[pika]

Originally posted by Right Now

You're the one with no receipts in this thread. All of the shows you mentioned and the film I brought up, Lemonade Mouth were more than likely inspired by High School Musical, rather than Hannah Montana. Note how all the current Disney & Nick girls refer to Lizzie McGuire & Hilary as their childhood inspiration not Hannah & especially not Miley. Well unless you count Carly Jae Repson.

You're calling me out for not having receipts, when you still don't provide any. What do Disney and Nick girls referencing Hilary have ANYTHING to do with the cultural impact of Hannah Montana and Lizzie McGuire. You jump from point to point since you can't support the previous one you made. And as I distinctively remember, Bella Thorne and Debby Ryan have credited Miley as being a great person and somebody they look up too.

[Right Now]

Originally posted by pika

Are you that dumb and blind, sis? I listed all the shows that HM had an impact. You tried it with "performing arts" and "multiple talented kids" but their premises still stand as kids that want to make it in the business and ultimately, perform to millions, sing, dance, and overall be famous.

For you to get into "image" and "what they're most recognized for" is completely off topic. I don't care, and many others don't if Miley is seen as the bad girl. But if it helps you sleep at night, then cling to Hilary always being remembered as the boring plastic nice girl.

Then that doesn't apply to Hannah at all, as she's already famous in the pilot.

Originally posted by TerraLogan

Next time I go to the store, I'll take note of all the HM merchandise I see. And I'll attempt to find anything LM related.

Susan Duff & Hilary cut ties with Disney a LONG time ago. They stopped airing Lizzie on a regular basis in late 2005 to make room for Hannah. Once again you come with no knowledge to the table.

[minxie]

Originally posted by PopBoi

But you can't forget that Dignity >> any Miley album

*looks at Metacritic*



*looks at Dignity's 400k worldwide sales*

[Porygon2z]

Originally posted by TerraLogan

Really? This is nothing. You should have seen the Disney Girl rate thread.

The difference is that one was kind of warning free, this is not.
Guys, stop fighting over this issue again.

[Right Now]

Originally posted by PopBoi

But you can't forget that Dignity >> any Miley album

I see no lie here.

[Right Now]

Originally posted by kaleidoscope

*looks at Metacritic*



*looks at Dignity's 400k worldwide sales*

Dignity sold 430k in the US alone. Last I checked, Miley was at 330k.

[MWB]

Originally posted by PopBoi

I had no idea members here took Disney this seriously

They do.

[pika]

Originally posted by Right Now

Then that doesn't apply to Hannah at all, as she's already famous in the pilot.

What can't you get about Hannah Montana's premise being "Famous". A show doesn't have to be a carbon copy of HM to show it's been affected by it. The fact is, mostly all current Disney & Nick shows are about being FAMOUS. Hannah Montana was about being FAMOUS, thus showing her cultural impact. I've tried to make it as simple as I can for you, but it is clear you refuse to understand.

[Liana]

Originally posted by kaleidoscope

Thank you for supporting my theory that Hilary's only good for novelty value.

It's actually true. Miley was/is more successful & talented.

[pika]

Originally posted by Right Now

Dignity sold 430k in the US alone. Last I checked, Miley was at 330k.

I see you like your fav being local.

[Right Now]

Originally posted by pika

You're calling me out for not having receipts, when you still don't provide any. What do Disney and Nick girls referencing Hilary have ANYTHING to do with the cultural impact of Hannah Montana and Lizzie McGuire. You jump from point to point since you can't support the previous one you made. And as I distinctively remember, Bella Thorne and Debby Ryan have credited Miley as being a great person and somebody they look up too.

Because these girls were inspired by Lizzie, thereby reinforcing the impact that Lizzie had on the stars of today and their work.

I didn't jump from one point to another without support. I shot you DOWN and you failed to make a significant argument to warrant further discussion.

[PopBoi]

Originally posted by kaleidoscope

*looks at Metacritic*



*looks at Dignity's 400k worldwide sales*

*waits for you to realize Dignity has a highet Metacritic score than any of Mileys albums*



*looks at avatar*

[Right Now]

Originally posted by pika

I see you like your fav being local.

She sold nearly a million worldwide. Miley's fans have reached and claimed that CBT passed a million, but of course there are no receipts.

[minxie]

Originally posted by Right Now

Note how all the current Disney & Nick girls refer to Lizzie McGuire & Hilary as their childhood inspiration not Hannah & especially not Miley. Well unless you count Carly Jae Repson.

Chyna Anne McClain

Zendaya

Debby Ryan

The gerls are stans. But again, you tried.

[Right Now]

Originally posted by pika

What can't you get about Hannah Montana's premise being "Famous". A show doesn't have to be a carbon copy of HM to show it's been affected by it. The fact is, mostly all current Disney & Nick shows are about being FAMOUS. Hannah Montana was about being FAMOUS, thus showing her cultural impact. I've tried to make it as simple as I can for you, but it is clear you refuse to understand.

Still reaching for this point huh? The Lizzie McGuire Movie also had to do with Fame and greed, in particular on Paolo's part.

And this came nearly three years before Hannah premiered.

[minxie]

Originally posted by PopBoi

*waits for you to realize Dignity has a highet Metacritic score than any of Mileys albums*



*looks at avatar*

Breakout

Dignity

Yikes.

[PopBoi]

Sorry, I didn't realize that Hilary wrote up the Lizzie episodes and Miley wrote the Hannah episodes.

[pika]

Originally posted by Right Now

Because these girls were inspired by Lizzie, thereby reinforcing the impact that Lizzie had on the stars of today and their work.

I didn't jump from one point to another without support. I shot you DOWN and you failed to make a significant argument to warrant further discussion.

Brought up LOL, and brought up Disney girls being 'inspired' by Hilary. Who brought up those 2 points again, might I ask?

It still hasn't sunken into your brain that girls that reference Hilary as an 'inspiration' for them have NOTHING to do with Hannah Montana's cultural impact.

[PopBoi]

Originally posted by kaleidoscope

Breakout

Dignity

Yikes.

Not on Mileys metacritic page so I don't count it. As a non-stan for both girls I conclude that Dignity > Miley

[pika]

Originally posted by Right Now

She sold nearly a million worldwide. Miley's fans have reached and claimed that CBT passed a million, but of course there are no receipts.

CBT has sold 800k+. When did I ever come in here claiming it had sold 1 million? Again, jumping from one point to another.