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Movie: Katy's concert movie won't break even from box-office
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This thread was obviously made to sabotage Miss Katherine and you'll stay pressed.
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Originally posted by UnusualBoy
Considering it only cost like 2million she's gonna get a lot profit for this
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No. It didn't cost much, but the massive promotional campaign probably cost more than the actual movie. She'll have to gross 40-50m before she starts making profit.
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Can't Katycats just let go of the low budget argument? 12 million is NOT a low budget for a concert film which doesn't require much production value or a top notch cast and crew working continuous for an extended period of time. Bieber's budget was 13 million so it is not an excuse at all.
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Yes it is a valid excuse, considering movie critics and boxoffice experts are using it I'll take it over your opinion. In any case, it'll pass the budget this weekend so whatever.
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Originally posted by MelovesBey
I don't understand why they released a movie for her? It could of been a behind the scenes on MTV or vh1. Britney Spears movie would of been more interesting.
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This is probably why.
There is no MTV Diary or Behind The Music anymore, at least not that anyone cares about. Those are the safer investments too since they're on MTV's money and MTV will play the hell out of it and make it up through ad revenue.
Hopefully, it'll break even.
However, I have zero interest in seeing it.
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Originally posted by Kats
Yes it is a valid excuse, considering movie critics and boxoffice experts are using it I'll take it over your opinion. In any case, it'll pass the budget this weekend so whatever.
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She'll pass the movie budget, but not the overall movie + campaign budget. She still has 20m+ to go.
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Po chile I hope she atleast matches the budget, I heard it wasn't bad actually. I hope she doesn't flop.
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Originally posted by LDYGG
She'll pass the movie budget, but not the overall movie + campaign budget. She still has 20m+ to go.
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Which she'll likely do with just North American market. Not including Europe, Oceania, and South America.
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Originally posted by LDYGG
She'll pass the movie budget, but not the overall movie + campaign budget. She still has 20m+ to go.
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Lol, no. (12+|15~20|)*2.5=67.5~80. She needs about 70~80M worldwide to break even. Don't see her making it.
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Originally posted by pika
Mess @ you taking an hour to reply. Releasing it to theaters was a smart tactic of them to cash in on Katy's peak. Of course they wouldn't just release something to DVD when they can get a lot more money from a theater release, and the plus of her being so popular. However, she is not as popular as say Hannah Montana or Justin Bieber and her numbers for this opening weekend show that. But you've still failed to see the logic of this is a Katy film, it's for the Katy fans. If she wanted the general public, non fans, and all that nonsense to go see her movie she wouldn't have marketed it as a 3D concert film. If you didn't know, these 3D concert films are usually released for the FANS that weren't able to see their fav live. Hannah Montana and the Michael Jackson movie were adamant of this and were marketed as so. A documentary on MTV about Katy would've been done if she wanted non-fans and the bigger mass of the general public to take interest in her personal life.
Secondly, I'm finding it very hypocritical and backtracking of some of you guys to claim that "Katy has 5 #1s, only female to do this, she should have bigger numbers." "Katy is a WW superstar, she sold 5m+ albums and so many singles. I expected more" Then turn around and discredit those achievements as nothing and claim her to be a flash in the pan and non-interesting. Stick to one script. How can you guys expect her to have big opening numbers, but discredit all her success in a different thread. Maybe you haven't done it, but most likely a general mass of the people in this thread have.
And once again, you've clearly missed the last part of my paragraph that said the movie is projected to make back its budget in its opening weekend. And there's still the rest of the summer to go. If that's not good, then what numbers were you expecting? If she's projected to make around 12-19 million, that's pretty good. Especially with all the recent competition set by Brave, Madagascar 3, Spiderman, Ted, and Magic Mike.
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Oh no, excuse me for *GASP* having a life and duties! It must be nice to have time to park yourself here on ATRL all day without a care in the world. Since you have time for that, you should catch up on reading the article Japser X posted here: that she's actually expected to gross around the Jonas Bros release numbers. Also, another posted just did the math regarding the amount it takes to make back the budget - you could spend some time cross checking that with relevant research and make sure he/she is correct in that statement.
Please refer to the bold statements above - see a contradiction here?
Katy releasing the movie to theaters to cash in means that she feels confident enough that there are masses that want to see the movie, thus translating into revenue.
Then, you decry that she's not as popular and it's only for fans. That would mean that not popular equals to much less revenue. Again, begs the question - if it was ONLY for fans and it's only a 3d concert, why not do a DVD release? THe fact that you said she's not as popular also adds to the justification of a DVD release vs theatrical.
I'm not really going to address the discredit her success thing because you're going off on a tangent. Completely.
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Originally posted by Delita_chan
Oh no, excuse me for *GASP* having a life and duties! It must be nice to have time to park yourself here on ATRL all day without a care in the world. Since you have time for that, you should catch up on reading the article Japser X posted here: that she's actually expected to gross around the Jonas Bros release numbers. Also, another posted just did the math regarding the amount it takes to make back the budget - you could spend some time cross checking that with relevant research and make sure he/she is correct in that statement.
Please refer to the bold statements above - see a contradiction here?
Katy releasing the movie to theaters to cash in means that she feels confident enough that there are masses that want to see the movie, thus translating into revenue.
Then, you decry that she's not as popular and it's only for fans. That would mean that not popular equals to much less revenue. Again, begs the question - if it was ONLY for fans and it's only a 3d concert, why not do a DVD release? THe fact that you said she's not as popular also adds to the justification of a DVD release vs theatrical.
I'm not really going to address the discredit her success thing because you're going off on a tangent. Completely.
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Releasing it to theaters was a way to cash in on her fanbase. Since she's at her peak and her fanbase is most loyal, a 3D concert film would be a lot more successful than say just releasing it to DVD. The movie is STILL for the fans, but why not cash in on both a theatrical AND DVD release instead of just choosing one? It's a marketing tactic because Katy will probably not be in the peak popularity that she is right now ever again.
Your argument for her wanting to appeal to the general public is so transparent. How can the movie be marketed for the GP to want to go see her movie, yet the movie was marketed as a 3D concert? Nowhere in the trailers or in the previews did this say it would be a full documentary on her life and such. It's a light hearted movie for again THE FANS to watch. Obviously since your ass doesn't want to go see it, and seeing as it is clear that you aren't a fan that the movie was not marketed towards you. However if you just look all around ATRL or Twitter, the people going are only Katy Kats.
When I said she "Wasn't as popular" I meant her fanbase wasn't as popular as Hannah Montana and Justin Bieber, and I made that very clear. Perhaps you should spend more time *GASP* reading what I actually said instead of skimming my paragraphs and deciding to right another pretentious and uneducated reply.
So what if she's opening close to the Jonas Brothers numbers? That doesn't mean she won't make more money than them. The movie cost 12 million out the gate to make, with an additional 10-15 million to market (As said in this thread). That's around 27 million. If the movie is about to open with ~12-19 million JUST including the states, she'll make back the budget in her other major markets in the world such as Europe and Australia.
I've asked the question about 3 times now and I still have gotten no answer; How much did you expect this movie to make on opening weekend? It's getting to the point of pathetic for you to keep spending all this energy typing up these ridiculous delusional novels without answering a simple question.
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Originally posted by pika
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Perhaps you should spend more time *GASP* reading what I actually said instead of skimming my paragraphs and deciding to right another pretentious and uneducated reply.
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I've asked the question about 3 times now and I still have gotten no answer; How much did you expect this movie to make on opening weekend? It's getting to the point of pathetic for you to keep spending all this energy typing up these ridiculous delusional novels without answering a simple question.
I expected this movie to gross big as hell numbers, given the promotion, the hype, the ticket giveaway (from Amazon) and the fact that she has five #1s, the only female to accomplish this.
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So many contradictions, but hey, you don't want novel-type responses, I'll be brief.
You got an answer from me regarding how much I expected to make - I guess instead of chastising my "skimming" paragraphs, you should have actually read. If you didn't, I reposted it above. Who's skimming again?
Before we make assumptions about my "energy," wasn't it you who was parked on ATRL for an hour waiting for my response? . And as I stated, I answered your question. You chose not to read it. Not my fault.
You honestly think it takes so much effort and energy? Really? This is Katy Perry, not my grad school comps. Now THOSE I spent energy polishing a solid-steel argument.
I will entertain this on SYG if you wish to continue.
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What's up with all those essays
Not surprised tbh
how's the movie doing WW
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Anyone who came up with the idea of releasing a movie for her at such a young stage of her career is retarded. I'm not expecting a high gross at all. I'm definitely excited to see it myself though, hope it gets released here.
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Katy fanbase is still small... I mean look at her albums sales.
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Originally posted by Pop pop123
Katy fanbase is still small... I mean look at her albums sales.
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#5 after 2 year? yaa theyre bad
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Nicole posted some interesting numbers in SYG regarding the expected gross. It's supposedly set to make only 9.2 million or so, with already a 13% drop from yesterday. I would have anticipated more people to go today, but we'll see what the weekend brings.
There are an awful lot of commercials and promo for this. I wonder if the budget really was 12 million. o_O
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I saw the movie tonight it was a great movie but there were only about 10 people in the theatre.
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Originally posted by Delita_chan
There are an awful lot of commercials and promo for this. I wonder if the budget really was 12 million. o_O
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It is $12M if you only count production budget. Marketing budget hasn't been announced, though. It is said that the marketing budget is at least around $10M - $20M.
Ps. Justin Bieber: Never Say Never cost $13M; nevertheless, Paramount spent a addition $25M on marketing. It should be noted that Paramount was eyeing on Katy's to have the same opening scale as JB's. And that certainly indicates how much they've spent on campaigns.
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