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Discussion: Nicki's Future In Pop.
Member Since: 2/17/2012
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Originally posted by Doc
You think so? Roman Holiday is pretty crazy, but it couldn't be any other way; it's a theatrical piece and it works for what it is completely (IMO of course). Come On A Cone only has crazy voices in the chorus. Stupid Hoe has a bit. Everything else — I Am Your Leader, Beez In The Trap, HOV Lane, Champion, Roman Reloaded, Sex In The Lounge — is without overdone/over-exaggerated voices.
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Stupid Hoe is the only ones where her crazy voices really work. It's extremely overdone and repetitive on the others. Like, she uses the same tricks she uses over and over. It's just too much.
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PTA will be the biggest thing ever...and that's all that matters
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Member Since: 6/1/2011
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Originally posted by Division
Turn the question on its head: Why do so many of you want Nicki to be some run of the mill "local" artist, that'll probably end up like Lil Kim and all these other wastes of potential?
The fact Starships, Turn Me On, Super Bass, Where Them Girls At and soon Pound The Alarm are her biggest songs BY FAR really mean nothing to you guys? Holy cow...
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I actually love your posts
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Member Since: 2/25/2012
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She has to keep it balanced.
She should just do something similar to Animal + Cannibal for all her eras. One EP and one full album, but they techinically go together.
The full-length album should be rap, and the EP is pop. The full-length album would get released in 2014 and the EP in 2015.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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I wouldn't mind if Nicki continued to make pop music as long as its the type of cross-over pop that was on Pink Friday.
I'll take Super Bass, Fly, & Your Love over Starships, & Pound The Alarm any day.
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
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I think the fact I'm from outside the USA, where there are 6.7 billion of us, and Nicki is marketed by Cash Money as Rihanna meets Gaga, yeah it factors in the frustration of talking to her US fans.
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Member Since: 6/1/2011
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I want another monster verse,. That is ALL I ASK.
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Member Since: 2/29/2012
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Originally posted by Siya
The pop fans will be pissed if she does full hiphop.
Hence SS is #5 on Billboard while BITT is in the #40s?
I DO want her to work with Diplo
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Pop fans are generally fickle and will lap up her next pop hit whenever she decides to release it. They will be OKAY.
I hope she doesn't have anything against Diplo, cus the potential slayage of a production collabo with him is......
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
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Originally posted by ethan
I can see where he's coming from, he's over in the UK where she's huge for her pop songs. He's not trying to get the Barbs riled up.
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Well, he is clearly trying to push the idea that Nicki will be a pop artist for future albums, which he knows the barbs, in general, aren't really here for. Maybe he's not trying to rile them up, but he's most certainly forcing the idea on them.
He needs to realize that Nicki isn't from the UK and has/had a strong urban following. She can't just completely neglect them and she wouldn't be stupid to do that. She is at least trying to appeal to them now. Her WW success won't make her forget that the hip hop crowd made her.
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by Division
Turn the question on its head: Why do so many of you want Nicki to be some run of the mill "local" artist, that'll probably end up like Lil Kim and all these other wastes of potential?
The fact Starships, Turn Me On, Super Bass, Where Them Girls At and soon Pound The Alarm are her biggest songs BY FAR really mean nothing to you guys? Holy cow...
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What don't you get that those songs sans Super Bass will be FORGOTTEN . WHO remembers Where Them Girls At? WHO remembers Turn Me On even? Nobody. You know why? Cause they're too busy moving on to the next Rihanna and Katy Perry song that they hear on the radio. Her pop songs are her most successful cause pop is the hit genre right now. Success isn't everything, and you won't get that until you get your head out of the charts. We want Nicki to stay with hip-hop because we want her to make an impact and be remembered as a rap icon. Her hip-hop songs are better than her pop songs, and hip-hop is her calling. Not being some throwaway pop artist that never found an identity. Good lord Division.
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Originally posted by Division
I think the fact I'm from outside the USA, where there are 6.7 billion of us, and Nicki is marketed by Cash Money as Rihanna meets Gaga, yeah it factors in the frustration of talking to her US fans.
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You act like these audiences don't know any of her Hip-Hop, when if you YT the videos from the tour, the crowds are LOUDER during her Hip-Hop songs, especially in Australia and tonight in Sweden.
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Member Since: 12/26/2011
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Originally posted by MP2K
Whatever she does she just needs to make it CLEAR to us what she's serving before the era starts. That's all. Give us a heads up.
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YES! because to drop Roman in Moscow then Stupid Hoe & all of a sudden drop Starships were meant to fly, it's just a mess
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Member Since: 1/11/2012
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Originally posted by Siya
I want another monster verse,. That is ALL I ASK.
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A verse of insane quality on HER OWN DAMN SONG... is that too much to ask, Nicki?!
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Member Since: 5/10/2012
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Division loves trolling the barbs.
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What's wrong with what he said? He actually brought up valid points. If she was some longevity in her career, then Nicki is going to have to experiment with different genres.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
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Originally posted by fortheloveofmusic
!!!! thank u KoreanDream
NICKI DIDN'T just pop up with some pop song and became a phenomenon.
She came up the true hip hop way, from underground rapper, to mainstream. Her URBAN fans were the ones who rode with her since MYSPACE They were a biggest support and she knows this. She even said most of the sales of Pink Friday came out of NEW YORK.
Nicki is accepted by the urban community. Don't let people fool u. Yes, people might get annoyed with Nicki but it's not like she's completely dismissed by the urban community.
Nicki is a Hip Hop artist at her core and nothing will change that. She SHINES when she does Hip Hop and has a gloss on her that is unique and her own. When she does pop, she becomes a dime a dozen instead of a unique talent who can't be duplicated.
I really don't get why some people want her to become a full pop artist. It's great to have a few crossover pop-rap hits like "Superbass" but that's where it should end.
I could write a whole dam thread on this but I'd rather just do it in sections :deadbanana;
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I completely agree with all of this. Roman Reloaded is going to be great for what it is, but hopefully she'll return to her urban roots next era. I have no problem with pop songs here and there because she now has a relative obligation to deliver to mainstream audiences thanks to Super Bass and Starships, but she must display loyalty to the community that has been displaying loyalty to her since '04.
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by madonnas
Stupid Hoe is the only ones where her crazy voices really work. It's extremely overdone and repetitive on the others. Like, she uses the same tricks she uses over and over. It's just too much.
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Well then that leaves just two songs like that (COAC & RH). The other 6 songs are without crazy voices, so it's hardly a theme on the album.
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Member Since: 6/1/2011
Posts: 15,684
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Originally posted by ethan
A verse of insane quality on HER OWN DAMN SONG... is that too much to ask, Nicki?!
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Why is it so hard?
Kanye?!?!? We need you!
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Member Since: 1/19/2012
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If this girl goes emphasis pop with her next album Urban is legit going to drop her ass like hotcakes. She NEEDS to have the emphasis be on Rap next album or she will be affected HEAVILY. As we see with this current album, the general public don't appreciate the "half and half" she's trying to do. But at the end of the day, Nicki has to do her and is going to do what SHE wants.
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Member Since: 2/25/2012
Posts: 9,540
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Originally posted by Division
I think the fact I'm from outside the USA, where there are 6.7 billion of us, and Nicki is marketed by Cash Money as Rihanna meets Gaga, yeah it factors in the frustration of talking to her US fans.
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I think this is the problem. Nicki's being advertised and branded as a popstar internationally, and she isn't known for her hip hop side.
I get where Division is coming from and his perspective. Outside the US, Nicki's recognized as pop. She's only know as a hip hop talent locally. That's what needs to change next era.
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