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Music News: RCA: "Gold is the new platinum"
Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by Squall
This. All their artists flop but P!nk.  |
Excuse? I do believe Stronger was just certified platinum and is crossing 1 million in sales before the end of the year.
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Well at least my faves aren't getting dropped so that's good to hear 
I really think its just that labels focus more on single success then album success. More singles got platinum over albums, and it's because they're cheaply priced and they don't focus on the appeal of buying a whole album. The general public as whole just isn't interested in music as much as they used to be with all the music based award shows losing viewers, and album sales going down.
I think a solution is for them to lower their album prices, It worked for Lady GaGa with Born This Way and Ke$ha with Animal.
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Originally posted by Will_
Not them trying to make
Lotus look like a success.
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And I think certifications are fine the way they are.
I don't care about them anyway
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This is something we have been saying for awhile now. Everyone in the industry knows it.
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Originally posted by Nait Phoenix
Uh, no, if Gold was the new platinum, then there'd be no reason to make higher quality music anymore...  Why try if all you hope to achieve is 500k?  |
And Gold would mean 250k, what kind of low level? 
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Why everyone clinging onto Adele success? I agree with RCA,just look at the end year sales from over the past years. Album sales been declining.
Top 10 SoundScan Albums 1992- 2012:
1992
1 SOME GAVE ALL Billy Ray Cyrus 4.7m
2 ROPIN' THE WIND Garth Brooks 4.0m
3 TEN Pearl Jam 3.4m
4 THE BODYGUARD Soundtrack 3.3m
5 TOTALLY KROSSED OUT Kris Kross 3.2m
6 NO FENCES Garth Brooks 3.1m
7 THE CHASE Garth Brooks 3.1m
8 NEVERMIND Nirvana 2.7m
9 ADRENALIZED Def Leppard 2.7m
10 METALLICA Metallica 2.6m
1993
1 THE BODYGUARD Soundtrack 5.5m
2 JANET Janet Jackson 4.3m
3 VS Pearl Jam 3.8m
4 BREATHLESS Kenny G 3.8m
5 MUSIC BOX Mariah Carey 3.3m
6 THE CHRONIC Dr Dre 2.9m
7 UNPLUGGED Eric Clapton 2.9m
8 IN PIECES Garth Brooks 2.8m
9 CORE Stone Temple Pilots 2.7m
10 BAT OUT OF HELL II-BACK INTO HELL Meat Loaf 2.6m
1994
1 THE LION KING Soundtrack 4.9m
2 THE SIGN Ace Of Base 4.9m
3 II Boyz II Men 4.3m
4 AUGUST AND EVERYTHING AFTER Counting Crows 3.8m
5 DOOKIE Green Day 3.4m
6 NOT A MOMENT TOO SOON Tim McGraw 3.2m
7 PURPLE Stone Temple Pilots 3.1m
8 MIRACLES:THE HOLIDAY ALBUM Kenny G 3.0m
9 SMASH Offspring 2.9m
10 MUSIC BOX Mariah Carey 2.7m
1995
1 CRACKED REAR VIEW Hootie & The Blowfish 7.0m
2 CRAZYSEXYCOOL TLC 4.8m
3 JAGGED LITTLE PILL Alanis Morissette 4.2m
4 DAYDREAM Mariah Carey 3.9m
5 THE HITS Garth Brooks 3.8m
6 THROWING COPPER Live 3.5m
7 II Boyz II Men 3.4m
8 ANTHOLOGY 1 The Beatles 2.9m
9 HELL FREEZES OVER Eagles 2.8m
10 THE WOMAN IN ME Shania Twain 2.8m
1996
1. Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette: 7,400,000
2. Falling Into You Celine Dion: 6,000,000
3. The Score The Fugees: 4,500,000
4. Tragic Kingdom No Doubt: 4,400,000
5. Daydream Mariah Carey: 3,000,000
6. All Eyez On Me 2Pac: 3,000,000
7. Load Metallica: 3,000,000
8. Secrets Toni Braxton: 2,900,000
9. The Woman In Me Shania Twain: 2,800,000
10. What's The Story Morning Glory? Oasis: 2,600,000
1997
1. Spice Spice Girls: 5,300,000
2. Pieces of You Jewel: 4,300,000
3. No Way Out Puff Daddy & The Family: 3,400,000
4. Sevens Garth Brooks: 3,300,000
5. Middle of Nowhere Hanson: 3,200,000
6. Life After Death The Notorious B.I.G.: 3,100,000
7. Bringing Down The House The Wallflowers: 3,100,000
8. Falling Into You Celine Dion: 3,000,000
9. Space Jam Soundtrack: 2,900,000
10.You Light Up My Life LeAnn Rimes: 2,900,000
1998
1 TITANIC Soundtrack 9,338,061
2 LET'S TALK ABOUT LOVE Celine Dion 5,859,421
3 BACKSTREET BOYS Backstreet Boys 5,709,369
4 COME ON OVER Shania Twain 4,872,841
5 'N SYNC 'N Sync 4,385,148
6 CITY OF ANGELS Soundtrack 4,120,508
7 DOUBLE LIVE Garth Brooks 3,892,288
8 BIG WILLIE STYLE Will Smith 3,687,568
9 SAVAGE GARDEN Savage Garden 3,247,406
10 ARMAGEDDON Soundtrack 3,222,603
1999
1 MILLENNIUM Backstreet Boys 9,445,732
2 ...BABY ONE MORE TIME Britney Spears 8,358,619
3 RICKY MARTIN Ricky Martin 5,981,155
4 COME ON OVER Shania Twain 5,618,134
5 SIGNIFICANT OTHER Limp Bizkit 4,952,890
6 SUPERNATURAL Santana 4,732,589
7 DEVIL WITHOUT A CAUSE Kid Rock 4,259,736
8 FANMAIL TLC 4.186,685
9 CHRISTINA AGUILERA Christina Aguilera 3,662,905
10 WIDE OPEN SPACES Dixie Chicks 3,463,642
2000:
1. N Sync- No Strings Attached- 9.936.104
2. Eminem- The Marshall Mathers LP- 7.921.107
3. Britney Spears- Oops!...I Did it Again- 7.893.544
4. Creed- Human Clay- 6.587.834
5. Santana- Supernatural- 5.857.824
6. The Beatles- 1- 5.068.300
7. Nelly- Country Grammar- 5.067.529
8. Backstreet Boys- Black and Blue- 4.289.865
9. Dr Dre- 2001- 3.992.311
10. Destiny's Child- The Writing's on the Wall- 3.802.165
2001:
1. Hybrid Theory Linkin Park 4,812,852
2. Hotshot Shaggy 4,507,568
3. Celebrity N Sync 4,421,231
4. Day Without Rain Enya 4,410,053
5. Break the Cycle Staind 4,242,507
6. Songs In A Minor Alicia Keys 4,102,482
7. Survivor Destiny's Child 3,718,446
8. Weathered Creed 3,581,344
9. Soundtrack O Brother Where Art Thou? 3,460,852
10. Vol.6-Now That's What I Call Va-Now 3,133,462
2002:
1. 7.607.925 Eminem - Eminem Show
2. 4.916.073 Nelly - Nellyville
3. 4.121.396 Avril Lavigne - Let Go
4. 3.690.413 Dixie Chicks - Home
5. 3.498.497 Soundtrack - 8 Mile
6. 3.144.947 Pink - M!ssundaztood
7. 3.099.216 Ashanti - Ashanti
8. 3.054.736 Alan Jackson - Drive
9. 2.909.499 Shania Twain - Up
10. 2.736.049 Soundtrack O Brother, Where Art Thou?
2003:
1. 50 Cent Get Rich Or Die Tryin' 6,535,809
2. Jones Norah Come Away With Me 5,137,468
3. Linkin Park Meteora 3,478,361
4. Evanescence Fallen 3,364,738
5. Outkast Speakerboxx-Love 3,089,849
6. Beyonce Dangerously In Love 2,527,485
7. Kelly R. Chocolate Factory 2,439,536
8. Duff Hilary Metamorphosis 2,405,544
9. Keith Toby Shock N Y'all 2,324,437
10. Coldplay Rush Of Blood To The Head 2,183,997
2004:
1. "Confessions," Usher: 7,978,594
2. "Feels Like Home," Norah Jones: 3,842,920
3. "Encore," Eminem: 3,517,097
4. "When The Sun Goes Down," Kenny Chesney: 3,072,224
5. "Here for the Party," Gretchen Wilson: 2,931,097
6. "Live Like You Were Dying," Tim McGraw: 2,786,840
7. "Songs About Jane," Maroon 5: 2,708,415
8. "Fallen," Evanesence: 2,614,226
9. "Autobiography," Ashlee Simpson: 2,576,945
10. "Now 16: Now That's What I Call Music!": 2,560,316
2005:
1. CAREY*MARIAH EMANCIPATION OF MIMI 4,968,606
2. 50 CENT MASSACRE 4,852,744
3. CLARKSON*KELLY BREAKAWAY 3,496,192
4. GREEN DAY AMERICAN IDIOT 3,360,394
5. BLACK EYED PEAS MONKEY BUSINESS 3,037,251
6. COLDPLAY X&Y 2,615,280
7. RASCAL FLATTS FEELS LIKE TODAY 2,511,209
8. STEFANI*GWEN LOVE.ANGEL.MUSIC.BABY 2,505,390
9. WEST*KANYE LATE REGISTRATION 2,413,580
10. GAME DOCUMENTARY 2,275,646
2006:
1. High School Musical: 3.72 million
2. Rascal Flatts Me and My Gang: 3.48 million
3. Carrie Underwood Some Hearts: 3.02 million
4. Nickelback All the Right Reasons: 2.69 million
5. Justin Timberlake Futuresex/Lovesounds: 2.38 million
6. James Blunt Back to Bedlam: 2.14 million
7. Beyonce B'day: 2.01 million
8. Hannah Montana: 1.99 million
9. Dixie Chicks Taking the Long Way: 1.86 million
10. Hinder Extreme Behavior: 1.82 million
2007:
1 NOEL JOSH GROBAN 3,698,934
2 HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 2 SOUNDTRACK 2,956,799
3 LONG ROAD OUT OF EDEN EAGLES 2,608,338
4 AS I AM ALICIA KEYS 2,543,224
5 DAUGHTRY DAUGHTRY 2,497,457
6 HANNAH MONTANA 2(SOUNDTRACK):MEET MILEY CYRUS MILEY CYRUS 2,487,346
7 MINUTES TO MIDNIGHT LINKIN PARK 2,098,941
8 THE DUTCHESS FERGIE 2,063,572
9 TAYLOR SWIFT TAYLOR SWIFT 1,950,641
10 GRADUATION KANYE WEST 1,891,918
2008:
1 Tha Carter III/ Lil Wayne 2,874,000
2 Viva La Vida/ Coldplay 2,144,000
3 Fearless/Taylor Swift 2,112,000
4 Rock N Roll Jesus/ Kid Rock 2,018,000
5 Black Ice/ AC/DC 1,915,000
6 Taylor Swift/Taylor Swift 1,597,000
7 Death Magnetic/ Metallica 1,565,000
8 Paper Trail/ T.I. 1,522,000
9 Sleep Through the Static/ Jack Johnson 1,492,000
10 I Am…Sasha Fierce/ Beyonce 1,459,000
2009:
1 Fearless Taylor Swift 3,217,000
2 I Dreamed A Dream Susan Boyle 3,103,828
3 Number Ones Michael Jackson 2,355,000
4 Fame Lady Gaga 2,238,000
5 My Christmas Andrea Bocelli 2,207,000
6 Hannah Movie Soundtrack Hanna Montana 1,823,000
7 The E.N.D. Black Eyed Peas 1,786,852
8 Relapse Eminem 1,735,358
9 Blueprint 3 Jay-Z 1,514,800
10 Only By the Night Kings of Leon 1,398,000
2010:
1. Eminem – Recovery 3,415,000
2. Lady Antebellum – Need You Now 3,089,000
3. Taylor Swift – Speak Now 2,960,000
4. Justin Bieber – My World 2.0 2,319,000
5. Susan Boyle – The Gift 1,852,000
6. Lady Gaga – Fame 1,591,000
7. Sade – Soldier of Love 1,300,000
8. Drake – Thank Me Later 1,269,000
9. Usher – Raymond V Raymond 1,143,000
10. Ke$ha - Animal 1,143,000
2011:
01 5,824,000 Adele, 21
02 2,452,000 Michael Buble, Christmas
03 2,101,000 Lady GaGa, Born This Way
04 1,917,000 Lil Wayne, Tha Carter IV
05 1,576,000 Jason Aldean, My Kinda Party
06 1,420,000 Mumford & Sons, Sigh No More
07 1,247,000 Drake, Take Care
08 1,245,000 Justin Bieber, Under the Mistletoe
09 1,232,000 Jay-Z & Kanye West, Watch the Throne
10 1,204,000 Lady Antebellum, Own the Night
2012:
01 - 4,150,000 - 21 - Adele
02 - 1,749,000 - RED - Taylor Swift
03 - 1,349,000 - UP ALL NIGHT - One Direction
04 - 1,077,000 - BABEL - Mumford & Sons
05 - 1,034,000 - TUSKEGEE - Lionel Richie
06 - 989,000 - BELIEVE - Justin Bieber
07 - 920,000 - BLOWN AWAY - Carrie Underwood
08 - 898,000 - TAILGATES AND TANLINES - Luke Bryan
09 - 867,000 - THE GREATEST HITS - Whitney Houston
10 - 751,000 - NOW 41 - Various
* 2012 sales are updated until last week's chart.
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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500k= platinum
250k = gold
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Member Since: 12/30/2010
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They should just change the prices of the CDs, people would buy music if it was cheaper.
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Member Since: 6/22/2012
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I think there's only been 7-8 platinum albums this year. Gold really is the new platinum
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Originally posted by Squall
And Gold would mean 250k, what kind of low level? |
Many artists cant even open with more than 100-200k nowadays. It makes sense.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
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No, I don't agree.
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Originally posted by Karma Chameleon
no, if Adele can still go diamond I don't see why anyone else couldn't too. Labels need to alter their release strategies tbh to optimize their sales
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Adele wasn't really about strategy, though. She did the minimum and got the maximum.
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Member Since: 12/30/2010
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Originally posted by Reza
Many artists cant even open with more than 100-200k nowadays. It makes sense.
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It would be messy and easy, every album that would have sold 250k would be considered as a success, they should just try to "fix" the situation and make people want to buy albums, they just do nothing.....
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Member Since: 3/9/2011
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Originally posted by Devon
No, they should not change rankings. If Adele can still sell millions of albums, it proves that people are still willing to BUY albums. Record companies need to realize they can't use the same damn formula to release an album and they need to realize they have to step up their game/promo.
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People need to realize that just because ONE person sells 20+ million albums, that DOESN'T mean that everyone else can, even at the height of their sucesss. Album sales overall are down, and certifications need to be lowered to match the state of the market.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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I mean, they kind of would say that.
That being said, yes, sales need to be kind of considered in terms of overall sales - which are much lower than they used to be. But what would 1,000,000 be then? Certainly not diamond, for that's too far of a leap. What would diamond be? For every total anomaly like Adele, we need a certification like that.
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Member Since: 6/25/2011
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I don't agree. Maybe more artist need to step it up and produce an album full of hits so the general public will feel like they should buy the whole album rather then some singles...
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Adele does not define the state of the rest of the industry though. No one else is close to her level right now.
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Member Since: 8/2/2012
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Originally posted by trinafan92
Why everyone clinging onto Adele success? I agree with RCA,just look at the end year sales from over the past years. Album sales been declining.
Top 10 SoundScan Albums 1992- 2012:
2003
1. 50 Cent Get Rich Or Die Tryin' 6,535,809
2. Jones Norah Come Away With Me 5,137,468
3. Linkin Park Meteora 3,478,361
4. Evanescence Fallen 3,364,738
5. Outkast Speakerboxx-Love 3,089,849
6. Beyonce Dangerously In Love 2,527,485
7. Kelly R. Chocolate Factory 2,439,536
8. Duff Hilary Metamorphosis 2,405,544
9. Keith Toby Shock N Y'all 2,324,437
10. Coldplay Rush Of Blood To The Head 2,183,997
2004:
1. "Confessions," Usher: 7,978,594
2. "Feels Like Home," Norah Jones: 3,842,920
3. "Encore," Eminem: 3,517,097
4. "When The Sun Goes Down," Kenny Chesney: 3,072,224
5. "Here for the Party," Gretchen Wilson: 2,931,097
6. "Live Like You Were Dying," Tim McGraw: 2,786,840
7. "Songs About Jane," Maroon 5: 2,708,415
8. "Fallen," Evanesence: 2,614,226
9. "Autobiography," Ashlee Simpson: 2,576,945
10. "Now 16: Now That's What I Call Music!":
* 2012 sales are updated until last week's chart.
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You lost me after I saw my fave in the top 10 2 years in a row 
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Member Since: 3/9/2011
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Quote:
Originally posted by ALΞX
People need to realize that just because ONE person sells 20+ million albums, that DOESN'T mean that everyone else can, even at the height of their sucesss. Album sales overall are down, and certifications need to be lowered to match the state of the market.
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Who's saying that other artist will sell 20M?  If Adele can sell albums, other artist are capable of that too. Not 20M obviously, but more than 20k - 100K. A lot of these record labels are doing it all wrong, and if it's not them. It's the artist, or their music.
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Good music sells nowadays, as it always has. Singles sales are on point, but albums released nowadays are mostly... 
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