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ATRL: Has Katy Perry's Success This Era Been Well Deserved?
Member Since: 2/16/2010
Posts: 69,775
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
I'm not going to get a WP. But she's hardly a diamond of the industry.
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Well, some of the looks she has done for BTW could seen as unattractive, but she's made her weird outfits work because that's part of her public image & she calls it art, & people agree/believe it.
Plus, even with all that, she's still a skinny popgirl.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
Posts: 1,720
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Katy has been promoting, working hard, doing shady thing she has to to make this era succeed. Videos, performances, tours...everything has been GREAT. I am no huge fan, but I give her lots of respect for how she has worked this era.
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Member Since: 5/5/2011
Posts: 16,846
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I would say 80% of the success was well deserved. The whole era was flawless until the last two singles where she started to throw remixes and adding the discounts.
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
Posts: 2,676
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
Well, some of the looks she has done for BTW could seen as unattractive, but she's made her weird outfits work because that's part of her public image & she calls it art, & people agree/believe it.
Plus, even with all that, she's still a skinny popgirl.
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The thing that puts Gaga above Perry for me is she's different. She's tried a completely different image, she produces a lot of her work, performances, videos, songs ect. Also she seems more real than Katy Perry. Gaga is not a muppet, she strives for her own vision.
Perry on the other hand, lets people manipulate her to fit a certain image.
Example I Kissed A Girl. The beginning of her career was extremely forced and she has continued to stay that way.
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Member Since: 9/2/2011
Posts: 92
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Originally posted by iLukey
and yet with the little promo she has done to TOTGA as you are saying she is still in the Top 10 with the song (and not talking about the remix).
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Let's not forget how Capitol discounted TOTGA to push it up into the Top 10...and even then it still didn't/hasn't snatched the #1 spot.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
Posts: 18,282
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Originally posted by KevinKDC
Kelly still has more teenage fans then adults. She was called the "Girl next door" for a long time.
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WAS.
Katy is soon going to break P!nk's and Nickleback's record for most #1s on the Adult Pop songs chart. And Katy has a much shorter career than those two.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
Posts: 69,775
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Originally posted by KevinKDC
Kelly still has more teenage fans then adults. She was called the "Girl next door" for a long time.
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I just think with someone with Kelly, compared to Katy, the image isn't as important.
I hate that superficialty is so prominent in pop. I'm not talking pop like crossover acts like Taylor, Lady A, Adele, etc.
I mean like, straight up pop/dance music. Like Britney, Ke$ha, Katy, Rihanna, GaGa's pop.
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Member Since: 11/15/2011
Posts: 13,901
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Originally posted by WoozyFloozy
I don't know how good she is at giving head, so maybe it is or maybe it isn't. I'll get back to you when I become a music producer.
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that is so used and so old. gurl bye
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
Posts: 6,062
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
The thing that puts Gaga above Perry for me is she's different. She's tried a completely different image, she produces a lot of her work, performances, videos, songs ect. Also she seems more real than Katy Perry. Gaga is not a muppet, she strives for her own vision.
Perry on the other hand, lets people manipulate her to fit a certain image.
Example I Kissed A Girl. The beginning of her career was extremely forced and she has continued to stay that way.
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Do you work for her management team? Then how would you know? Yeah that's what I thought.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 11/1/2010
Posts: 26,750
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You people do way too much. She had good songs, got hits, became more popular. End of.
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Member Since: 6/18/2011
Posts: 4,229
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she worked his ass off to get the kind of success she's having now so yeah, she deserves it tbh
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Member Since: 8/24/2011
Posts: 1,641
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
Ask Kelly Clarkson...
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So Katy is more succesful then Kelly because she is thin and Kelly is fat ?
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Member Since: 9/3/2011
Posts: 6,062
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Originally posted by FxckAlejandro
Let's not forget how Capitol discounted TOTGA to push it up into the Top 10...and even then it still didn't/hasn't snatched the #1 spot.
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It was discounted after it was in the top 10... So gurl bye.
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
Posts: 18,282
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Originally posted by JeremyALD
The thing that puts Gaga above Perry for me is she's different. She's tried a completely different image, she produces a lot of her work, performances, videos, songs ect. Also she seems more real than Katy Perry. Gaga is not a muppet, she strives for her own vision.
Perry on the other hand, lets people manipulate her to fit a certain image.
Example I Kissed A Girl. The beginning of her career was extremely forced and she has continued to stay that way.
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Are you serious?
Her label was AGAINST I Kissed A Girl. Katy fought for it to be on the album and a single. She did the same for Peacock. She clearly won.
Plus... Katy has changed her image... Going from Hot N Cold to TOY, that's not a drastic change?
She went from gosspel music to OOTB which was more pop rock, then TD which is more electro pop.
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
Posts: 19,703
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Originally posted by FxckAlejandro
Let's not forget how Capitol discounted TOTGA to push it up into the Top 10...and even then it still didn't/hasn't snatched the #1 spot.
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I'm dying
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Member Since: 8/29/2011
Posts: 18,282
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Originally posted by FxckAlejandro
Let's not forget how Capitol discounted TOTGA to push it up into the Top 10...and even then it still didn't/hasn't snatched the #1 spot.
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It went #9 on the Hot 100 and #4 on Itunes before the discount.
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Member Since: 9/20/2011
Posts: 14,852
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Originally posted by InLoveWithKaty
she worked his ass off to get the kind of success she's having now so yeah, she deserves it tbh
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Whose ass are you talking about? Russell's?
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Member Since: 3/15/2011
Posts: 2,676
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
Are you serious?
Her label was AGAINST I Kissed A Girl. Katy fought for it to be on the album and a single. She did the same for Peacock. She clearly won.
Plus... Katy has changed her image... Going from Hot N Cold to TOY, that's not a drastic change?
She went from gosspel music to OOTB which was more pop rock, then TD which is more electro pop.
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How can you say moving from GOSPEL music to Dirty Pop music is not forced?
She clearly wanted to become famous and she has worked with everyone to achieve that dream.
Does that mean she deserves to be famous? I guess she has the motivation, but I think she lacks the creativity.
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Member Since: 9/2/2011
Posts: 92
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Originally posted by Katy V.!
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Lmfao i'm a Gaga stan, I don't know that much about KP but I know enough...but still, this shows how desperate she is for that #1.
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Member Since: 12/15/2008
Posts: 38,248
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Originally posted by FxckAlejandro
Let's not forget how Capitol discounted TOTGA to push it up into the Top 10...and even then it still didn't/hasn't snatched the #1 spot.
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WHAT?
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