean then why do you guys get so worked up over the comparisons? It shouldn't go on this long every single time
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We just answered the question in the OP, got attacked and called "insecure," homophobic," and "self hating." We understand you're angry your fave isn't around to let you all play in the mac counter in his bathroom, but you don't have to deflect; it's unbecoming.
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
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Originally posted by montrealxo
We just answered the question in the OP, got attacked and called "insecure," homophobic," and "self hating." We understand you're angry your fave isn't around to let you all play in the mac counter in his bathroom, but you don't have to deflect; it's unbecoming.
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I didn't call anyone homophobic. But is that why you started posting google trends receipts of Frank?
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
Posts: 9,429
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Originally posted by Glam
That type of people can't be gay themselves or are probably in the closet I refuse to believe that people who are out and know what it's like to be judged for who they are would talk like that about campy gays.
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IKR, i'm not feminine myself or like to dress certain ways. However i'm not going to knock down members of my own community, when we all face the same discrimination. It's sad they are so brain washed they don't even realize we are inner fighting due bigoted beliefs.
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Originally posted by montrealxo
We just answered the question in the OP, got attacked and called "insecure," homophobic," and "self hating." We understand you're angry your fave isn't around to let you all play in the mac counter in his bathroom, but you don't have to deflect; it's unbecoming.
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I wouldn't be getting cocky over there one successful era does not translate into the next.
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Originally posted by montrealxo
We just answered the question in the OP, got attacked and called "insecure," homophobic," and "self hating."
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This.
I really don't understand where the SERIOUS debate came from.
Adam's style is not for everyone, just like Frank's style is not for everyone, it's that simple.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by Stepfon
This.
I really don't understand where the SERIOUS debate came from.
Adam's style is not for everyone, just like Frank's style is not for everyone, it's that simple.
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Stop playing dumb you know exactly what you were doing when you made this comment:
"Frank, of course.
Some people let their sexuality be known as soon as they walk through the door, that's tacky and that's Adam for you."
As if there is something wrong with being feminine and proud of who you are, no one is saying you have to love adam. However spreading untruth that Adam screams he's gay every single time he speaks, is gonna get a certain reaction. It's that simple.
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Originally posted by Rivington Reject
I'm APPALLED that some of y'all think being feminine or flamboyant is a bad thing.
What difference does it make? Be who YOU are, masculine or feminine.
I think both are good role models to whoever looks up to them.
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In my opinion, flamboyant males are annoying. But that's MY opinion and I'm not wrong for having it.
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Member Since: 6/8/2008
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Originally posted by Gangsta4alife
Stop playing dumb you know exactly what you were doing when you made this comment:
"Frank, of course.
Some people let their sexuality be known as soon as they walk through the door, that's tacky and that's Adam for you."
As if there is something wrong with being feminine and proud of who you are, no one is saying you have to love adam. However spreading untruth that Adam screams he's gay every single time he speaks, is gonna get a certain reaction. It's that simple.
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Why are you fuming so hard? You can be proud of who you are AND not have to throw your sexuality in people's faces ALL the time because at the end of the day: Who cares who you sleep with?
Adam does talk about his sexuality and gays quite often and his fans do too:
"Girl, did you know what Adam was the first openly gay singer to go #1 on the Billboard 200?"
"Honey child, did you know that Frank Ocean will NEVER compare to Adam Lambert when it comes to gay singers?"
Sidenote: I love how the same people who talk about Adam not mentioning his sexuality like to bring up his "gay" accomplishments in every thread, the logic...
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Member Since: 2/4/2012
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[QUOTE=Gangsta4alife;14680402
I wouldn't be getting cocky over there one successful era does not translate into the next.[/QUOTE]
Not at all. They tried it in this thread and another one that other Adam Lambert stan deleted and I defended my fave. It is what it is, and didn't concern you anyway.
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Member Since: 1/7/2011
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I'm not here for either. Want a good gay role-model, look at Ellen.
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Member Since: 2/4/2012
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Originally posted by Glam
I didn't call anyone homophobic. But is that why you started posting google trends receipts of Frank?
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Not you in particular but others in this thread.
That was simply to prove a point because you claimed Frank had an advantage only on this site and would win a poll just because ATRLers preferred him. I just had to show you that it's not just ATRL, but the general public as a whole.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Why are you fuming so hard? You can be proud of who you are AND not have to throw your sexuality in people's faces ALL the time because at the end of the day: Who cares who you sleep with?
Adam does talk about his sexuality and gays quite often and his fans do too:
"Girl, did you know what Adam was the first openly gay singer to go #1 on the Billboard 200?"
"Honey child, did you know that Frank Ocean will NEVER compare to Adam Lambert when it comes to gay singers?"
Sidenote: I love how the same people who talk about Adam not mentioning his sexuality like to bring up his "gay" accomplishments in every thread, the logic...
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Funny how when people disagree with you, your first response is someone's mad or fuming. I'm far from mad, I never cursed you out or attempted to drag you for filth. Just responded to one of your comments that you personally asked as why this thread took a turn for a debate. Plenty of people care who you sleep with seeing as frank ocean's boost in popularity was indeed who he had feelings for, oh the logic. How is being open and expressing yourself throwing it in people's faces, if anything shouldn't that be said for a lot of straight male entertainers. A lot of the same men who constantly talk about who they are piping down, how their beasts in bed, sexual performances and the like. There is no issue with that so let Adam do the same if he chooses so. Enforcing double standards hold you back ya know. Furthermore what is wrong with being open and proud of your sexuality, it's a part of who you are and has helped made him who he is today. Adam is breaking down barriers, and i'm not a great fan of him but I appreciate him for that.
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Originally posted by montrealxo
Not at all. They tried it in this thread and another one that other Adam Lambert stan deleted and I defended my fave. It is what it is, and didn't concern you anyway.
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Umm excuse me this is a message board and I can comment on whatever topic or comment i like. You put it out there henceforth I gave a response, don't like it to bad. Like I said again it doesn't matter if the adam lambert fan tried it. Your fave can be yesterday's news tmrrow he is far from established like that.
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Member Since: 10/30/2011
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Why are you fuming so hard?
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Originally posted by Stepfon
your fumes are showing again.
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Originally posted by Stepfon
it was just the typical fuming you usually do.
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Who is actually fuming here
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Member Since: 9/7/2012
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I think we all need to group hug and listen to Born This Way
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Member Since: 2/4/2012
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Originally posted by Stepfon
Why are you fuming so hard? You can be proud of who you are AND not have to throw your sexuality in people's faces ALL the time because at the end of the day: Who cares who you sleep with?
Adam does talk about his sexuality and gays quite often and his fans do too:
"Girl, did you know what Adam was the first openly gay singer to go #1 on the Billboard 200?"
"Honey child, did you know that Frank Ocean will NEVER compare to Adam Lambert when it comes to gay singers?"
Sidenote: I love how the same people who talk about Adam not mentioning his sexuality like to bring up his "gay" accomplishments in every thread, the logic...
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They'll stay mad. Trespassing had a two month head start and will NEVER catch up so they stick to the only thing they have to use.
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Instead of looking for strangers to look up to these gay teens should start being their own role models
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