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ATRL: Is Gay Marriage A Human Right?
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Yes but you have now got to that point. You probably started with homosexual tendencies and continued with them, which is fine.
But I ask you, when and how did you start feeling this way? And did those moment mold your sexual preference today.
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Again, why does it matter? Interracial dating is a choice. Do you think being able to marry someone of a different race isn't a human right?
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Yes but you have now got to that point. You probably started with homosexual tendencies and continued with them, which is fine.
But I ask you, when and how did you start feeling this way? And did those moment mold your sexual preference today.
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What kind of therapist....
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Originally posted by Yourfavefan
What kelly debacle????
And what is the difference between civil union and marriage anyways? Are there any rights that people who are married have over people who have a civil union? Is it just a status?
I always thought marriage was more linked to the church which in the end I could care less about.
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A marriage and civil union do not offer the same benefits. A civil union grants you and your partner less benefits..
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OMG. Jeremy sis.
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Us gays shouldn't be allowed to marry, we'll only ruin this sacred act for the straight people. I mean, how will they get their drive-thru wedding in Vegas or their divorce after 55 hours knowing that us **** munchers can do the same
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Is Jeremy questioning someone about his homosexuality?
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This is part of my coming out letter.
I have often felt the proposition of homosexuality is questioned by a large proportion of people, based on a fairly limited understanding of the entire concept. Although I don’t agree with some of the traditional viewpoints prevalent today, in the past I have felt convicted by fairly narrow minded philosophies. I have found these viewpoints lack an understanding of individualistic identities and instead stereotypically group individuals collectively. For example gays are often displayed and viewed according to certain stereotypes; these attributes are often seen in the media and at times correlate to everyday life. As a result it is easy to associate us according to feminine or “weak” characteristics. Although I believe certain stereotypical behaviours become the norm in many situations, I don’t believe these factors are as prevalent down the line as you may think. Everyone is unique in their own way and outside of the attraction to males, I will continue to behave and act according to my values and upbringing.
In other words we are all individuals - and I feel most of the problems we have encountered are due to the media and stereotypical groupings. People tend to "become gay" "start acting gay" Just be yourself and live your life. There is no need to change yourself to fit expectations of the community.
I'm not saying I'm against gay marriage, but I understand the viewpoints against it. I think that's an understanding many people lack and as a result we simply jump on the human rights bandwagon.
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Quote:
Originally posted by JeremyALD
Yes but you have now got to that point. You probably started with homosexual tendencies and continued with them, which is fine.
But I ask you, when and how did you start feeling this way? And did those moment mold your sexual preference today.
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We have narrowed it down. You believe that a person is not born gay.
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Originally posted by Amaru
What kind of therapist....
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I CANT at people giving people therapy sessions over the internet about their sexuality and sexual preferences , what is this? Oprah? Dr.Phil?
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
This is part of my coming out letter.
I have often felt the proposition of homosexuality is questioned by a large proportion of people, based on a fairly limited understanding of the entire concept. Although I don’t agree with some of the traditional viewpoints prevalent today, in the past I have felt convicted by fairly narrow minded philosophies. I have found these viewpoints lack an understanding of individualistic identities and instead stereotypically group individuals collectively. For example gays are often displayed and viewed according to certain stereotypes; these attributes are often seen in the media and at times correlate to everyday life. As a result it is easy to associate us according to feminine or “weak” characteristics. Although I believe certain stereotypical behaviours become the norm in many situations, I don’t believe these factors are as prevalent down the line as you may think. Everyone is unique in their own way and outside of the attraction to males, I will continue to behave and act according to my values and upbringing.
In other words we are all individuals - and I feel most of the problems we have encountered are due to the media and stereotypical groupings. People tend to "become gay" "start acting gay" Just be yourself and live your life. There is no need to change yourself to fit expectations of the community.
I'm not saying I'm against gay marriage, but I understand the viewpoints against it. I think that's an understanding many people lack and as a result we simply jump on the human rights bandwagon.
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
This is part of my coming out letter.
I have often felt the proposition of homosexuality is questioned by a large proportion of people, based on a fairly limited understanding of the entire concept. Although I don’t agree with some of the traditional viewpoints prevalent today, in the past I have felt convicted by fairly narrow minded philosophies. I have found these viewpoints lack an understanding of individualistic identities and instead stereotypically group individuals collectively. For example gays are often displayed and viewed according to certain stereotypes; these attributes are often seen in the media and at times correlate to everyday life. As a result it is easy to associate us according to feminine or “weak” characteristics. Although I believe certain stereotypical behaviours become the norm in many situations, I don’t believe these factors are as prevalent down the line as you may think. Everyone is unique in their own way and outside of the attraction to males, I will continue to behave and act according to my values and upbringing.
In other words we are all individuals - and I feel most of the problems we have encountered are due to the media and stereotypical groupings. People tend to "become gay" "start acting gay" Just be yourself and live your life. There is no need to change yourself to fit expectations of the community.
I'm not saying I'm against gay marriage, but I understand the viewpoints against it. I think that's an understanding many people lack and as a result we simply jump on the human rights bandwagon.
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You came out with an essay? No glitter, or ponies or some gymnastic dance moves? Fail gay.
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Sounds to me like someone's projecting their own issues with their sexuality.
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
This is part of my coming out letter.
I have often felt the proposition of homosexuality is questioned by a large proportion of people, based on a fairly limited understanding of the entire concept. Although I don’t agree with some of the traditional viewpoints prevalent today, in the past I have felt convicted by fairly narrow minded philosophies. I have found these viewpoints lack an understanding of individualistic identities and instead stereotypically group individuals collectively. For example gays are often displayed and viewed according to certain stereotypes; these attributes are often seen in the media and at times correlate to everyday life. As a result it is easy to associate us according to feminine or “weak” characteristics. Although I believe certain stereotypical behaviours become the norm in many situations, I don’t believe these factors are as prevalent down the line as you may think. Everyone is unique in their own way and outside of the attraction to males, I will continue to behave and act according to my values and upbringing.
In other words we are all individuals - and I feel most of the problems we have encountered are due to the media and stereotypical groupings. People tend to "become gay" "start acting gay" Just be yourself and live your life. There is no need to change yourself to fit expectations of the community.
I'm not saying I'm against gay marriage, but I understand the viewpoints against it. I think that's an understanding many people lack and as a result we simply jump on the human rights bandwagon.
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I'd do that, except I'm not allowed to marry the person I love.
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
This is part of my coming out letter.
I have often felt the proposition of homosexuality is questioned by a large proportion of people, based on a fairly limited understanding of the entire concept. Although I don’t agree with some of the traditional viewpoints prevalent today, in the past I have felt convicted by fairly narrow minded philosophies. I have found these viewpoints lack an understanding of individualistic identities and instead stereotypically group individuals collectively. For example gays are often displayed and viewed according to certain stereotypes; these attributes are often seen in the media and at times correlate to everyday life. As a result it is easy to associate us according to feminine or “weak” characteristics. Although I believe certain stereotypical behaviours become the norm in many situations, I don’t believe these factors are as prevalent down the line as you may think. Everyone is unique in their own way and outside of the attraction to males, I will continue to behave and act according to my values and upbringing.
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What does this have to do with anything?
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In other words we are all individuals - and I feel most of the problems we have encountered are due to the media and stereotypical groupings. People tend to "become gay" "start acting gay" Just be yourself and live your life. There is no need to change yourself to fit expectations of the community.
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Seriously, what are you talking about now? I don't really think there's anyone here who thinks that homosexuality is a choice, besides you, really. You're doing too much right now, and it's not even on topic with YOUR own thread.
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I'm not saying I'm against gay marriage, but I understand the viewpoints against it. I think that's an understanding many people lack and as a result we simply jump on the human rights bandwagon.
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You're not making much sense. You say you're not against it, but here you are, arguing against it basically in this thread.
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Member Since: 5/28/2010
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Quote:
Originally posted by JeremyALD
This is part of my coming out letter.
I have often felt the proposition of homosexuality is questioned by a large proportion of people, based on a fairly limited understanding of the entire concept. Although I don’t agree with some of the traditional viewpoints prevalent today, in the past I have felt convicted by fairly narrow minded philosophies. I have found these viewpoints lack an understanding of individualistic identities and instead stereotypically group individuals collectively. For example gays are often displayed and viewed according to certain stereotypes; these attributes are often seen in the media and at times correlate to everyday life. As a result it is easy to associate us according to feminine or “weak” characteristics. Although I believe certain stereotypical behaviours become the norm in many situations, I don’t believe these factors are as prevalent down the line as you may think. Everyone is unique in their own way and outside of the attraction to males, I will continue to behave and act according to my values and upbringing.
In other words we are all individuals - and I feel most of the problems we have encountered are due to the media and stereotypical groupings. People tend to "become gay" "start acting gay" Just be yourself and live your life. There is no need to change yourself to fit expectations of the community.
I'm not saying I'm against gay marriage, but I understand the viewpoints against it. I think that's an understanding many people lack and as a result we simply jump on the human rights bandwagon.
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Which happen to be what? I haven't heard not one logical viewpoint against it.
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Marriage isnt a human right, however, equality is.
Edit: Not to be offensive but, although well written, your coming out letter comes off as pretentious and generic. Its your coming out letter, not your dissertation....
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Dead at Jeremy somehow connecting "be yourself and fight stereotypes" to "we shouldn't fight for gay marriage."
What kinda logical fallacy?
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Since when has this become a personal attack?
Another reason why my logic in the OP is pretty accurate.
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It is a gay right.
Gays are human, so...
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