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Discussion: Do you think a dark skinned woman can become a true popstar?
Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
Yes, in fact i dont get where black people get this idea that only the lightskinned are the most successful & global in music.
Queen of Soul= Aretha Franklin
King of Pop= Michael (and yes at first he was a darkskinned man)
Queen of Disco= Donna Summer
The Voice= Whitney Houston
Kings of Hip Hop= Tupac and Biggie
These are some of the most iconic and global black artists in history
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They get that idea because there is some truth to it. All of those artists you mentioned have immaculate levels of talent that transcend the color of their skin. Not only that, but image wasn't as stressed in music in that era of music (70s - 90s)
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Originally posted by Inverted
Yeah, because Grace Jones was a huge pop star.
Like?
Black Africans and Afro-Caribbean people have skin color variation too.
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I know. But in my family (I come from Dominica) I've never seen hatred for dark skin. Most people are darker skinned than light so you can't really hate it. EVERYONE has darker skin. There is variation, but it's common in some island communities. Most Africans are NOT light at all though. South Africans can be, tops.
Nippy's receipts, they're the exceptions. Diana Ross was looked favourably cause she was whiter looking than others. And those acts had undeniable talent. On a normal day for any industry-white girl>>>>>>any other girl.
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Originally posted by Androgyne
They get that idea because there is some truth to it. All of those artists you mentioned have immaculate levels of talent that transcend the color of their skin. Not only that, but image wasn't as stressed in music in that era of music (70s - 90s)
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we're gonna get on VERY well
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Originally posted by Rigalo
Kelly is just a flop. That's why her music flops. I mean it's not like every white or light skinned black women is smashing the charts. Every color has their successes and their flops.
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No but atleast thier is a chance.
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Member Since: 4/29/2012
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Originally posted by Inverted
Like?
Black Africans and Afro-Caribbean people have skin color variation too.
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Iman, Naomi Campbell, Liya Kebede, Alek Wek, Jessica White, Selita Ebanks, Sessilee Lopez, Lyndsey Scott, Danielle Evans, Ajak Deng, Yasmin Warsame, Fatima Siad, Ubah Hassan, Georgie Badiel
Just to name a few very succesful dark skin models
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Originally posted by amandawendy
Iman, Naomi Campbell, Liya Kebede, Alek Wek, Jessica White, Selita Ebanks, Sessilee Lopez, Lyndsey Scott, Danielle Evans, Ajak Deng, Yasmin Warsame, Fatima Siad, Ubah Hassan, Georgie Badiel
Just to name a few very succesful dark skin models
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Modeling is not music
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Originally posted by TheAqua
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NOoooo you didn't do the queen like that.
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Originally posted by Sláy
we're gonna get on VERY well
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If Kelly did promo she'd smash. Her team is a mess.
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Member Since: 4/29/2012
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Originally posted by whippedcreamdream
Modeling is not music
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Did I say it was? Someone said that it was harder for dark skin women because of photoshoots and I said there's succesful dark skin models who have no problems and the user asked for examples.
Read the whole conversation before commenting on it, thanks!
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Originally posted by Rigalo
Kelly is just a flop. That's why her music flops. I mean it's not like every white or light skinned black women is smashing the charts. Every color has their successes and their flops.
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Oh,I'm sorry.
How are you today?
I was doing a report on album sales in school.
Could you maybe tell me...How much did the Re-Up sell again?
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
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Originally posted by whippedcreamdream
No but atleast thier is a chance.
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No dark skinned girls are trying to do pop right now tho. SO I don't really think you or I can accurately say that a dark skinned girl would flop at pop music. A lot of them are doing more urban leaning sounds.
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Member Since: 4/23/2011
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Originally posted by Androgyne
They get that idea because there is some truth to it. All of those artists you mentioned have immaculate levels of talent that transcend the color of their skin.
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Exactly. Darker people always have to work harder to compete. It's only when they eclipse others in whatever they're competing in and people can't deny they're great at it that they ever have a chance.
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Originally posted by amandawendy
Iman, Naomi Campbell, Liya Kebede, Alek Wek, Jessica White, Selita Ebanks, Sessilee Lopez, Lyndsey Scott, Danielle Evans, Ajak Deng, Yasmin Warsame, Fatima Siad, Ubah Hassan, Georgie Badiel
Just to name a few very succesful dark skin models
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You just named 14 people (including veterans) in an industry that uses hundreds of models and replaces them with new ones every year.
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Originally posted by Sláy
I know. But in my family (I come from Dominica) I've never seen hatred for dark skin. Most people are darker skinned than light so you can't really hate it. EVERYONE has darker skin. There is variation, but it's common in some island communities. Most Africans are NOT light at all though. South Africans can be, tops.
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Put the same people in a bigger area with more varied skin tone and you'll see the true colors come out.
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Originally posted by TheAqua
BTW in my opinion,Kelly is prettier than the other Divas out right now,and she frequently makes the best dressed list. I always found her the prettiest in DC.She stood out the most visually speaking.
Bey and Michelle were both lighskinned and a bit more curvier,but Kelly was exotic, dark skinned and very slender built,and lets not forget the iconic red hair (Rihanna who?)
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Michelle is the same color as Kelly
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Originally posted by TheAqua
Oh,I'm sorry.
How are you today?
I was doing a report on album sales in school.
Could you maybe tell me...How much did the Re-Up sell again?
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Meet me in SYG
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Member Since: 4/9/2012
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Originally posted by Androgyne
They get that idea because there is some truth to it. All of those artists you mentioned have immaculate levels of talent that transcend the color of their skin. Not only that, but image wasn't as stressed in music in that era of music (70s - 90s)
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Image definitely did matter in the 70s-90s, it just matters more now. Image>talent now. Anyways, I think darkskinned women can succeed in pop music today. The problem is black people thrive best when R&B is the popular format of music. In the 90s, black music was mainstream and electronic dance music was a niche market. The opposite is true now, & bw cant succeed unless they go pop like (Rihanna,Nicki).
Beyonce could do it if she really wanted to but instead of doing crossovers, she'd rather release ''urban singles'' and ''international singles''. WTF does that even mean? Urban songs cant be int'l? Because they used to. This is why every era of hers has been messy since Dangerously in Love. The only way to bring R&B back is for an artist to have a smash hit crossover record. The problem is many of these artists have given up on doing crossover records, and just succumb to releasing ''urban'' and ''pop'' singles separately. It gives the impression that urban cant be pop, and those artists basically surrender to the market instead of take a risk
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Originally posted by whippedcreamdream
typical. we should just accept discrimination and get over it and just be happy that a few people can see sucesss. ALL BLACKS should be given the equal oppurtunity but unfortunately for people who have the same racist mentality as you.
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There is no discrimination it's just what dark blacks use when they flop. I'm black as hell and i'm tired of seeing people the same color of me play victim like they life depends on it.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Originally posted by Inverted
Exactly. Darker people always have to work harder to compete. It's only when they eclipse others in whatever they're competing in and people can't deny they're great at it that they ever have a chance.
You just named 14 people (including veterans) in an industry that uses hundreds of models and replaces them with new ones every year.
Put the same people in a bigger area with more varied skin tone and you'll see the true colors come out.
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True though.
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Member Since: 6/13/2012
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Originally posted by princedonte
There is no discrimination it's just what dark blacks use when they flop. I'm black as hell and i'm tired of seeing people the same color of me play victim like they life depends on it.
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Oh really * side eye*
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Originally posted by princedonte
There is no discrimination it's just what dark blacks use when they flop. I'm black as hell and i'm tired of seeing people the same color of me play victim like they life depends on it.
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There is. You live in country with a significant black population. It's worse outside though. They can have success but it's hard to come by. They'll have issues with all sorts which their white contemporaries never will have. You can't deny that. And that influences success rate.
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