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Poll: Beyonce or J.Lo :More relevant? (past 2 years)
View Poll Results: Beyonce or J.Lo :More relevant in past 2 years?
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J.Lo
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41.94% |
Beyonce
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58.71% |
Member Since: 4/5/2012
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I don't understand some people's logic.
How does an artist who's been in the game for 10+ years, sold more than 50 million records [at the time], release a single that reached #1 in more than 20 countries, and became the BEST SELLING FEMALE SINGLE OF 2011, not be considered relevant whatsoever?
What kind of fukery?
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by JLO_FeEN
I don't understand some people's logic.
How does an artist who's been in the game for 10+ years, sold more than 50 million records [at the time], release a single that reached #1 in more than 20 countries, and became the BEST SELLING FEMALE SINGLE OF 2011, not be considered relevant whatsoever?
What kind of fukery?
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Anyone calling J.Lo irrelevant is kidding themselves.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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There's something I just can't even HANDLE.
2007 - SO FAR
"Como Ama una Mujer" : 800.000
"Brave" : 700.000
"Love?" : 1.100.000
TOTAL : 2.600.000
JUNE 2011 - SO FAR
4 (aka. Bey's slowest-selling album since DC back in 1998) : 2.800.000
AND YET, J-LO's STANS are still on the "ON THE FLOOR" reads?
SINGLES????
VEVO VIEWS????????
SERIOUSLY J-LO STANS???????
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Member Since: 2/7/2012
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Originally posted by Muggwa
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haha and now put beyonce knowles/jennifer lopez and see what will show up..Stop with that s*ith already..
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Member Since: 2/7/2012
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Originally posted by PULSE.
Dead at JLO's last 3 albums Brave, Love? & Dance Again, COMBINE still can't top 4 sells.
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ok but you can put it this way...Jennifer sold more then 15 million records ww past 2 years and Beyonce what? 5 million(album + 6,7 singles from the same album combined )
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by J to tha L-O
haha and now put beyonce knowles/jennifer lopez and see what will show up..Stop with that s*ith already..
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I thought we went over this.
Beyonce Knowles is not her stage name, it's her real name. She only uses her last name for films, and she hasn't had one out since 2009.
If you combine "Beyonce" + "Beyonce Knowles" (adding the plus sign combines the two queries, putting the two word one in quotations makes it use that exact term) vs. "J.Lo" and "Jennifer Lopez", Beyonce still comes out on top with about double the amount.
Click here to see the results.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by J to tha L-O
ok but you can put it this way...Jennifer sold more then 15 million records ww past 2 years and Beyonce what? 5 million(album + 6,7 singles from the same album combined )
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Going by records sold is a bit iffy no? Do you really think 1 album sale = 1 single sale?
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Member Since: 12/3/2010
Posts: 1,550
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Jlo is more relevant
Bey performed at the Billboard Awards, with a special fake ass Millenium award being made up for her to attend
Premiered her video AFTER JLO DID, performed on the final
Headline the highly publicized Glastonbury
Performed at Oprah last show
4 Documentary on MTV
Countless magazine covers
Countless SINGLES RELEASED
4 DVD and anthology
And pimping out her pregnancy at the VMAS
And still only sold 2.4 million copies of a heavily promoted HYPED album
While Jen sold 1.1 million copies of Love? An album full of songs that leaked a YEAR before, with only 4 adittional songs inlcluding OTF
No special documentaries for MTV, ONLY 1 LIVE TV performance on AI and one 6 MONTHS LATER
On the Floor alone sold more than all of Beys 4 singles combined
And the Love?era At 12 million combined
OTF the 3rd most watched video EVER AND most watched on youtube
On top of that she has come off a successful world tour, the 3rd highest grossing female after Gaga and Madonna with 75 million
Successful films Ice Age and What to Expect When You’re expecting combined gross of 900 million
The Back Up Plan 77 miilion at the Box office and successful in after sales in DVD and rentals
The Back-up Plan was released on August 24, 2010 on DVD and Blu-ray and sold 277,183 ( $4.7 million) copies in its first week of release debuting at #2 on the charts behind the sixth season of Lost.[citation needed] The Back-up Plan also ranked #1 at both the Top 10 Renting DVD Titles and Top 10 Selling DVD Titles at U.S. BLOCKBUSTER stores, as well as #1 at the Top 10 Online Renting DVD Titles at Blockbuster.com. #3 at Top 10 Renting Blu-ray Titles at U.S. BLOCKBUSTER stores, #1 at Top 10 Selling Digital Titles on BLOCKBUSTER On Demand.[26] The Back-up Plan also reached #1 on Top Movie Sales on iTunes
The Top selling Fragrance seller, her combined sales at 2.5 million
Awards won/Achievements/nominations- ALMA awards, Daytime Emmy, VMAS, World Most Powerful Celebrity 2012, Most Beautiful Woman 2011, Glamour Woman of the Year 2011, American Music award etc
Endorsement deals with Tous, Gilette, Loreal, ill fated Fiat ENDORSEMENT, Successful line Kohl, successful launch of Glowing, Teelogy, new owner of Latin network and Executive producer of high rated Q’viva and South Beach Tow and the Fosters which will premiere this fall
Two Incredibly successful seasons on AI kicking of ALIST/celebrity judges
And not getting critical acclaim for her role in Parker’The Chicago Tribune said that the role gave Lopez "an opportunity to be dramatic, romantic, funny, depressed, euphoric and violent. The audience stays with her all the way".
Beys relevance in the past 2 years has been down to the controversial, Baby gate, the underperformance of the hugely hyped 4 the narcasstic GQ articale, her weird attention seeking istragram/ tumblr posts and the lipsyncing fiasco
Shes got the Superbowl coming and she will kill it , but for the past 2 years jlo has been more relevant and more successful
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Member Since: 8/8/2009
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Hasn't Beyoncé's media coverage over the past two years trumped anything J. Lo. has ever done?
Scratch that. Hasn't Beyoncé's media coverage over the past week trumped anything J. Lo. has ever done?
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Member Since: 2/7/2012
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Originally posted by Lucia
Jlo is more relevant
Bey performed at the Billboard Awards, with a special fake ass Millenium award being made up for her to attend
Premiered her video AFTER JLO DID, performed on the final
Headline the highly publicized Glastonbury
Performed at Oprah last show
4 Documentary on MTV
Countless magazine covers
Countless SINGLES RELEASED
4 DVD and anthology
And pimping out her pregnancy at the VMAS
And still only sold 2.4 million copies of a heavily promoted HYPED album
While Jen sold 1.1 million copies of Love? An album full of songs that leaked a YEAR before, with only 4 adittional songs inlcluding OTF
No special documentaries for MTV, ONLY 1 LIVE TV performance on AI and one 6 MONTHS LATER
On the Floor alone sold more than all of Beys 4 singles combined
And the Love?era At 12 million combined
OTF the 3rd most watched video EVER AND most watched on youtube
On top of that she has come off a successful world tour, the 3rd highest grossing female after Gaga and Madonna with 75 million
Successful films Ice Age and What to Expect When You’re expecting combined gross of 900 million
The Back Up Plan 77 miilion at the Box office and successful in after sales in DVD and rentals
The Back-up Plan was released on August 24, 2010 on DVD and Blu-ray and sold 277,183 ( $4.7 million) copies in its first week of release debuting at #2 on the charts behind the sixth season of Lost.[citation needed] The Back-up Plan also ranked #1 at both the Top 10 Renting DVD Titles and Top 10 Selling DVD Titles at U.S. BLOCKBUSTER stores, as well as #1 at the Top 10 Online Renting DVD Titles at Blockbuster.com. #3 at Top 10 Renting Blu-ray Titles at U.S. BLOCKBUSTER stores, #1 at Top 10 Selling Digital Titles on BLOCKBUSTER On Demand.[26] The Back-up Plan also reached #1 on Top Movie Sales on iTunes
The Top selling Fragrance seller, her combined sales at 2.5 million
Awards won/Achievements/nominations- ALMA awards, Daytime Emmy, VMAS, World Most Powerful Celebrity 2012, Most Beautiful Woman 2011, Glamour Woman of the Year 2011, American Music award etc
Endorsement deals with Tous, Gilette, Loreal, ill fated Fiat ENDORSEMENT, Successful line Kohl, successful launch of Glowing, Teelogy, new owner of Latin network and Executive producer of high rated Q’viva and South Beach Tow and the Fosters which will premiere this fall
Two Incredibly successful seasons on AI kicking of ALIST/celebrity judges
And not getting critical acclaim for her role in Parker’The Chicago Tribune said that the role gave Lopez "an opportunity to be dramatic, romantic, funny, depressed, euphoric and violent. The audience stays with her all the way".
Beys relevance in the past 2 years has been down to the controversial, Baby gate, the underperformance of the hugely hyped 4 the narcasstic GQ articale, her weird attention seeking istragram/ tumblr posts and the lipsyncing fiasco
Shes got the Superbowl coming and she will kill it , but for the past 2 years jlo has been more relevant and more successful
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haha love you..
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Member Since: 2/7/2012
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Originally posted by Hurricanrana.
Hasn't Beyoncé's media coverage over the past two years trumped anything J. Lo. has ever done?
Scratch that. Hasn't Beyoncé's media coverage over the past week trumped anything J. Lo. has ever done?
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lol so you are bragging about that media coverage her fake pregnancy and recent lip-synth skandal
Is that all she has done past two years?
People and i mean GP laughed at her these past years while Jennifer received all media coverage about her comeback and success!
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Member Since: 6/13/2012
Posts: 1,487
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is this a real question? Jlo was never even close to having the cultural impact that beyonce has. She sang for the President of the united states! Beyonce was a major force who even anderson cooper himself stans for. Overall, Beyonce has had words added to the dictionary and inspired countless youtube videos. Who hasn't seen all the single ladies and countdown imitations? J.LO is just kind of there. I think she peaked in the early 2000's
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Lucia
While Jen sold 1.1 million copies of Love? An album full of songs that leaked a YEAR before, with only 4 adittional songs inlcluding OTF
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So you think that Love?'s poor sales was because it leaked early?
In Beyonce's case I think that the leak affected the sales, given that it was around the time that she was promoting the album and there was the most interest in hearing the new music. Hence, blogs and people would be more likely to share it. In Jennifer's case her stuff leaked but I doubt anyone really cared. She wasn't promoting anything related to it and we all saw how people cared for Louboutins.
And let's not get into comparing album promo schedules. Jennifer was on a popular tv show that aired twice a week for how many months? She had a world tour (you know, performing your new songs for thousands of people around the world, that's pretty heavy promotion). Jennifer's era lasted quite a long time.
While Beyonce's promotion was heavy in the start, it quickly lessoned once her album came out and trailed off almost completely by 2012.
Anyway, we could continue to make excuses for statistics but it doesn't change them.
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Originally posted by Lucia
her weird attention seeking istragram/ tumblr posts
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Also, what instagram post is not attention seeking? How is Beyonce's more desperate for attention than anyone else's (celebrity or not)?
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Member Since: 6/13/2012
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Beyonce's a hit with not only the general public but other celebs. How many artists have claimed to be inspired by J.lo? I can name a dozen artists who claim beyonce as their ultimate inspiration.
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
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This is such a dumb thread
J.Lo
-SMASH Hit w/ No legacy
-American Idol Judge
-Flop Album
-Flop 2nd single; All formats
-Flop 3rd single; All formats
-Mediocre Films (WTEWYE & Parker BOMBED)
-70+ Million Grossing Tour
-Fiat deal
-Divorce
-Flop GH
Beyoncé
-2.8 million selling Album
-2 Top 20 Hits WW
-2 Top 20 Hits in the US
-4 Top 10 singles on Urban including #1 R&B single of 2012
-Flop 3rd single (Countdown)
-Media following her every move
-Singing for Obama
-Performing at Oprah's Finale
-Concert tickets selling out within seconds.
-Pregnancy
-SUPERBOWL
-Critical Acclaim
Bey wins.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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I do think that Jennifer Lopez in the past two years has been a little more "culturally relevant" due to the sheer amount of things she's done and accomplished.
However, I take offence at people trying to put Beyonce down to prove this point. Don't try and say that Beyonce is irrelevant when she's done a lot less than Jennifer in two years and is still very close to her in relevance, if not surpassing her in general interest. It weakens your point and puts you in the position of a hater.
But let's speed up to today. Beyonce has $50 million Pepsi deal, a Super Bowl performance, an upcoming HBO documentary and was named the World's Hottest Woman by GQ. She's relevant. And that's all without any information about any new music aside from the Destiny's Child single.
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
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Even with the question skewed for J.Lo, Beyonce still wins.
On The Floor was relevant. That doesn't make the singer relevant. It would have smashed just as hard (if not more) if it had been released by any other pop girl.
Comparing the individuals, Beyonce has still been vastly more relevant than Jennifer, even while on hiatus. I mean, she rubbed her tummy and literally broke Twitter.
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Member Since: 1/31/2012
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Oh yeah I forgot:
Beyoncé
-$50 million Pepsi deal
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Member Since: 12/10/2010
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Beyonce. J.Lo stans need to stop clinging to OTF so much.
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