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Discussion: Was Janet Jackson Local?
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Originally posted by jose168
idk if she was that big everyone should have general knowledge on her singles but thats not the case. however thats not the case. rhythm nation is the only single that comes to mind honestly
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Before getting into her I only knew a handful of Mariah Carey songs, But that still doesn't matter because she was still big in my country in the 90's anyway. And statistically Rhythm Nation is nowhere near as big as her other singles, it was a classic because of the video, Like Thriller
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Originally posted by tcweh
Before getting into her I only knew a handful of Mariah Carey songs, But that still doesn't matter because she was still big in my country in the 90's anyway. And statistically Rhythm Nation is nowhere near as big as her other singles, it was a classic because of the video, Like Thriller
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But why did you make a thread asking if Janet was local then shoot down everyone disagreeing with you?
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Member Since: 1/18/2012
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Originally posted by Jack.
But why did you make a thread asking if Janet was local then shoot down everyone disagreeing with you?
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Because it's a discussion not a poll
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no.
and her sales & worldwide impact prove that.
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In comparison to some of her peers, she hasn't had as much global success. However, I don't think that makes her "local." She's done pretty well for herself and has had a great career. It kills me when people act like Janet has achieved NOTHING great.
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Yes. You could argue that Janet was local, outside of the US and Japan (her biggest markets) she wasn't very successful. Ultimately it is hard to say someone isn't local without at least in some way cracking Europe. That's what sets Janet apart from the Celine's, Madonna's, Mariah's, Whitney's and Britney's. That being said being local isn't necessarily a bad thing Shania Twain, Barbra Striesand (the 5th best selling female artist of all time) and Taylor Swift are largely local too compared to their worldwide success, same with Alanis although she did briefly have global success with Supposed Junkie and Jagged Little Pill.
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Originally posted by Sawdust
In comparison to some of her peers, she hasn't had as much global success. However, I don't think that makes her "local." She's done pretty well for herself and has had a great career. It kills me when people act like Janet has achieved NOTHING great.
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Member Since: 7/9/2009
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What the hell is this thread and the logic where if one person doesn't know many songs by an artist, that automatically means they are local? I don't know many Madonna songs outside of her big singles; that doesn't mean I'm gonna dare call her local. I don't know many Celine songs at all; she's not local. Da ****?
Janet was (and is - The Up Close And Personal Tour had sold out shows in much of Europe, Asia & Australia last year) an international artist and celebrity. Janet was always innovative and was known for her elaborate shows, insane choreography and provocative lyrical content. Anyone who watched For The Record (or knows anything about Britney Spears at all) knows that Janet was one of Britney's biggest influences. When Janet got signed, she had a record-breaking contract and was actually one of the highest paid entertainers in HISTORY. She has sold over 100 million records, had NUMEROUS top ten hits all over the world (yes, most of her NUMBER ONES are in the United States, but number ones are not all that matters when discussing "local"-ness). The only thing I would say is local about Janet is the movies/television portion of her career.
Aside from her music, Janet helped paved the way for black artists worldwide - her, Michael, Whitney and Prince were arguably the biggest African American stars of their time and among the first to be fully embraced by all audiences. Rihanna, Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez and others have cited her as an influence and inspiration. She consistently makes lists of top female artists of all time and her contributions to pop music and diminishing the sexual wall placed around female artists will forever be remembered.
Yes, she is Michael's sister, but Michael has more than one sister and more than one brother. Tell me if the world remembers the rest of their names. I'll wait.
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Jack.
But why did you make a thread asking if Janet was local then shoot down everyone disagreeing with you?
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It's a discussion, you are meant to back up your arguments with facts & receipts
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by ItsKingsleyBitch
What the hell is this thread and the logic where if one person doesn't know many songs by an artist, that automatically means they are local?
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The ignorance in this thread is too much
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Originally posted by jose168
did i lie
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Yesssss, Khia got ha single to #90 on the Billboard charts. The Queen Shamone.
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Originally posted by Cassiopeia
Definitely. So is Kylie.
And Cher and even Tina Turner
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Cher and Tina are more known than everyone though, they have decades on even Madonna.
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Originally posted by ItsKingsleyBitch
What the hell is this thread and the logic where if one person doesn't know many songs by an artist, that automatically means they are local? I don't know many Madonna songs outside of her big singles; that doesn't mean I'm gonna dare call her local. I don't know many Celine songs at all; she's not local. Da ****?
Janet was (and is - The Up Close And Personal Tour had sold out shows in much of Europe, Asia & Australia last year) an international artist and celebrity. Janet was always innovative and was known for her elaborate shows, insane choreography and provocative lyrical content. Anyone who watched For The Record (or knows anything about Britney Spears at all) knows that Janet was one of Britney's biggest influences. When Janet got signed, she had a record-breaking contract and was actually one of the highest paid entertainers in HISTORY. She has sold over 100 million records, had NUMEROUS top ten hits all over the world (yes, most of her NUMBER ONES are in the United States, but number ones are not all that matters when discussing "local"-ness). The only thing I would say is local about Janet is the movies/television portion of her career.
Aside from her music, Janet helped paved the way for black artists worldwide - her, Michael, Whitney and Prince were arguably the biggest African American stars of their time and among the first to be fully embraced by all audiences. Rihanna, Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez and others have cited her as an influence and inspiration. She consistently makes lists of top female artists of all time and her contributions to pop music and diminishing the sexual wall placed around female artists will forever be remembered.
Yes, she is Michael's sister, but Michael has more than one sister and more than one brother. Tell me if the world remembers the rest of their names. I'll wait.
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It's Kingsley Bitch.
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Member Since: 9/5/2011
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Only on ATRL is she considered local.
She's your faves fave. I don't have to pull out receipts because whenever your fave does something, Janet has already did it. Just remember when your fave "slays" the stage, it was the stage Janet built.
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She was well known worldwide and had a strong fanbase but outside of US, Canada and Asia despite being a big star her commercial success and relevance was never that huge, even though her tour ticket sales were always large everywhere.
She only had a few moderate worldwide hits and a couple of worldwide hit albums. Most of her achievements were in the US. Her name is very well known and everybody knows who she is but not many people who are my age in the UK would be able to name many of her songs, maybe only 'Rhythm Nation'. I have one friend who is also a fan of hers and knows all of her music. She's never had a #1 single here in the UK. That's The Way Love Goes was her biggest hit here and peaked at #2, but her janet. album hit #1.
I know her music because I grew up listening to her and my mother was a big fan.
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Originally posted by ItsKingsleyBitch
What the hell is this thread and the logic where if one person doesn't know many songs by an artist, that automatically means they are local? I don't know many Madonna songs outside of her big singles; that doesn't mean I'm gonna dare call her local. I don't know many Celine songs at all; she's not local. Da ****?
Janet was (and is - The Up Close And Personal Tour had sold out shows in much of Europe, Asia & Australia last year) an international artist and celebrity. Janet was always innovative and was known for her elaborate shows, insane choreography and provocative lyrical content. Anyone who watched For The Record (or knows anything about Britney Spears at all) knows that Janet was one of Britney's biggest influences. When Janet got signed, she had a record-breaking contract and was actually one of the highest paid entertainers in HISTORY. She has sold over 100 million records, had NUMEROUS top ten hits all over the world (yes, most of her NUMBER ONES are in the United States, but number ones are not all that matters when discussing "local"-ness). The only thing I would say is local about Janet is the movies/television portion of her career.
Aside from her music, Janet helped paved the way for black artists worldwide - her, Michael, Whitney and Prince were arguably the biggest African American stars of their time and among the first to be fully embraced by all audiences. Rihanna, Beyonce, Jennifer Lopez and others have cited her as an influence and inspiration. She consistently makes lists of top female artists of all time and her contributions to pop music and diminishing the sexual wall placed around female artists will forever be remembered.
Yes, she is Michael's sister, but Michael has more than one sister and more than one brother. Tell me if the world remembers the rest of their names. I'll wait.
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Snatch their dry weaves!
Even on television she is widely known. Janet has been in the entertainment industry longer than most of her contemporaries. She's a legend and highly respected.
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Half of you didn't know any Madonna's songs other than "Like a Virgin" and "4 Minutes" before you registered here or before Madonna's stans called Gaga out for stealing her song, or before the whole 'reductive' comment. Most of you aren't even aware of music pre-2008 (maybe pre-2004, I'll give some of you some credit). I don't know why y'all even say, "well, I never heard any song by her before coming here," like that means anything. A typical ATRL member response when talking about legends, icons and the localness of certain artists.
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Member Since: 7/9/2009
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Hal of you didn't know any Madonna's songs other than "Like a Virgin" and "4 Minutes" before you registered here or before Madonna's stans called Gaga out for stealing her song, or before the whole 'reductive' comment. Most of you aren't even aware of music pre-2008 (maybe pre-2004, I'll give some of you some credit). I don't know why y'all even say, "well, I never heard any song by her before coming here," like that means anything. A typical ATRL member response when talking about legends, icons and the localness of certain artists.
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RIGHT.
Some of these comments are just
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Member Since: 6/26/2010
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I mean the receipts are right in your face and you girls still say that she is local just becase
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