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Discussion: Is Taylor Swift the queen of country music ?
Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Originally posted by Lovato
No, she's not the Queen. She's the princess of country POP.
Shania is the queen of country POP. Reba or Dolly are the queen of country.
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Mainstream Country, yes. But Reba is not really on the same level with Dolly imo. But the TRUE Queen of Country is June Carter-Cash & Loretta Lynn.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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Originally posted by Phoenix83
But the thread is about whether she's the queen of country. Artists like Dolly Parton, Shania Twain and Patsy Cline are/were internationally famous. Taylor really isn't in the same league I'm sorry.
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Dolly and Patsy are local lol. Taylor can't be in the same league when they came out years before her. She is still young and has plenty of time to get more global. You will just have to deal with the fact Taylor is slaying right now
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Member Since: 12/19/2009
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
Mainstream Country, yes. But Reba is not really on the same level with Dolly imo. But the TRUE Queen of Country is June Carter-Cash & Loretta Lynn.
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Johnny and June the King and Queen of country
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Member Since: 12/19/2009
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Originally posted by Cheers
Dolly and Patsy are local lol. Taylor can't be in the same league when they came out years before her. She is still young and has plenty of time to get more global. You will just have to deal with the fact Taylor is slaying right now
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Sis Patsy is local Dolly was the 1st country star to get a mainstream hit and she is the reason why Australia is such a big country market today she still tours there and sells out show after show
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Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
Johnny and June the King and Queen of country
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Can you give a room for King Hank Williams and the people who put the foundation for songwriting rules, Roy Acuff & Fred Rose?
And first families of Country music. Hopefully all of them are members of Opry.
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Member Since: 4/28/2012
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
Sis she don't need the UK when shee sells more albums in the U.S. than your fav sells globally (Adele, Gaga, Eminem excluded) plus she does very good in Japan, China, Norway, the Phillipines(***** on all your favs there), Canada, Australia, and New Zealand
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Who are you calling "sis", I'm a guy - do I sound really bitchy or something?
Selling in the US alone, I don't find particularly impressive, sorry (of course numbers are gonna be huge there because it's the biggest music market but I personally think international fame is more important).
Of course some country female stars have been able to become international icons. Ask anyone who Dolly Parton is and they will know. Taylor Swift, not so much.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
Sis Patsy is local Dolly was the 1st country star to get a mainstream hit and she is the reason why Australia is such a big country market today she still tours there and sells out show after show
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Yes, but the majority of her sales came from U.S, Canada, & Australia just like Taylor. So she's "local" too
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Member Since: 4/28/2012
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Originally posted by Cheers
Dolly and Patsy are local lol. Taylor can't be in the same league when they came out years before her. She is still young and has plenty of time to get more global. You will just have to deal with the fact Taylor is slaying right now
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Local my ass.
Taylor isn't slaying at all, she had a few big albums in the US and that's it, she will soon disappear and be forgotten.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by CountryFriedChick
Sis she don't need the UK when shee sells more albums in the U.S. than your fav sells globally ( Adele, Gaga, Eminem excluded) plus she does very good in Japan, China, Norway, the Phillipines(***** on all your favs there), Canada, Australia, and New Zealand
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Haha, because Adele has only had 2 eras.
After "23", let's talk.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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Originally posted by Phoenix83
Local my ass.
Taylor isn't slaying at all, she had a few big albums in the US and that's it, she will soon disappear and be forgotten.
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Lmao she's the biggest country artist right now. She's not disappearing anytime soon & will continue to outsell the worldwide girls
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Member Since: 12/19/2009
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Originally posted by Phoenix83
Who are you calling "sis", I'm a guy - do I sound really bitchy or something?
Selling in the US alone, I don't find particularly impressive, sorry (of course numbers are gonna be huge there because it's the biggest music market but I personally think international fame is more important).
Of course some country female stars have been able to become international icons. Ask anyone who Dolly Parton is and they will know. Taylor Swift, not so much.
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I call everyone sis I've noticed alot of people on ATRL do it so I started doing it its a bad habit I know. Did you look at my list though your just going off of the UK which is a huge market but ask anyone in the Phillipines or in Japan or China who Dolly Parton is and they might not know. Your going off of where you live but that doesn't represent the whole globe. Now is she a queen no I've gone over this a 1000 times on here but all I said was she isn't local and she actually is the 1st country artist to have any kind of huge success in Japan, China, the Phillipines.
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Member Since: 11/9/2011
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Originally posted by Phoenix83
Local my ass.
Taylor isn't slaying at all, she had a few big albums in the US and that's it, she will soon disappear and be forgotten.
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You've visited the future?
And my friend, as I said it before, don't rush things. She will be there one day. And comparing the achievements of her to the already legends is simply ridiculous. Different story if you try to compare their career timeline.
PS: Don't forget the biggest part of the world that is Asia on your map.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by Cheers
Dolly and Patsy are local lol. Taylor can't be in the same league when they came out years before her. She is still young and has plenty of time to get more global. You will just have to deal with the fact Taylor is slaying right now
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You clearly need to brush up on those country skills. I sure hope you're not one of those who just listens to Taylor Swift and calls that 'country'.
Dolly IS STILL extremely relevant worldwide, she's the most famous female country star EVER. Even if it's more for her boobs than her music for most people.
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Member Since: 12/19/2009
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Originally posted by Cheers
Yes, but the majority of her sales came from U.S, Canada, & Australia just like Taylor. So she's "local" too
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Kind of she also had some major success in the UK but it was nowhere on the level of Shania. I do think her film career and having Whitney cover I will Always Love You helped her become far more relevant worldwide than if she would have just made music but her artistry can not be denied
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Originally posted by Lovato
You clearly need to brush up on those country skills. I sure hope you're not one of those who just listens to Taylor Swift and calls that 'country'.
Dolly IS STILL extremely relevant worldwide, she's the most famous female country star EVER. Even if it's more for her boobs than her music for most people.
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Stop trying it. You stan for Demi Lovato
No one said Dolly is irrelevant. No one said she wasn't one of the most famous country stars. Her biggest sales come from U.S, Canada and Australia. That's "local". Stop saying worldwide when Asia, South America, Africa and parts of Europe don't really care for her or country.
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Can we all agree that it's all come back to the quality of the material? Sure the popularity and albums sold factored too. But there's more than that. Proven by Woody Guthrie. Let's all have a music history lesson from Wikipedia.
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Member Since: 9/18/2011
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Originally posted by thediscomonkey
Can we all agree that it's all come back to the quality of the material? Sure the popularity and albums sold factored too. But there's more than that. Proven by Woody Guthrie. Let's all have a music history lesson from Wikipedia.
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You better win "Indie **** Of The Year"
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She's the Princess.
She still needs a few more successful albums before we can consider her a queen.
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by Cheers
Stop trying it. You stan for Demi Lovato
No one said Dolly is irrelevant. No one said she wasn't one of the most famous country stars. Her biggest sales come from U.S, Canada and Australia. That's "local". Stop saying worldwide when Asia, South America, Africa and parts of Europe don't really care for her or country.
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That has absolutely ZERO relevance to this thread, honey. And so what if I do, she can sing 1000x better than your fav, so less of that off-topicness please.
Like I said, you clearly misinterpreted me. There are multiple factors. I didn't only specify her music, also her as a person. You ask anyone with a bit of music sense who's Dolly and anyone would know. She's a legend in her industry. That's like asking who Tupac or Eminem was/is in rap. Even if people don't KNOW or LISTEN to their music, they still have a vague idea who they were/are.
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